2015 U.S. Open (Women)

[Kirijax]

So, I understand Plishkova has won the USO Series, which is ridiculous considering she didn't beat anyone in the top 50 during the series, nor did she win a tournament, just one final (Stanford).

Supposedly, she got double points for playing 4 tournaments.

This pretty much explains how flawed and ridiculous this Series thing-a-majig is.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Especially with that weak performance she gave after she got to the necessary round.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

So, I understand Plishkova has won the USO Series, which is ridiculous considering she didn't beat anyone in the top 50 during the series, nor did she win a tournament, just one final (Stanford).

Supposedly, she got double points for playing 4 tournaments.

This pretty much explains how flawed and ridiculous this Series thing-a-majig is.

Well, depends on how you look at it. After all they are trying to promote the 4 tourneys of the series. They know most will play in Toronto and Cincy. So, if they say points triple if you play one more, then more players are going to be tempted to play in one of the two other lowly tourneys.
So, it is not flawed and it is working as per design. Not to mention, it saves a lot of money for the sponsor. :idea:

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Tignor jinxes Serena . :snicker But, Serena may be Tignor Proof. :exclamation:

 

[sk310]

I mean winning the "Us Open Series" isn't that big of a deal. You are hard pressed to get people to play New Haven and you know there's going to be a lot of people who drop out of Stanford and Washington.

I think the amount of drop outs in Washington and Stanford was disheartening for organizers considering you're trying to sell tickets based on people showing up.

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

Tignor jinxes Serena . :snicker But, Serena may be Tignor Proof. :exclamation:

His picks aside from Serena and Halep were weird.

 

[tossip]

Tignor might try to jinx but thats not going to happen...#22
there is no stopping the Serena train..
just a gut feeling..
after this Open Serena status will shoot through the roof..eclipsing a lot of players and former players.
lots of $$$$$ ..

 

[Front242]

Personally I think she'll succumb to the pressure with an unexpected (or maybe it's actually expected given the pressure) loss.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Tignor jinxes Serena . :snicker But, Serena may be Tignor Proof. :exclamation:

His picks aside from Serena and Halep were weird.

No, he is not going out on a limb.

Maria is surely doubtful to make it considering she was MIA during warm-up and reportedly having some injuries. Caro is not doing great this summer and may not reach SF. Same with Kvitova due to her mono. Ana is not a model of consistency.

Svitolina being a up and comer might make it. Sam Stosur is more of going out on a limb.
Of course, she has had past success here and has a great kick serve that most girls hate to face.
But, she does not have grey matter and she is not doing great this summer. But, it could happen though.

In short, Tignor is not as wild as you think.

 

[Front242]

She's had too many poor starts this year, going on to barely win in 3rd sets. Can't keep doing that forever.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

She's had too many poor starts this year, going on to barely win in 3rd sets. Can't keep doing that forever.

Ya, but she does not have to keep doing that forever. Needs to do it for seven more matches. That is it.

 

[tossip]

Personally I think she'll succumb to the pressure with an unexpected (or maybe it's actually expected given the pressure) loss.

I think she had pressure at Roland Garros and Wimbledon...she has won the Open and knows how to play against those swirling winds...most players are intimidated by the size of the Ashe arena and cannot play against the wind.
lets visit this thread after the Open..

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

I don't know like I said sure she has pressure, but there will be an equal amount on the girls to close her out. The player that denies her if it is to happen will be quite well known for stopping the achievement. Don't think they won't know it either and feel the moment. Closing Serena out isn't easy period!

 

[tossip]

once she gets into the second week its a wrap...I hope Richard shows up for this momentous event..he dreamt this dream.

 

[Kirijax]

After she wins the Calendar Slam, people will now start talking about whether she can pass Graf and then finally Court's record of 24 Slams. But nothing will ever even compare to the pressure she has in this tournament. After she wins this, it will be smooth sailing to the all-time record.

 

[Calvy]

So, I understand Plishkova has won the USO Series, which is ridiculous considering she didn't beat anyone in the top 50 during the series, nor did she win a tournament, just one final (Stanford).

Supposedly, she got double points for playing 4 tournaments.

This pretty much explains how flawed and ridiculous this Series thing-a-majig is.

Well, depends on how you look at it. After all they are trying to promote the 4 tourneys of the series. They know most will play in Toronto and Cincy. So, if they say points triple if you play one more, then more players are going to be tempted to play in one of the two other lowly tourneys.
So, it is not flawed and it is working as per design. Not to mention, it saves a lot of money for the sponsor. :idea:

Sorry, the whole concept is flawed. You want a player to play the four tournaments leading up to the US Open, effectively meaning, if a player participants in the four lead up tournies, they will actually be playing five straight tournament when you factor in the Open.

It's pretty much a guarantee that any player wouldn't be effective come Open time due to exhaustion, unless those players loses early in every tournament.

Second, it's rewarding quantity over quality. Plishkova results are an example of that.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

This pretty much explains how flawed and ridiculous this Series thing-a-majig is.

Well, depends on how you look at it. After all they are trying to promote the 4 tourneys of the series. They know most will play in Toronto and Cincy. So, if they say points triple if you play one more, then more players are going to be tempted to play in one of the two other lowly tourneys.
So, it is not flawed and it is working as per design. Not to mention, it saves a lot of money for the sponsor. :idea:

Sorry, the whole concept is flawed. You want a player to play the four tournaments leading up to the US Open, effectively meaning, if a player participants in the four lead up tournies, they will actually be playing five straight tournament when you factor in the Open.

It's pretty much a guarantee that any player wouldn't be effective come Open time due to exhaustion, unless those players loses early in every tournament.

Second, it's rewarding quantity over quality. Plishkova results are an example of that.

I don't want anybody to do anything. I am just explaining the motivation behind the scheme.
BTW, the points are doubled as long as one earns points from three different tournaments, they don't have to play in all four for the doubling to occur.

For example, last year Serena played in Stanford, Montreal and Cincy. She still did fine at USO.
She was indeed effective at USO and did not show any exhaustion. This year she choose not to do as she wanted to save herself for the more important task of finishing CGS. I fully understand her choice and support it.

 

[special700]

After she wins the Calendar Slam, people will now start talking about whether she can pass Graf and then finally Court's record of 24 Slams. But nothing will ever even compare to the pressure she has in this tournament. After she wins this, it will be smooth sailing to the all-time record.

en

It's amazing to me that they always move the pole when it comes to Serena. No one ever really mentioned Court when speaking about Serena, until they see how close she is to Graf's slams. Now if she's lucky to win her 22 major they'll be moving the pole again to see if she can beat court. Never cease to amaze me with these people when it comes to Serena.

 

[Kirijax]

After she wins the Calendar Slam, people will now start talking about whether she can pass Graf and then finally Court's record of 24 Slams. But nothing will ever even compare to the pressure she has in this tournament. After she wins this, it will be smooth sailing to the all-time record.

en

It's amazing to me that they always move the pole when it comes to Serena. No one ever really mentioned Court when speaking about Serena, until they see how close she is to Graf's slams. Now if she's lucky to win her 22 major they'll be moving the pole again to see if she can beat court. Never cease to amaze me with these people when it comes to Serena.

That's not just for Serena. Anyone who starts piling up Slams will be compared with the next person on the totem pole. People will talk about whether that player will reach the next person on the list. Nobody is disputing that Serena is one of the, if not THE greatest player ever. Who are "these people"? lol

 

[Calvy]

Well, depends on how you look at it. After all they are trying to promote the 4 tourneys of the series. They know most will play in Toronto and Cincy. So, if they say points triple if you play one more, then more players are going to be tempted to play in one of the two other lowly tourneys.
So, it is not flawed and it is working as per design. Not to mention, it saves a lot of money for the sponsor. :idea:

Sorry, the whole concept is flawed. You want a player to play the four tournaments leading up to the US Open, effectively meaning, if a player participants in the four lead up tournies, they will actually be playing five straight tournament when you factor in the Open.

It's pretty much a guarantee that any player wouldn't be effective come Open time due to exhaustion, unless those players loses early in every tournament.

Second, it's rewarding quantity over quality. Plishkova results are an example of that.

I don't want anybody to do anything. I am just explaining the motivation behind the scheme.
BTW, the points are doubled as long as one earns points from three different tournaments, they don't have to play in all four for the doubling to occur.

For example, last year Serena played in Stanford, Montreal and Cincy. She still did fine at USO.
She was indeed effective at USO and did not show any exhaustion. This year she choose not to do as she wanted to save herself for the more important task of finishing CGS. I fully understand her choice and support it.

Serena played three events last year, I mentioned playing four straight events, which is actually five if you include the USO, which is exactly what Plishkova did and will be doing. Additionally, Serena had a week off between Cincinnati and New York, Plishkova does not.

Fact is, the head of the US Open series should discourage such a schedule, especially leading up to a slam, and not trying to entice with potential overplaying with a bonus for playing too many events.