2015 - What Can We Expect?

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Broken_Shoelace said:
Milos is not winning a slam.

You never know, somebody's back might break or their legs fall off in a final... :popcorn
 

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I hope the best health for every player, then we could see their best game and the Tour will be more enjoyable :clap
Congrats to Ferrer and Federer for their wins!
 

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Kieran said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
Milos is not winning a slam.

You never know, somebody's back might break or their legs fall off in a final... :popcorn

That will not be needed. once again, I am expecting Milos to peak 2-3 years from now, when he will be 26-27. By then, trust me, if Roger will be still playing, he will not be as fresh as daisy, especially in slams, where already struggles when stretched to 5 sets.
 

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I'm not sure if the "anti Milos" contingent watched his match against Roger in the final yesterday. He is definitely improving--particularly with his movement and backhand. Let's revisit at the end of 2015, and we'll see what impact the "new guard" has on Slams and other major tournies throughout the year.
 

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lacatch said:
I'm not sure if the "anti Milos" contingent watched his match against Roger in the final yesterday. He is definitely improving--particularly with his movement and backhand. Let's revisit at the end of 2015, and we'll see what impact the "new guard" has on Slams and other major tournies throughout the year.

Kieran did not, he said so. He just is very opinionated, as usual;)
But he was already surprised once, last summer when Milos got into the SF at SW19, because he did not expected that to happen either.
Milos is younger than Kei with exactly one year. So I will be tracking his results against what Kei did this year.
One thing is already in place, Milos feels confident about his first slam the AO, as he said yesterday.
 

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Milos is definitely improving. Let me clear about that part at least. He's come a long way since his days of walking like a zombie, being outmaneuvered and somehow, outpowered from the baseline. He's playing with power now and has improved his movement. I still don't think this gets him a slam any time soon.
 

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herios said:
lacatch said:
I'm not sure if the "anti Milos" contingent watched his match against Roger in the final yesterday. He is definitely improving--particularly with his movement and backhand. Let's revisit at the end of 2015, and we'll see what impact the "new guard" has on Slams and other major tournies throughout the year.

Kieran did not, he said so. He just is very opinionated, as usual;)
But he was already surprised once, last summer when Milos got into the SF at SW19, because he did not expected that to happen either.

You're kidding, right? I've got better things to do on Sunday morning that watch Milos against federer. ;)

And though I was surprised he reached the Wimbledon semi, I would also expect over his career he might reach a slam semi, or final, like Berdych. I wasn't surprised by how easily he was handled once he got there. Yes, he seems to have improved (not surprised by this) but I still would expect him to go down in straights in a slam semi to Roger this year, and Federer is almost as old as me...
 

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The current crop of stars are just "head-cases!" They can't finish with all the talent in the world and a support system that makes "Team Navratilova" look modest in comparison! :angel: :nono :dodgy:
 

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Kieran said:
And though I was surprised he reached the Wimbledon semi, I would also expect over his career he might reach a slam semi, or final, like Berdych.

He's going to be better than Berdych. It's actually worth watching the Federer match, even the highlights do some justice. There *is* something there, and unlike Jerzy he has a certain consistency about him (read he doesn't just overhit and then look good for one match and then terrible for others) which leads me to believe that he can replicate that level.

He will be dangerous at Wimbledon/USO. And yes he absolutely can beat the likes of a Roger and Rafa in a slam at this stage in their careers. He has a bit of the Del Potro problem though, which is that he might have to face several players in a row that are bad matchups for him (so eg Nishikori, Murray, Novak would be too much for him)
 

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First at all I have to say that English is not my first language so I hope that all of you have can forgive my mistakes, thans in advance :huh:
I can't say that the youngest ones are bad players, on the contrary they are pretty good but without the great quality of the Big Four like Rafa, Roger, Muzz and Novak. They are still far to be so good, maybe they can beat them in one match but later.....difficult to do it again as we can see.
 

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Carol35 said:
First at all I have to say that English is not my first language so I hope that all of you have can forgive my mistakes, thans in advance :huh:
I can't say that the youngest ones are bad players, on the contrary they are pretty good but without the great quality of the Big Four like Rafa, Roger, Muzz and Novak. They are still far to be so good, maybe they can beat them in one match but later.....difficult to do it again as we can see.

Welcome to the forum Carol! You are not the only person who speaks English as a second language, not to mention it's my first and I am constantly making mistakes :s
 

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Carol35 said:
First at all I have to say that English is not my first language so I hope that all of you have can forgive my mistakes, thans in advance :huh:
I can't say that the youngest ones are bad players, on the contrary they are pretty good but without the great quality of the Big Four like Rafa, Roger, Muzz and Novak. They are still far to be so good, maybe they can beat them in one match but later.....difficult to do it again as we can see.

Right on the money! It's quite common for an odd player going into a tournament to be "in the zone," who's able to take out a top player! Happens, but they can rarely follow it up; Wawrinka the exception at AO last season taking out Nole in quarters and overcoming the act of a hobbled Nadal in the final! In my day a huge upset was Vincent Van Patton taking out John McEnroe in the Seiko tourney from '78 or' '79! He was in the zone and went through a # of top players including John, but Borg brought him back to Earth in a straight set final IIRC! It was little more than a glorified exhibition tourney, not part of the ATP played in Japan if you never heard of it! Patton was just a "B" actor more associated to being the boy toy of Farrah Fawcett and being involved with Int'l Poker; playing and commentating!
 

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Fiero425 said:
Carol35 said:
First at all I have to say that English is not my first language so I hope that all of you have can forgive my mistakes, thans in advance :huh:
I can't say that the youngest ones are bad players, on the contrary they are pretty good but without the great quality of the Big Four like Rafa, Roger, Muzz and Novak. They are still far to be so good, maybe they can beat them in one match but later.....difficult to do it again as we can see.

Right on the money! It's quite common for an odd player going into a tournament to be in the zone, who's able to take out a top player! Happens, but they can rarely follow it up; Wawrinka the exception at AO last season taking out Nole in quarters and overcoming the act of a hobbled Nadal in the final! In my day a huge upset was Vincent Van Patton taking out John McEnroe in the Seiko tourney from '78 or' '79! He was in the zone and went through a # of top players including John, but Borg brought him back to Earth in straight sets IIRC! It was little more than a glorified exhibition tourney not part of the ATP played in Japan if you never heard of it!

Yep, that is exactly what usually happens, one day they are in heaven, next day back to Earth:mad:
 

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Riotbeard said:
Carol35 said:
First at all I have to say that English is not my first language so I hope that all of you have can forgive my mistakes, thans in advance :huh:
I can't say that the youngest ones are bad players, on the contrary they are pretty good but without the great quality of the Big Four like Rafa, Roger, Muzz and Novak. They are still far to be so good, maybe they can beat them in one match but later.....difficult to do it again as we can see.

Welcome to the forum Carol! You are not the only person who speaks English as a second language, not to mention it's my first and I am constantly making mistakes :s

After to read your comment I'm feeling much better;)
Thanks so much for the welcome!
 

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Kieran said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
Milos is not winning a slam.

You never know, somebody's back might break or their legs fall off in a final... :popcorn



You should just be thankful that Nadal was even in the final. Dimitrov gifted the set points in the third against Nadal. That was Dimitrov's match to win.
 

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calitennis127 said:
Kieran said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
Milos is not winning a slam.

You never know, somebody's back might break or their legs fall off in a final... :popcorn



You should just be thankful that Nadal was even in the final. Dimitrov gifted the set points in the third against Nadal. That was Dimitrov's match to win.

Write this out hundred times until it sticks: there's nobody has a record against Nadal that means that any match between them is theirs to win.

Grigor done well, and I was impressed with him that day, and especially his reaction to defeat, and I've been steadily getting more and more unimpressed with him ever since, right up until the very last match he played...
 

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Fiero425 said:
The current crop of stars are just "head-cases!" They can't finish with all the talent in the world and a support system that makes "Team Navratilova" look modest in comparison! :angel: :nono :dodgy:

Where I disagree is the comment "with all the talent in the world"... compared to the generation above, I haven't seen anyone on the same page when it comes to talent.
 

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Kieran said:
calitennis127 said:
Kieran said:
You never know, somebody's back might break or their legs fall off in a final... :popcorn



You should just be thankful that Nadal was even in the final. Dimitrov gifted the set points in the third against Nadal. That was Dimitrov's match to win.

Write this out hundred times until it sticks: there's nobody has a record against Nadal that means that any match between them is theirs to win.

Grigor done well, and I was impressed with him that day, and especially his reaction to defeat, and I've been steadily getting more and more unimpressed with him ever since, right up until the very last match he played...

I disagree with you. Grigor had been getting better all the way the first half of last season, but after Wimbledon he started to be stagnating and having disappointing losses.
And here in Brisbane, he did not look convincing either by just looking at the score he has lost to Roger.
 
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Dimitrov again stands a serious chance at Wimbledon. He came very close to beating Djokovic there in 2014. I don't foresee much for Cilic. Wawrinka will either do great at the AO or have an average season; it all comes down to recreating what he had before. Federer will reach the Wimbledon final again. I'm giving Djokovic 50% at RG.