2014 Roland Garros SF: Nadal vs Murray

[nehmeth]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Been thinking about this for a week or so and the same thing keeps coming back to me.

I know Novak has to beat Ernie to get to the final. But if he makes it to the final here, the only person I want to see on the other side of the net is Rafael Nadal. If he's going to win this thing, I want it to be by beating the King of Clay on his home turf.

"Been thinking about this for a week or so"

Only been thinking about for a week..Yeah right, you are full of BrokenShoelace..

What the heck is your problem pushy?? When I said I've been thinking about it this week I mean it. At first, I thought I'd be happy no matter who Novak faced, and all the better if Ralf didn't make it to the final. As time went on, that opinion just didn't feel right to me...

 

[Iona16]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

On the 2 occasions Andy has reached the semis at RG he has done it without a coach. Weird.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Murray gets this one in 4. Or Nadal. Someone wins in 4.

Out of curiosity, what makes you think Murray could get it done?

Returns. Murray has the potential to be in every Rafa service game. And he has a big first serve. So if things went his way, he could pull it off. On a lesser note, the DTL backhand Murray has, on a good day, could be another determining factor.

I'll admit I haven't been able to see a lot of Murray's serve this tournament but from what I've seen I would have guessed his serve is still giving him fits. How was it clicking for him yesterday?

He got around %60 of the first serves in. His problem has been the second serve , for ever. His serve speed drops from 200s for the first serve to like 130s in the second. That is waiting to be punished all the time. He does have some action on the second serve but top guys read that easily.

 

[TennisFanatic7]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Murray has served much better in the last two matches, and when he needed to against Kohlschreiber.

Like I said the other day, I think Andy pretty much has his best tennis back now, but has had lapses in matches, most notably when he was a break up in the 4th against Kohli and almost lost, which have seen him drop silly sets. He can afford to do that against the non-elite players when it's best of five, but not against Nadal.

If he gets a coach who, like Lendl, can keep him focussed and iron out the mental lapses, I think we'll see the best of Murray again very soon.

 

[Moxie]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Been thinking about this for a week or so and the same thing keeps coming back to me.

I know Novak has to beat Ernie to get to the final. But if he makes it to the final here, the only person I want to see on the other side of the net is Rafael Nadal. If he's going to win this thing, I want it to be by beating the King of Clay on his home turf.

"Been thinking about this for a week or so"

Only been thinking about for a week..Yeah right, you are full of BrokenShoelace..

What the heck is your problem pushy?? When I said I've been thinking about it this week I mean it. At first, I thought I'd be happy no matter who Novak faced, and all the better if Ralf didn't make it to the final. As time went on, that opinion just didn't feel right to me...

I'd have to say, of all the Djokovic fans who might actually prefer someone other than Nadal across the net on Sunday, I would say, you, nehmeth, are the closest to one who actually doesn't. And I believe you when you say you want him to face Rafa. Same I would say for Kieran, as to the opposite, who says bring it on. The rest of us…maybe not so brave. :snigger

 

[TennisFanatic7]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

To be fair, if I was a Djokovic fan, I'd feel pretty confident about a final with Rafa, especially after what happened in Rome and the way Novak has made absolute mince meat of what has been about as tough a draw as you'll get in a slam at the moment. The only way Nole's draw could have been significantly crueller is if he had to play Ferrer/Murray instead of Raonic in the QFs.

I also get why they want Novak to do it against Rafa. I wanted Murray to beat Djokovic in the Wimbledon final last year so he didn't win it without beating any of his fellow Big 4 members.

 

[Aung Aung]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Havnt watched any of FO matches due to exams and my local cable line not showing it.

Really hope Murray to go one step further and get pass Nadal this time.

Iona said murray reached FO semi both times without having coach. Last time out though, whenever he faced other big 3 in slams, especially in semi or final, he seemed to wilt under pressure. This time i think he will have a different mentality at least after becoming slam winner.

 

[the AntiPusher]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Been thinking about this for a week or so and the same thing keeps coming back to me.

I know Novak has to beat Ernie to get to the final. But if he makes it to the final here, the only person I want to see on the other side of the net is Rafael Nadal. If he's going to win this thing, I want it to be by beating the King of Clay on his home turf.

"Been thinking about this for a week or so"

Only been thinking about for a week..Yeah right, you are full of BrokenShoelace..

What the heck is your problem pushy?? When I said I've been thinking about it this week I mean it. At first, I thought I'd be happy no matter who Novak faced, and all the better if Ralf didn't make it to the final. As time went on, that opinion just didn't feel right to me...

Relax my friend. Nehmeth.. if we are similar, we both have been thinking about it quite some time.. Truth is .. one does ponder a match without the other " guy" being there but for me it always come back to these two.. I always say " You can't stop what's coming or gonna happen".. So dont take offense, if you just been thinking about it for only a week, I can Respect that.. For me.. its been longer.

 

[nehmeth]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

I'd have to say, of all the Djokovic fans who might actually prefer someone other than Nadal across the net on Sunday, I would say, you, nehmeth, are the closest to one who actually doesn't. And I believe you when you say you want him to face Rafa. Same I would say for Kieran, as to the opposite, who says bring it on. The rest of us…maybe not so brave. :snigger

Thanks Moxie. Novak's lost to Rafa here before; and it would be a bummer if it happens again (for Novak and fans).

To potentially win a French Open crown sans Nadal? Not beating Rafa, here on the terre battue, would make winning the title feel hollow. I think Novak wants to play him. I could be wrong, but I think he does.

 

[nehmeth]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Been thinking about this for a week or so and the same thing keeps coming back to me.

I know Novak has to beat Ernie to get to the final. But if he makes it to the final here, the only person I want to see on the other side of the net is Rafael Nadal. If he's going to win this thing, I want it to be by beating the King of Clay on his home turf.

"Been thinking about this for a week or so"

Only been thinking about for a week..Yeah right, you are full of BrokenShoelace..

What the heck is your problem pushy?? When I said I've been thinking about it this week I mean it. At first, I thought I'd be happy no matter who Novak faced, and all the better if Ralf didn't make it to the final. As time went on, that opinion just didn't feel right to me...

if we are similar, we both have been thinking about it quite some time.. Truth is .. one does ponder a match without the other " guy" being there but for me it always come back to these two.. I always say " You can't stop what's coming or gonna happen".. So dont take offense, if you just been thinking about it for only a week, I can Respect that.. For me.. its been longer.

Pushy, I don't take offense for thinking about it for only a week, I take offense at you calling my stating it a bunch of BS. K?

 

[the AntiPusher]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Been thinking about this for a week or so and the same thing keeps coming back to me.

I know Novak has to beat Ernie to get to the final. But if he makes it to the final here, the only person I want to see on the other side of the net is Rafael Nadal. If he's going to win this thing, I want it to be by beating the King of Clay on his home turf.

"Been thinking about this for a week or so"

Only been thinking about for a week..Yeah right, you are full of BrokenShoelace..

What the heck is your problem pushy?? When I said I've been thinking about it this week I mean it. At first, I thought I'd be happy no matter who Novak faced, and all the better if Ralf didn't make it to the final. As time went on, that opinion just didn't feel right to me...

I'd have to say, of all the Djokovic fans who might actually prefer someone other than Nadal across the net on Sunday, I would say, you, nehmeth, are the closest to one who actually doesn't. And I believe you when you say you want him to face Rafa. Same I would say for Kieran, as to the opposite, who says bring it on. The rest of us…maybe not so brave. :snigger

Moxie, I disagree. I dont think there has "ever" been a post where I was hoping Rafa avoids another player especially Djoker. I may not posts as much as Kieran, but noOne bleeds Rafa blood more than I.

See how things get when things get to the nitty gritty, the current Rafa fans debate about the posts of an ole Rafa fan. What a Tribe we are.:clap

 

[Moxie]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

I'd have to say, of all the Djokovic fans who might actually prefer someone other than Nadal across the net on Sunday, I would say, you, nehmeth, are the closest to one who actually doesn't. And I believe you when you say you want him to face Rafa. Same I would say for Kieran, as to the opposite, who says bring it on. The rest of us…maybe not so brave. :snigger

Thanks Moxie. Novak's lost to Rafa here before; and it would be a bummer if it happens again (for Novak and fans).

To potentially win a French Open crown sans Nadal? Not beating Rafa, here on the terre battue, would make winning the title feel hollow. I think Novak wants to play him. I could be wrong, but I think he does.

I think everyone feels that. Djokovic wants the title, but he'd also like to do what Roger never could, which is win it by actually beating Nadal. And a Nadal fan wants Rafa to still be able to hold the line, even against Djokovic. That's the truth of it, right?

 

[Correspondent Kiu]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Rafa in 4
I am tired of picking against him!

 

[Moxie]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Rafa in 4
I am tired of picking against him!

You have done what so many of Rafa's opponents have done…just finally give up against the immutable force. :laydownlaughing

 

[the AntiPusher]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Been thinking about this for a week or so and the same thing keeps coming back to me.

I know Novak has to beat Ernie to get to the final. But if he makes it to the final here, the only person I want to see on the other side of the net is Rafael Nadal. If he's going to win this thing, I want it to be by beating the King of Clay on his home turf.

"Been thinking about this for a week or so"

Only been thinking about for a week..Yeah right, you are full of BrokenShoelace..

What the heck is your problem pushy?? When I said I've been thinking about it this week I mean it. At first, I thought I'd be happy no matter who Novak faced, and all the better if Ralf didn't make it to the final. As time went on, that opinion just didn't feel right to me...

if we are similar, we both have been thinking about it quite some time.. Truth is .. one does ponder a match without the other " guy" being there but for me it always come back to these two.. I always say " You can't stop what's coming or gonna happen".. So dont take offense, if you just been thinking about it for only a week, I can Respect that.. For me.. its been longer.

Pushy, I don't take offense for thinking about it for only a week, I take offense at you calling my stating it a bunch of BS. K?

I thought you would find some humor in it:angel:, guess not no offense intended or pun at BS.

 

[nehmeth]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

I thought you would find some humor in it:angel:, guess not no offense intended or pun at BS.

Pushy, why would I find humor in you calling me full of B.S. for saying something's been on my mind for a week? It wasn't my opinion of someone's game, or particular stroke, it was something I'd honestly wrestled with in my heart.

Nice of you to apologize to Broken at least.

 

[the AntiPusher]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

I thought you would find some humor in it:angel:, guess not no offense intended or pun at BS.

Pushy, why would I find humor in you calling me full of B.S. for saying something's been on my mind for a week? It wasn't my opinion of someone's game, or particular stroke, it was something I'd honestly wrestled with in my heart.

Nice of you to apologize to Broken at least.

Dude.. I apologize to you ... My very bad attempt at humor.

 

[Front242]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Will be funny if neither Djokovic or Nadal win the title.

 

[Moxie]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Will be funny if neither Djokovic or Nadal win the title.

Gulbis v. Murray final? :snigger

 

[Front242]

RE: French open semis: Nadal vs Murray

Why not