2014 Indian Wells Masters Final: Federer v. Djokovic

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rafanoy1992

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Hopefully, this match will be a thriller. I do not know who will win this match. I do think Djokovic needs this title more than Federer. I'm not saying Federer does not need this title, I'm just saying this title would definitely boost Djokovic's confidence. If Djokovic does not win this match, there is a really high chance he would go to the Clay season without a title. If that happens, then the amount of pressure he will feel during the Clay season will be humungous. And that could potentially affect his goal on winning Roland Garros. So, there is a lot of stakes here for Djokovic tomorrow afternoon.

As for Federer, winning this match would only add up to already great season. In addition, if he could beat Djokovic again, then it will give him tremendous confidence going forward.

All in all, may the best man win, and let's hope we have a great final!
 

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It's pretty important for both of them also 'cos Roger is likely desperately trying to secure and hold onto the #4 ranking before RG begins and any confidence gained along the way can only be good. For Djokovic he also wants to gain confidence and momentum before clay season starts but lets not get ahead of ourselves here, there's also Miami next before that.

A win for Fed would be two straight wins over Djokovic which wouldn't be too bad at all for an old fart and a win for Djokovic would put him back on track in terms of confidence going forward. Losing to said old fart twice in a row probably isn't the start to the season he wants.
 

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Front242 said:
It's pretty important for both of them also 'cos Roger is likely desperately trying to secure and hold onto the #4 ranking before RG begins and any confidence gained along the way can only be good. For Djokovic he also wants to gain confidence and momentum before clay season starts but lets not get ahead of ourselves here, there's also Miami next before that.

A win for Fed would be two straight wins over Djokovic which wouldn't be too bad at all for an old fart and a win for Djokovic would put him back on track in terms of confidence going forward. Losing to said old fart twice in a row probably isn't the start to the season he wants.

I know there is Miami after this tournament, but if he loses tomorrow against Federer, then it would cripple his confidence thus putting more pressure for him to do well or win in Miami. In addition, it is not guaranteed that Djokovic will do well in Miami let alone win the tournament. At least not the way he is looking/playing right now. That's why it will be an interesting a couple of weeks for Djokovic as he enter the Clay season.
 

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It's a tough one as I'm a fan of both guys. Roger above Djokovic and in this matchup while I'd like to see Fed win, I also don't want to see Djokovic completely out of sorts either heading into clay season either. Should Fed bow out early in RG I'll be rooting big time for Djokovic to pull his act together and win RG and Djokovic needs wins and preferably a title or two heading in to RG to put him in the right frame of mind.

That said, if Fed won a few titles before then too I'd be as happy as this fella here.

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Roger's goal he set for himself this year was to win 5 titles. He'd have 2 already if he won here. An ATP 500 and masters 1000 would be a good start to the year.
 

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Front242 said:
Voting what you think will happen is the only way, otherwise it might as well be in the fantasy tennis section. I don't vote for Roger against Rafa in slams since 2008 'cos frankly it'd be downright ridiculous at this stage. Can't see why people just choose the player they support even if deep down they know they haven't a prayer. It's not a poll then, it's a comedy sketch.

Also, Novak v Roger is a much more even contest as Roger v Rafa is a one way contest at this stage so voting for Roger against Rafa is just plain dense. I mean would you bet 5k on Roger to win just 'cos he's your favourite player? I think not..and good luck with that if you do!

And that should be the governing thought process for polls. If you had to bet money, who do you REALLY think is going to win. Otherwise what's the point of the poll to begin with?

I certainly and strongly agree with the bolded remark above. However, that is not exactly
the same as voting for Rafa always in a Rafa vs. Roger match, even for rational people
(and I consider myself to be one).

For example, I voted for Roger in the WTF of last year as we all know that Roger is
generally very good in indoors and despite a bad year, he was showing signs of life
based on Basel and Paris performance. Did I end up wrong? Yes. Did I vote for what
I wanted to happen as opposed to what I thought will happen? No.

Again, in the 2014 AO, I voted for Roger. It looked like the back was healed, the
new wand and the new coach were working. Confidence was up with wins over
Tsonga and Murray. There were rumors that the court was playing fast. There was
blisters in Rafa's hand. I thought Roger will pull it through. Did I end up wrong? Yes.
Not only that Roger lost, he did not even give a reasonable fight. But, did I vote for
what I wanted to happen as opposed to what I thought will happen? No.

I do believe that everybody should vote based on what they THINK will happen
(the logic is upto them) as opposed to what they WANT to happen.

Having said that, there is no way to police this even if the moderators and
administrators of this forum accepted your and my concept of how things should
happen. This is because there is no way to know what a person really thinks, other
than the person's statement.

Also, some people vote with some superstitious reverse psychology to
jinx a player (Most recent examples: Si Si voting against Halep after literally
posting 10 messages per second praising her, Nehemeth voting for Fed and
saying openly that he did to Jinx Fed as though he has magical powers of
jinxing). This is again being childish in a different manner.

Since there is no way to police this, let us just leave this as a honor code
and let people do whatever they want to do. After all, nobody can cheat themselves.
 

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Novak is not in Roger's head. Murray was never was in Roger's head despite the H2H.
The only permanent tenant in Roger's head is Rafa.

Also, usually (independent of the end result) Roger always brings his A game when
he plays against Novak (this is even independent of his form). Now, Roger's form is
good and Novak's confidence/focus is bad.

Although any result is possible (otherwise, we would not be watching it), logically
speaking, I would give 60% chance for Roger to win it in 2, 30% chance for Roger to
win it in 3, 9% chance for Novak to win it 3 and 1% chance to win it 2.

Go - RR (Rejuvenated Roger) !!!
 

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Well, I've voted for Roger based on surface in the past but these days aside from possibly the WTF and somewhere like Cincy if Roger's playing insanely well I'd vote for Rafa every time. My point was mostly related to slams as regards voting for Rafa though. Also the h2h is almost even now between Roger and Andy. One more win for Roger and it's 11-11, which given Roger is well past his prime is pretty damn impressive. At 17-15 in Roger's favour v Djokovic it's pretty close too.
 

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Djoker in 3 is my gut feeling. He is going to be relaxed and focused after surviving today's landmine. I also think the camp will be looking at the Dubai match very closely.

I think Federer has to win this this in straights to claim the title. If Nole is a bit fatigued from all the 3 setters, that could also be factor.
 

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Front242 said:
It's a tough one as I'm a fan of both guys. Roger above Djokovic and in this matchup while I'd like to see Fed win, I also don't want to see Djokovic completely out of sorts either heading into clay season either. Should Fed bow out early in RG I'll be rooting big time for Djokovic to pull his act together and win RG and Djokovic needs wins and preferably a title or two heading in to RG to put him in the right frame of mind.

That said, if Fed won a few titles before then too I'd be as happy as this fella here.

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And waaay happier than the fellow here

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Which is probably how I will feel watching the match... :(
 

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^ LOL. You never know :D Form can change a lot from match to match, especially for Roger :( Just ask Hewitt or rewatch the Brisbane final :nono Warning: likely to induce madness, extreme laughter or both.
 

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Front242 said:
It's a tough one as I'm a fan of both guys. Roger above Djokovic and in this matchup while I'd like to see Fed win, I also don't want to see Djokovic completely out of sorts either heading into clay season either. Should Fed bow out early in RG I'll be rooting big time for Djokovic to pull his act together and win RG and Djokovic needs wins and preferably a title or two heading in to RG to put him in the right frame of mind.

That said, if Fed won a few titles before then too I'd be as happy as this fella here.

Pig-Dullhunk-537x401.jpg

Are not you supposed to be voting for who you think will win? Why do you get your head
muddled with what is good for Djokovic heading into clay season etc. etc.
 

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Nothing muddled here. Like I said, I like both guys but obviously they can't both win everything and when they play each other I'm hoping Fed wins. I also voted Fed in 3 based on form so far leading up to the final but who knows. The surface favours Djokovic if he plays well.
 

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Front242 said:
^ LOL. You never know :D Form can change a lot from match to match, especially for Roger :( Just ask Hewitt or rewatch the Brisbane final :nono Warning: likely to induce madness, extreme laughter or both.

OH yes. I think you and me were the only ones watching it live. It was a hilarious first set.
Afterwards, it was not that bad.
 

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Yeah, Fed wasn't bad in set 2 and so so in set 3 but the first set was the worst set I've ever seen him play. Laughably poor.
 

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Peter Bodo's article on ESPN



[url = "http://espn.go.com/blog/peter-bodo/post/_/id/622/in-roger-federer-we-trust"]
In Roger Federer We Trust [/url]
 

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Hello everyone, missed the boards while I was busy with work and moving home.

For the first time in many many months, I can say Fed is the favorite to win this one. He usually plays well if he knows the other guy is lacking in confidence, if the other guy is not named Rafa:D