2014 Davis Cup

[Denis]

^ uhm yeah like with Berdych. He won twice in a row and look at all the GS titles he collected after that. :nono

It actually only really happened to Novak, and I think it would be a bit rich to attribute 2011 to 2010 DC.

 

[DarthFed]

I am really glad that Switzerland won the DC title, not just because it is the first time for
Switzerland and the first time for Roger.

Winning DC usually gives an edge to the winners in the following year (Novak was a prime
example of that) and this may mean good things for Roger and Stan next year. I smell a
slam in the air for Rog in 2015.

Roger came too close to too many important things this year, only to fail in the end (see list below). If DC also slips from the hand, it would have been too devastating (mostly to me, not
to Roger who is too good at taking losses easily and moving on).

1. Rog came close to winning Wimbledon, could not deliver in 5th set.
2. Rog was playing too good in WTF, unfortunately could not even compete in the finals.
3. Rog came within shouting distance of #1; unfortunately lost to Milos at the wrong
time leading to the race for #1 becoming a virtual no contest from then on.
4. Rog lost in the finals on six different occasions during the year. That is actually
more than the five finals that he won.

Preach. This is what I've been saying the past couple months. Roger almost had a tremendous year in many ways but the margins for him between great year and bad year are very small (ie 5th set of Wimbledon). The encouraging thing is Roger did play great quite often and he seemed a lot more focused and all around tough this year in the big moments. That bodes well for 2015 and beyond if he can keep the focus and will strong.

 

[tented]

... although the French could have done a bit better strategy wise.

You don't say.

I think it would have been better if Simon had been included, not Gasquet. At least, I doubt it would have been worse. He could have won at least eight games, over three sets, to equal Gasquet's effort, and probably more. No, I don't think he would have won the match, but Gasquet is too much of a headcase to use in pressure moments.

 

[tented]

I am really glad that Switzerland won the DC title, not just because it is the first time for
Switzerland and the first time for Roger.

Winning DC usually gives an edge to the winners in the following year (Novak was a prime
example of that) and this may mean good things for Roger and Stan next year. I smell a
slam in the air for Rog in 2015.

Roger came too close to too many important things this year, only to fail in the end (see list below). If DC also slips from the hand, it would have been too devastating (mostly to me, not
to Roger who is too good at taking losses easily and moving on).

1. Rog came close to winning Wimbledon, could not deliver in 5th set.
2. Rog was playing too good in WTF, unfortunately could not even compete in the finals.
3. Rog came within shouting distance of #1; unfortunately lost to Milos at the wrong
time leading to the race for #1 becoming a virtual no contest from then on.
4. Rog lost in the finals on six different occasions during the year. That is actually
more than the five finals that he won.

Preach. This is what I've been saying the past couple months. Roger almost had a tremendous year in many ways but the margins for him between great year and bad year are very small (ie 5th set of Wimbledon). The encouraging thing is Roger did play great quite often and he seemed a lot more focused and all around tough this year in the big moments. That bodes well for 2015 and beyond if he can keep the focus and will strong.

And the wife quiet.

 

[Kieran]

That bodes well for 2015 and beyond if he can keep the focus and will strong.

Oh, and the body, Darth. He's going into 2015 with question marks over his back, but before this he'll be sojourning in India to give them pleasant people a chance to bask in his omni-glow.

He's also going to turn 34 next year. He's played a big season this year - 85 matches? - so it's a lot to ask that he'll hold up as well physically next season. A comparison could be made between 2012 moving into 2013. I would be very surprised if Roger has a season like 2013 next year, but I'd be even more surprised if it's anything like 2012...

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I think we have to give some credit to Stan who won his opening match in the DC Finals,also played in the doubles,which helped set up Roger for a win against Gasquet

Stan the forgotten Man for Swiss in the DC finals.Also it is a team event.

 

[DarthFed]

That bodes well for 2015 and beyond if he can keep the focus and will strong.

Oh, and the body, Darth. He's going into 2015 with question marks over his back, but before this he'll be sojourning in India to give them pleasant people a chance to bask in his omni-glow.

He's also going to turn 34 next year. He's played a big season this year - 85 matches? - so it's a lot to ask that he'll hold up as well physically next season. A comparison could be made between 2012 moving into 2013. I would be very surprised if Roger has a season like 2013 next year, but I'd be even more surprised if it's anything like 2012...

Yeah the health is a bit of a question. Hopefully he does the smart thing and cancels all the exhibitions. Even if the back wasn't an issue he has played a lot of tennis and needs some rest.

Can't compare this to 2012 because he pretty much didn't do anything this year, rather he was close to doing a lot. He should come back motivated...IMO part of the problem in 2013 was Roger being content with things after a great 2012. There was a letdown. I doubt he's content with this season, otherwise he has no serious goals left for himself.

 

[mrzz]

And the wife quiet.

Nobody can do that, not even Federer.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

yes, Switzerland won..lets not forget lol.

1900-1973..Britain, usa, aussie, france won DC. from 1974-2014..DC won by 13 countries.

 

[DarthFed]

yes, Switzerland won..lets not forget lol.

1900-1973..Britain, usa, aussie, france won DC. from 1974-2014..DC won by 13 countries.

Cool stat. Shows that it is a much wider battle now and smaller countries like Switzerland and Serbia can more than compete with the prior superpowers.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

^ uhm yeah like with Berdych. He won twice in a row and look at all the GS titles he collected after that. :nono

It actually only really happened to Novak, and I think it would be a bit rich to attribute 2011 to 2010 DC.

Hey, Bird at least managed to continue to make WTF every year; he could have slipped off.

 

[DarthFed]

^ uhm yeah like with Berdych. He won twice in a row and look at all the GS titles he collected after that. :nono

It actually only really happened to Novak, and I think it would be a bit rich to attribute 2011 to 2010 DC.

I wouldn't totally dismiss the DC win having a big effect on Nole. Obviously he had already been a top player for many years but he was still young and struggled to improve for a couple years following his first win at Australia in 2008. I think that DC win maybe let him relax and focus a bit more, but he was probably going to eventually improve a lot without DC so I can see your argument.

For Roger I don't see it impacting his confidence or game going forward, much different circumstances than 23 year old Novak trying to get things kickstarted.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

from 1939 and then 1946-1959 inclusive the dc final each year was contested between aussie - usa.

the clash of the hemisphere's, as it was probably never called.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Tom Perrotta on Twitter,

Nice to see@rogerfederer call Stan Wawrinka MVP of the Davis Cup.I agree.

 

[Kieran]

^ uhm yeah like with Berdych. He won twice in a row and look at all the GS titles he collected after that. :nono

It actually only really happened to Novak, and I think it would be a bit rich to attribute 2011 to 2010 DC.

Hey, Bird at least managed to continue to make WTF every year; he could have slipped off.

The Birdman is a top 8 stickie. It's a computer glitch. He wins nothing and makes no waves - he's just permanently stranded in the top 8. If he took a year off his protected ranking would prolly see him actually rise...

 

[tented]

I think we have to give some credit to Stan who won his opening match in the DC Finals,also played in the doubles,which helped set up Roger for a win against Gasquet

Stan the forgotten Man for Swiss in the DC finals.Also it is a team event.

Is it? Or is it a "team event"?

What does it say about DC that the last five were won by two guys per "team":

2010: Djokovic and Troicki
2011: Nadal and Ferrer
2012: Berdych and Stepanek
2013: Berdych and Stepanek
2014: Federer and Wawrinka

It's more like a glorified doubles event than a team event. :s

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

^^other players were in rounds before final..

rosol-burdych played 7hr doubles match in one of qf or sf of title winning year.

 

[tented]

^^other players were in rounds before final..

rosol-burdych played 7hr doubles match in one of qf or sf of title winning year.

Great point. Obviously I meant the finals, but didn't state it as such. My bad.

Nevertheless, the fact remains the finals were won by two guys, while the rest of the team watched from the sidelines, with "When can I play?" looks on their faces. It's not as if they had other tennis-related things they could have been doing, but Chiudinelli and Lammer must have felt rejected when they were replaced -- especially, as you point out, considering the work they did to get Federer and Wawrinka to the final.

 

[MartyB]

In a career like Fed's it's hard to site what are the "career defining moments" especially since he's still playing but the GS victory at RG & the Davis Cup victory maybe as significant as any because it defines his greatness by it's totality of victory in all that is the standard of our sport. Might add that winning the Davis Cup at 33 for the first time is pretty amazing. Well done Roger.....

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

And the wife quiet.

Nobody can do that, not even Federer.

Listen , the women gave birth to two sets of twins. She is allowed to yap here and there...:snigger