2014 Davis Cup

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GameSetAndMath said:
Stupid Record Alert:

Fed is now 50-17 in Davis Cup matches. With his cup clinching win today, he becomes the Swiss with most DC wins overtaking Jakob Hlasek who had the previous record of 49-30 in DC matches for the Swiss.

yes..fitting that to seal the dc title for swiss Federer claimed his 50th victory. (38s/12db)
 

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There are rumors floating around that Tsonga's withdrawal is not much due to injury and more due to his unwillingness to play in a pressure filled match in front of 27000 folks.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
There are rumors floating around that Tsonga's withdrawal is not much due to injury and more due to his unwillingness to play in a pressure filled match in front of 27000 folks.

:laydownlaughing Really? Tough guy, eh? :popcorn

You have a link? He was moaning about the crowds lack of support...
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
There are rumors floating around that Tsonga's withdrawal is not much due to injury and more due to his unwillingness to play in a pressure filled match in front of 27000 folks.

A country with as many good players, you know it's about other things; ego, mental weakness, unhappy with the coach! It's ridiculous with all their advantages, the result was only in question "BEFORE" the final! :angel: :nono :dodgy:
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
There are rumors floating around that Tsonga's withdrawal is not much due to injury and more due to his unwillingness to play in a pressure filled match in front of 27000 folks.

Yeah, seeing a lot about that alright on other forums. Pretty lame if it's true.
 

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Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
There are rumors floating around that Tsonga's withdrawal is not much due to injury and more due to his unwillingness to play in a pressure filled match in front of 27000 folks.

Yeah, seeing a lot about that alright on other forums. Pretty lame if it's true.

That's why I use the term GUTLESS often when describing this generation of players! They make too much and they're coddled; it's a wonder all don't have awful attitudes! I'm getting more insight to the real players behind the racket and it ain't pretty! :cover :nono :-/ :dodgy:
 

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Courtney Nguyen of SI.com writes:

What happened to Tsonga? If injury was the sole reason he refused to take the court again after Friday then fair enough. But amid reports that Clement wanted him to play doubles with Gasquet on Saturday only to have him back out at the 11th hour on Saturday morning, it's hard to ignore the theory that Tsonga just didn't want to deal with the pressure. A Davis Cup captain needs to have his pulse on the psyche of his players and know how to manage them.
 

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According to this article titled Clement under fire , it appears that Tsonga got injured in the boot camp during training. However, Clement decided to stick with Tsonga despite the injury as he thought Tsonga will be able to deliver.

This is what happens when you have too many options. You mess it completely instead of using the depth as a boon. If Tsonga was injured before the tie, they should not even have included him in the team. They should have used Simon and Monfils for singles and Benneteau and Vasselin for doubles.
 

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Fiero425 said:
Front242 said:
GameSetAndMath said:
There are rumors floating around that Tsonga's withdrawal is not much due to injury and more due to his unwillingness to play in a pressure filled match in front of 27000 folks.

Yeah, seeing a lot about that alright on other forums. Pretty lame if it's true.

That's why I use the term GUTLESS often when describing this generation of players! They make too much and they're coddled; it's a wonder all don't have awful attitudes! I'm getting more insight to the real players behind the racket and it ain't pretty! :cover :nono :-/ :dodgy:

If that's really the case then Tsonga is a f.....g coward and should be ban from Davis Cup competition.
 

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saw the highlights. i think fed played better against gasquet then he ever did in tour finals
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
According to this article titled Clement under fire , it appears that Tsonga got injured in the boot camp during training. However, Clement decided to stick with Tsonga despite the injury as he thought Tsonga will be able to deliver.

This is what happens when you have too many options. You mess it completely instead of using the depth as a boon. If Tsonga was injured before the tie, they should not even have included him in the team. They should have used Simon and Monfils for singles and Benneteau and Vasselin for doubles.

Tsonga was injured in october in fact (he pulled out of Shanghai)...then he recovered and played Bercy then the pain came back in Bordeaux...so Clément knew it....now everybody wonders why he didn't select healthy Simon and Benneteau/ERV for double (they won RG 2014 and played Masters's semi) they are a very good pair, much better than Richie/Benneteau...after this unexpected fail, Clément said he should have known better and needs to do his mea culpa...it's necessary if we wants to avoid this kind of disaster
Lille has become our Mar del Plata, we're as stupid as Argies...well done guys...
 

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tented said:
Congrats to the Swiss team. :clap :celeb:


I wasn't able to see the match (I DVR'ed it to watch later), but the score looks straightforward. Apparently Gasquet wasn't up for the challenge, and Federer was able to get his back in shape and execute his game.

Tented the only challenge Gasquet has Ever been up to was the when he traces of cocaine appeared in his drug test sample.
 

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the AntiPusher said:
tented said:
Congrats to the Swiss team. :clap :celeb:


I wasn't able to see the match (I DVR'ed it to watch later), but the score looks straightforward. Apparently Gasquet wasn't up for the challenge, and Federer was able to get his back in shape and execute his game.

Tented the only challenge Gasquet has Ever been up to was the when he traces of cocaine appeared in his drug test sample.

I did not see the match live, but I saw some highlights. From what I saw, it did not look like
Gasquet played terrible, despite the straight sets scoreline. It looks more of a case of Roger
finding his full form. Gasquet was engaged in lengthy rallies and going toe to toe with Rog
often. He also engaged in the standard strategy of trying to hit to the backhand of Rog more often.

However, as I have said before, I would certainly agree that Gasquet has never been known to
deliver on important matches or occasions. That observation alone would make him a bad choice
on a deciding match.
 

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It was an anti-climactic final in the sense that, for all the hullabaloo regarding Stan's loss of form, the French sequestering themselves on indoor clay and then Roger's injury which surely meant he couldn't compete, it all ended as we all expected: the French capitulated, Roger miraculously revived and even though Stan regained his touch, he was overshadowed in it all.

Gasquet is a lousy choice for anything except maybe if you sent him to a bar to order a round of drinks and asked him to surprise you...
 

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Kieran said:
Gasquet is a lousy choice for anything except maybe if you sent him to a bar to order a round of drinks and asked him to surprise you...

:clap :lolz:
 

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Kieran said:
It was an anti-climactic final in the sense that, for all the hullabaloo regarding Stan's loss of form, the French sequestering themselves on indoor clay and then Roger's injury which surely meant he couldn't compete, it all ended as we all expected: the French capitulated, Roger miraculously revived and even though Stan regained his touch, he was overshadowed in it all.

Gasquet is a lousy choice for anything except maybe if you sent him to a bar to order a round of drinks and asked him to surprise you...

I don't think Stan was overshadowed in it all. He won two rubbers, one singles and one doubles. He had just as big of a part in it as Federer, maybe even more since he didn't lose a single match.

But heck it's a team competition, that doesn't even matter. They will both get equal credit in Switzerland I am sure, together with captain Luthi (the name cracks me up every time I type it). And the other two journeymen who managed to get a rubber this year might even get a pad on the back too.
 

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Denisovich said:
Kieran said:
It was an anti-climactic final in the sense that, for all the hullabaloo regarding Stan's loss of form, the French sequestering themselves on indoor clay and then Roger's injury which surely meant he couldn't compete, it all ended as we all expected: the French capitulated, Roger miraculously revived and even though Stan regained his touch, he was overshadowed in it all.

Gasquet is a lousy choice for anything except maybe if you sent him to a bar to order a round of drinks and asked him to surprise you...

I don't think Stan was overshadowed in it all. He won two rubbers, one singles and one doubles. He had just as big of a part in it as Federer, maybe even more since he didn't lose a single match.

But heck it's a team competition, that doesn't even matter. They will both get equal credit in Switzerland I am sure, together with captain Luthi (the name cracks me up every time I type it). And the other two journeymen who managed to get a rubber this year might even get a pad on the back too.

Don't get me wrong, Stan was the bedrock, with his win against Tsonga. And it was good for tennis that the great man played so well on Monday, though he could hardly have faced a handier opponent. It was interesting after Friday's matches, but the way it panned out after this, it was surely anti-climactic, from a neutral point of view...
 

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Kieran said:
Denisovich said:
Kieran said:
It was an anti-climactic final in the sense that, for all the hullabaloo regarding Stan's loss of form, the French sequestering themselves on indoor clay and then Roger's injury which surely meant he couldn't compete, it all ended as we all expected: the French capitulated, Roger miraculously revived and even though Stan regained his touch, he was overshadowed in it all.

Gasquet is a lousy choice for anything except maybe if you sent him to a bar to order a round of drinks and asked him to surprise you...

I don't think Stan was overshadowed in it all. He won two rubbers, one singles and one doubles. He had just as big of a part in it as Federer, maybe even more since he didn't lose a single match.

But heck it's a team competition, that doesn't even matter. They will both get equal credit in Switzerland I am sure, together with captain Luthi (the name cracks me up every time I type it). And the other two journeymen who managed to get a rubber this year might even get a pad on the back too.

Don't get me wrong, Stan was the bedrock, with his win against Tsonga. And it was good for tennis that the great man played so well on Monday, though he could hardly have faced a handier opponent. It was interesting after Friday's matches, but the way it panned out after this, it was surely anti-climactic, from a neutral point of view...

Yeah, I see that. It was rather routine stuff after the doubles rubber. It would have been nice to have a 5 set fifth deciding rubber in the end, but the French were simply to weak or the Swiss too strong. I'm inclined to the latter view, although the French could have done a bit better strategy wise.
 

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I am really glad that Switzerland won the DC title, not just because it is the first time for
Switzerland and the first time for Roger.

Winning DC usually gives an edge to the winners in the following year (Novak was a prime
example of that) and this may mean good things for Roger and Stan next year. I smell a
slam in the air for Rog in 2015.

Roger came too close to too many important things this year, only to fail in the end (see list below). If DC also slips from the hand, it would have been too devastating (mostly to me, not
to Roger who is too good at taking losses easily and moving on).

1. Rog came close to winning Wimbledon, could not deliver in 5th set.
2. Rog was playing too good in WTF, unfortunately could not even compete in the finals.
3. Rog came within shouting distance of #1; unfortunately lost to Milos at the wrong
time leading to the race for #1 becoming a virtual no contest from then on.
4. Rog lost in the finals on six different occasions during the year. That is actually
more than the five finals that he won.