2014 Miami Quarterfinal: Murray vs. Djokovic

[House]

Djoker stated afterwards that he told Murray at the net during their brief exchange that he thought he was allowed to proceed with the progression of the racket over the net.. he said, " I am unsure of the Rule" .. Djoker is Full of yesterday's Lunch!:laydownlaughing

Ah I see you are also not looking forward to Novak potentially playing your guy.

It's the ump's mistake. I thought too that you could proceed with the racket over the net as long as you hit it before. It should have been the ump's job to verify it, not Novak's.

Could you point me to all these posts saying Novak did something wrong? Because I saw one person call him a "cheet" and everyone else rightfully blaming the ref.

I'm honestly quite confused lol.

allright, you're correct, I was being a bit too defensive I guess. Stupid point in any event.

It's not a big deal lol. I just really didn't know where the disconnect from what I said to what you interpreted was.

 

[Front242]

Should be noted that yesterday tennis.com made a big deal of Novak donating a point back to Robredo because he was well ahead of him and didn't anticipate losing the match but against a top 4 player things change.

 

[Denis]

Should be noted that yesterday tennis.com made a big deal of Novak donating a point back to Robredo because he was well ahead of him and didn't anticipate losing the match but against a top 4 player things change.

Also, don't forget that Novak basically had this point in the bag, it was a poor shot by Andy and Novak was right there. It might have been different if it was a Robredo situation.

 

[Front242]

Should be noted that yesterday tennis.com made a big deal of Novak donating a point back to Robredo because he was well ahead of him and didn't anticipate losing the match but against a top 4 player things change.

Also, don't forget that Novak basically had this point in the bag, it was a poor shot by Andy and Novak was right there. It might have been different if it was a Robredo situation.

Well that's the other thing. He was going to win the point either way so it's a bit moot really all the complaining.

 

[Front242]

Andy lost the plot over nothing really just like that famous feather.

 

[Riotbeard]

Should be noted that yesterday tennis.com made a big deal of Novak donating a point back to Robredo because he was well ahead of him and didn't anticipate losing the match but against a top 4 player things change.

Also, don't forget that Novak basically had this point in the bag, it was a poor shot by Andy and Novak was right there. It might have been different if it was a Robredo situation.

And I have seen Novak concede points before in competitive matches. The most congenial sporting matches ever are between Novak and Delpo. They are constantly telling each other whether or not to challenge. I also thought the robredo point came when they were on serve in the second, could be wrong though.

 

[DarthFed]

Got home in time to see Novak win in 2. Can't wait to see it on the dvr. Fed plays this evening??

Yeah, Fed's up in 3 hours.

See if Nishi can do his Sampras impression at serving again!

Or see if Rodge can avenge that pitiful loss from Madrid last year. Kei's a tough cookie though and plays very clean so it won't be easy. If the wind picks up it'll help Fed a lot.

Kei can serve as well as he likes, this is a decimation if Roger doesn't clown around.

 

[Front242]

Got home in time to see Novak win in 2. Can't wait to see it on the dvr. Fed plays this evening??

Yeah, Fed's up in 3 hours.

See if Nishi can do his Sampras impression at serving again!

Or see if Rodge can avenge that pitiful loss from Madrid last year. Kei's a tough cookie though and plays very clean so it won't be easy. If the wind picks up it'll help Fed a lot.

Kei can serve as well as he likes, this is a decimation if Roger doesn't clown around.

Hopefully. I was happy he won yesterday but today is payback for that Madrid fiasco. Although part of me wishes he got the chance to splurge Ferrer's guts all over the court today too

 

[DarthFed]

Yeah, Fed's up in 3 hours.

See if Nishi can do his Sampras impression at serving again!

Or see if Rodge can avenge that pitiful loss from Madrid last year. Kei's a tough cookie though and plays very clean so it won't be easy. If the wind picks up it'll help Fed a lot.

Kei can serve as well as he likes, this is a decimation if Roger doesn't clown around.

Hopefully. I was happy he won yesterday but today is payback for that Madrid fiasco. Although part of me wishes he got the chance to splurge Ferrer's guts all over the court today too

Daveed would have made for good target practice and he'd get enough balls back in play to help Roger get ready somewhat for Novak. This seems like a decent time for Roger to make a statement, I think he shows too much respect for Rafa and Nole at this point. He was just weak enough in the big moments to lose the IW final, no f-up's this time.

 

[Front242]

He's been pleasantly ruthless the last 2 matches so I'm happy with how he's going at least.

 

[Front242]

Agree on the respect for Rafa and Nole, although he had a very good shot at IW except for the muck TB he played and his serve really went to crap there. It's been much better this week.

 

[Iona16]

Congrats to Novak. Just too strong for Andy today.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQgvJBlbOdU&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]

I have to say I watched the controversial call in sheer disbelief. An umpire sitting up in the chair that doesn't know the rules. A professional tennis player like Novak that also appears not to know the rules. Not that I'm blaming Novak as it's the job of the umpire to keep an eye on what the heck is going on. Yes, Andy should have kept his cool and let it go but when your see a blatant umpire error being replayed on the big screen I would imagine that would be very frustrating.

 

[Front242]

Poor of the umpire alright but either way Novak was going to win that point so it didn't much make difference.

 

[Front242]

Also replays shouldn't be played right after the point on the big screen. They did it to Fed recently too and he quite rightly called them out on it. Shouldn't be allowed.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Congrats to Novak. Just too strong for Andy today.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQgvJBlbOdU&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]

I have to say I watched the controversial call in sheer disbelief. An umpire sitting up in the chair that doesn't know the rules. A professional tennis player like Novak that also appears not to know the rules. Not that I'm blaming Novak as it's the job of the umpire to keep an eye on what the heck is going on. Yes, Andy should have kept his cool and let it go but when your see a blatant umpire error being replayed on the big screen I would imagine that would be very frustrating.

I did not see the match. But, based on your video, I think Novak's shot is clearly
illegal. However, I think Novak should not be blamed and only the referee, if anybody.
Funny, I am seeing this video just after I gave several "likes" for sportsmanlike behaviour
of Novak.

Did Novak play that shot in the heat of the moment? Do you have reason to believe
that Novak knew what he did was wrong at that time (not in retrospect); for example
Milos knew what he did was wrong at the time of the incident itself in canada masters
last year. He just did not own up.

I would tend to think, if Novak knew he would have owned up.

 

[nehmeth]

Also replays shouldn't be played right after the point on the big screen. They did it to Fed recently too and he quite rightly called them out on it. Shouldn't be allowed.

Fully agree with you. Watching the match on the DVR and saw "the point". Umpire screwed up and the point belonged to Murray. Not showing the point on the stadium screen might have helped Andy avoid unraveling. Nice to see Novak stay as focused as he did today.

 

[Iona16]

Poor of the umpire alright but either way Novak was going to win that point so it didn't much make difference.

I don't think that should matter. I don't think a mistake is lessened just because you could argue that the player would have won the point regardless. I'll admit I'm not entirely sure but surely if the umpire had realised what had happened the point would have been Andy's or at the very least the point would have been replayed. As I said Andy obviously let it annoy him (his error) but I can see why he was annoyed. As for it been replayed on the big screen - that is a huge error. There is a reason they don't do that in football.

 

[Front242]

Poor of the umpire alright but either way Novak was going to win that point so it didn't much make difference.

I don't think that should matter. I don't think a mistake is lessened just because you could argue that the player would have won the point regardless. I'll admit I'm not entirely sure but surely if the umpire had realised what had happened the point would have been Andy's or at the very least the point would have been replayed. As I said Andy obviously let it annoy him (his error) but I can see why he was annoyed. As for it been replayed on the big screen - that is a huge error. There is a reason they don't do that in football.

Well, regardless of that point and indeed set I personally thought Andy was going to win in 3 and went upstairs for a shower fully expecting a third set, came back and it was all over. So clearly he let it get to him a bit too much. I can definitely see why he was annoyed too but did he realize Novak had his racquet over the net till he saw it on the screen? Totally agree about showing the replay on the big screen and incidentally I was trying to remember the match they did that to Fed and ironically it was against Andy also..at Wimbledon. The controversial double bounce that was claimed not to have been, but may have been. In the same case as tonight, they shouldn't have shown it again on the big screen as it upsets whoever lost the point and is completely unnecessary, plus probably against the rules and they should know better.

 

[Moxie]

Poor of the umpire alright but either way Novak was going to win that point so it didn't much make difference.

I don't think that should matter. I don't think a mistake is lessened just because you could argue that the player would have won the point regardless. I'll admit I'm not entirely sure but surely if the umpire had realised what had happened the point would have been Andy's or at the very least the point would have been replayed. As I said Andy obviously let it annoy him (his error) but I can see why he was annoyed. As for it been replayed on the big screen - that is a huge error. There is a reason they don't do that in football.

I agree with you, and what most have said: the fault is with the umpire, not Novak; Andy shouldn't have let it unravel him; and if the call is controversial, it's wrong to keep showing it to the crowd and the players. The umpire made the call, so move on. I don't believe they show a ball out/in when it was erroneously called, if there was no challenge, though they sometimes show us on TV. There is no reason to further make a player feel hard done by, especially at that stage of a match.

 

[Front242]

Congrats to Novak. Just too strong for Andy today.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQgvJBlbOdU&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]

I have to say I watched the controversial call in sheer disbelief. An umpire sitting up in the chair that doesn't know the rules. A professional tennis player like Novak that also appears not to know the rules. Not that I'm blaming Novak as it's the job of the umpire to keep an eye on what the heck is going on. Yes, Andy should have kept his cool and let it go but when your see a blatant umpire error being replayed on the big screen I would imagine that would be very frustrating.

I did not see the match. But, based on your video, I think Novak's shot is clearly
illegal. However, I think Novak should not be blamed and only the referee, if anybody.
Funny, I am seeing this video just after I gave several "likes" for sportsmanlike behaviour
of Novak.

Did Novak play that shot in the heat of the moment? Do you have reason to believe
that Novak knew what he did was wrong at that time (not in retrospect); for example
Milos knew what he did was wrong at the time of the incident itself in canada masters
last year. He just did not own up.

I would tend to think, if Novak knew he would have owned up.

Well, he's gonna be quizzed and quizzed on it post match or probably already has been so we'll likely hear shortly from both him and Andy.