2015 U.S. Open Final: Djokovic v. Federer

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Denisovich said:
Watching the rest of the final now (went to bed end of the second set).

Some really stunning clutch play by Djokovic at the end of the third set. Wow.

He was catching it from all sides; Federer and that drunkin' crowd! It got ugly in the crunch, but Nole weathered the storm! I've been in that position on someone else's "home court," and fans can turn into barbarians! :angel::dodgy: :p
 

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Fiero425 said:
Denisovich said:
Watching the rest of the final now (went to bed end of the second set).

Some really stunning clutch play by Djokovic at the end of the third set. Wow.

He was catching it from all sides; Federer and that drunkin' crowd! It got ugly in the crunch, but Nole weathered the storm! I've been in that position on someone else's "home court," and fans can turn into barbarians! :angel::dodgy:
It got rough out there...I think the ump should have been forceful. Actually stopping play and having a talk with those fans. Really shows how Nole has grown over the years...in the past he would have crumbled emotionally from all that hate. Still bothers him...but he can control his feelings now
 

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golds girl said:
Fiero425 said:
Denisovich said:
Watching the rest of the final now (went to bed end of the second set).

Some really stunning clutch play by Djokovic at the end of the third set. Wow.

He was catching it from all sides; Federer and that drunkin' crowd! It got ugly in the crunch, but Nole weathered the storm! I've been in that position on someone else's "home court," and fans can turn into barbarians! :angel::dodgy:
It got rough out there...I think the ump should have been forceful. Actually stopping play and having a talk with those fans. Really shows how Nole has grown over the years...in the past he would have crumbled emotionally from all that hate. Still bothers him...but he can control his feelings now

Sometimes I make a comment just moments before John and it was about this ump! Firstly, a woman for a men's final! She did a great job, was bold in overturning some calls and was 7 for 7 in challenges against the way she saw it! There was little she could do with those animals; 'cept implementing a whip and a chair! This was rowdier than I can ever remember it; even from the longest day in '84! They were giving Martina the business after beating Chris in final after final going back 13 matches! They were totaling on Chris' side and influenced the proceedings for all 3 sets!
 

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nehmeth said:
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Can't really think of anyone else I'd like to have won except maybe Tommy Haas...

:( :cover Tommy Haas, I thought he would have won a slam, until that initial injury to his shoulder when he was #2 in the world... and then all the other things that happened to him subsequently.

and nalbandian. shame his epic play didn't result in a major or two..before injury, poor diet, poor training discipline and poor attitude and large pendulous breasts made him go a bit rubbishy after 2006.
 

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Novak served like we used to marvel at Roger for doing, especially when down break points. He could easily have been broken in the fourth set at the end, but--and this is key--he is the best in those moments and has been for two of the last three or four years. He was money last night--Federer got tight in those moments, whereas he did not as much seven or even six years ago. Novak is the man now, as he has been most of the last two years.
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg said:
nehmeth said:
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Can't really think of anyone else I'd like to have won except maybe Tommy Haas...

:( :cover Tommy Haas, I thought he would have won a slam, until that initial injury to his shoulder when he was #2 in the world... and then all the other things that happened to him subsequently.

and nalbandian. shame his epic play didn't result in a major or two..before injury, poor diet, poor training discipline and poor attitude and large pendulous breasts made him go a bit rubbishy after 2006.

Over the years, there have been plenty of guys with the ability to win a major; problem has always been someone better stopping them like this most consistent of "Big 4" in memory! One way to gain that major is to actually beat the best players; done by Stich in '91 outplaying both Edberg and Becker at Wimbledon! Another impressive one was Orantes in '75 at the USO; coming back to beat Vilas in 5 late night, then came back and blitzed Connors in the final! There are the upsets along the way that help out where you only have to play a subpar player in the final like Krajicek in '96 at Wimbledon! He beat Sampras along the way, but the final was anti-climatic after Mal Washington overcame a huge deficit to Todd Martin in the semis! Just OTTH! These kinds of things hasn't happened too often; Delpo at USO and Murray at Wimbledon taking out the top players seeded at the time! So far no odd GS winners like Korda or Johansson at AO! :cover :nono :angel: :dodgy:
 

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Billie can celebrate, his champ played great
 

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isabelle said:
Billie can celebrate, her champ played great

Aw, Isabelle, thank you. Nole did indeed do very well, a lot was against him, but he survived.:)

And believe it or not I was crying more for Flavia than Nole. What a moment for her, her family, team, Fabio,, who flew back from Europe to witness his sweetheart's biggest moment in her career. A magical USO all around.:clap
 

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Billie said:
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Billie can celebrate, her champ played great

Aw, Isabelle, thank you. Nole did indeed do very well, a lot was against him, but he survived.:)

And believe it or not I was crying more for Flavia than Nole. What a moment for her, her family, team, Fabio,, who flew back from Europe to witness his sweetheart's biggest moment in her career. A magical USO all around.:clap

Sorry for his...I know you're her....Flavia'll marry the Fog in June 2016, happy fot the both of them
 

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Massive win for the Djoker. The USO was a kind of cursed slam for him having lost in 4 finals there already. Should be good practice for turning around the curse of the FO. I'm liking his chances to complete the career slam next year.
 

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Why So Serious? said:
Massive win for the Djoker. The USO was a kind of cursed slam for him having lost in 4 finals there already. Should be good practice for turning around the curse of the FO. I'm liking his chances to complete the career slam next year.
I think there's a good chance you're right. And the amazing thing to keep in mind is that Novak wasn't at his best (serve definitely wasn't) and still beat a very game, "on" for the most part, Federer. And I'm also a Fed fan, but have to tell it like it is :)
 

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lacatch said:
Why So Serious? said:
Massive win for the Djoker. The USO was a kind of cursed slam for him having lost in 4 finals there already. Should be good practice for turning around the curse of the FO. I'm liking his chances to complete the career slam next year.
I think there's a good chance you're right. And the amazing thing to keep in mind is that Novak wasn't at his best (serve definitely wasn't) and still beat a very game, "on" for the most part, Federer. And I'm also a Fed fan, but have to tell it like it is :)

:clap He definitely was not at his best. The crowd and his history at the USO made that impossible. If it wasn't for those things we would probably have seen a routine straight-set win. It was incredible what Djokovic did under the circumstances. Absolutely heroic stuff.
 

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lacatch said:
Why So Serious? said:
Massive win for the Djoker. The USO was a kind of cursed slam for him having lost in 4 finals there already. Should be good practice for turning around the curse of the FO. I'm liking his chances to complete the career slam next year.
I think there's a good chance you're right. And the amazing thing to keep in mind is that Novak wasn't at his best (serve definitely wasn't) and still beat a very game, "on" for the most part, Federer. And I'm also a Fed fan, but have to tell it like it is :)

A "game" Federer who was 4-23 on BP's and could barely get a forehand over the net. :cover
 

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lacatch said:
Why So Serious? said:
Massive win for the Djoker. The USO was a kind of cursed slam for him having lost in 4 finals there already. Should be good practice for turning around the curse of the FO. I'm liking his chances to complete the career slam next year.
I think there's a good chance you're right. And the amazing thing to keep in mind is that Novak wasn't at his best (serve definitely wasn't) and still beat a very game, "on" for the most part, Federer. And I'm also a Fed fan, but have to tell it like it is :)

A "game" Federer who was 4-23 on BP's and could barely get a forehand over the net. :cover

:lolz: I wonder why that was? Maybe because he choked unbelievably hard against a player who didn't fold like a cheap tent, like the rest of Federer's opponents? It's kinda funny that Federer who had the entire stadium on his side could only muster 4/23 break points. It's not gonna get any easier for him than that. I'd hate to see what happens to him when the crowd tries to intimidate him or is at least neutral. I'd also hate to see what happens if they meet on a slower slam surface like the AO or FO. It's not gonna pretty for Federer. It's only gonna get uglier from here on.
 

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Roger will be nowhere to be found at AO or RG from here on out. The question is whether or not he shows up big at Wimbledon or USO going forward. He was a major disappointment this year, especially at the slams. Also, you tend to overrate the crowd's impact on the match and the crowd has been heavily in Roger's favor for the better part of a decade, that won't change.
 

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DarthFed said:
lacatch said:
Why So Serious? said:
Massive win for the Djoker. The USO was a kind of cursed slam for him having lost in 4 finals there already. Should be good practice for turning around the curse of the FO. I'm liking his chances to complete the career slam next year.
I think there's a good chance you're right. And the amazing thing to keep in mind is that Novak wasn't at his best (serve definitely wasn't) and still beat a very game, "on" for the most part, Federer. And I'm also a Fed fan, but have to tell it like it is :)

A "game" Federer who was 4-23 on BP's and could barely get a forehand over the net. :cover
That Federer was only 4-23 WAS why he didn't do better/win the match, as he himself said in his presser after the match. What he DIDN'T say was that, in many of those cases, Djokovic DID NOT ALLOW him to win many of those break points through clutch play and steely resolve (I'm NOT counting the overhit forehand which would have enabled Fed to break for the third set lol).
 

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DarthFed said:
Roger will be nowhere to be found at AO or RG from here on out. The question is whether or not he shows up big at any GS going forward. He was a major disappointment this year, especially at the slams. Also, you tend to overrate the crowd's impact on the match and the crowd has been heavily in Roger's favor for the better part of a decade, that won't change.

You are right that I overrate the crowd's impact in the sense that they only made Djokovic want to win more, but there was no doubt whatsoever that it affected him. Any Djokovic fan could see that. He looked very close to choking in the third and fourth sets but somehow held on. Take Wimbledon where the crowd wasn't such hooligans and Djokovic put in a much cleaner performance. But of course, there was also his final history at the USO in the back of his mind. Overall it was an extremely impressive win under the conditions and I plan on writing another blog post about it later today.

I just can't say enough good things about this win. It was probably the single most impressive performance I have ever seen by anyone, and I have watched tennis for a long time.

Oh and I don't agree at all that Federer was a major disappointment this year. Especially at the slams where he made two consecutive finals. It's the first time he's done that since 2010 probably. And that at age 34. Very impressive.
 

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lacatch said:
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I think there's a good chance you're right. And the amazing thing to keep in mind is that Novak wasn't at his best (serve definitely wasn't) and still beat a very game, "on" for the most part, Federer. And I'm also a Fed fan, but have to tell it like it is :)

A "game" Federer who was 4-23 on BP's and could barely get a forehand over the net. :cover
That Federer was only 4-23 WAS why he didn't do better/win the match, as he himself said in his presser after the match. What he DIDN'T say was that, in many of those cases, Djokovic DID NOT ALLOW him to win many of those break points through clutch play and steely resolve (I'm NOT counting the overhit forehand which would have enabled Fed to break for the third set lol).

Agreed, Roger played well for a decent part of the match though the critical first set was a mess. However, he pretty much sucked when it mattered start to finish. It cost him chances to make the 4th set interesting, It made the 2nd set more difficult than it should've been and it cost him the 3rd set. And due to that you can't call the performance even a decent one.
 

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Why So Serious? said:
DarthFed said:
Roger will be nowhere to be found at AO or RG from here on out. The question is whether or not he shows up big at any GS going forward. He was a major disappointment this year, especially at the slams. Also, you tend to overrate the crowd's impact on the match and the crowd has been heavily in Roger's favor for the better part of a decade, that won't change.

You are right that I overrate the crowd's impact in the sense that they only made Djokovic want to win more, but there was no doubt whatsoever that it affected him. Any Djokovic fan could see that. He looked very close to choking in the third and fourth sets but somehow held on. Take Wimbledon where the crowd wasn't such hooligans and Djokovic put in a much cleaner performance. But of course, there was also his final history at the USO in the back of his mind. Overall it was an extremely impressive win under the conditions and I plan on writing another blog post about it later today.

I just can't say enough good things about this win. It was probably the single most impressive performance I have ever seen by anyone, and I have watched tennis for a long time.

Oh and I don't agree at all that Federer was a major disappointment this year. Especially at the slams where he made two consecutive finals. It's the first time he's done that since 2010 probably. And that at age 34. Very impressive.

He was 18-4 at the slams and won nothing. Stan did way better and even Murray was just as good.