World Tour Finals: Day 8 - Final - Sunday Nov. 16, Order of Play

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Fiero425 said:
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It would certainly have been interesting to see a fit Roger play against Novak. Nole was definitely the favourite, but remember he lost their last match? It's not a foregone conclusion he would have won

As a Fed fan I'll say you were dreamin'! He was not necessarily playing that well as much as his competition choked like dogs! He was playing better for the most part, but it wouldn't have been enough for the real elite; just scrubs who struggled to make the WTF for the most part! :angel: :rolleyes:

Even if he was fit he was gonna find it hard to run after a long 3 setter yesterday but he mangled Murray with a 38% first serve. Imagine if he'd served over 75% ! Novak's the clear favourite these days on this surface and it was always gonna be hard though.
 

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Too bad that Nole couldn't win today as I had no doubts he was so pumped up. Yeah people will put * to this title, but frankly I don't care. He was obviously the best player here. Way to go champ! You can go home now and enjoy some time with your wife and your son.:heart::angel:
 

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Also kudos to Andy and Nole for playing the exhibition even though they really didn't have to. I can't imagine any other players giving extra to the fans, even though the crowd in London cheered their double faults and mistakes on more than one occasion. I know they are better people than me.:D
 

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Front242 said:
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So Andy and Novak agree to play an exibition with each other.

That's really nice of them, but not really a consolation for the audience I think.

Nothing against Andy but I dunno what the organisers were thinking allowing a guy who won a single match here play an exo. Should've been a semi final runner up or Lopez as the next alternative after Ferrer who already got to play a match.

Perhaps the Tournament Director was thinking more about the fact that Andy is the British no.1 and the most successful player on the tour after the top 3. No doubt he played well below his best this week but huge credit to him for answering the call of the TD and turning up today. Of course the crowd were disappointed not to see Djokovic v Federer but I think it was very sporting of Andy and Novak to play a set of tennis for a disappointed crowd. To make out that the crowd should feel short changed because they saw an exho set of tennis featuring Andy and not Wawrinka or Nishikori is bloody insulting to Murray. Others implying that Andy was all the tournament could scrape up is also insulting. Getting a no doubt still very bruised Andy to pick up a racquet today was job well done by Chris Kermode. Not a bad plan B as far as I can tell. It has been nice to see Andy being given a lot of credit on social media etc for being such a good sport. This forum seems to be in the minority.

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Murray was sitting at home playing video game Mario Kart when Chris Kermode, ATP chairman and president, phoned him on his mobile with a simple plea: "You have to help me out here."

Kermode had just been informed that Federer might have to withdraw because of a back injury sustained in his semi-final defeat of Stanislas Wawrinka. "I had to have a plan B," he said.

He called Murray, who thought the ATP executive was "winding him up". Convinced of the seriousness of the situation, Murray immediately jumped into his car and drove to North Greenwich, arriving at 5pm.

An hour later he played a pro set against Djokovic, losing 8-5, and then partnered John McEnroe in a victory over Henman and Cash.

He told the crowd: "I have to apologise because clearly I pushed Roger too hard on Thursday." This was a self-deprecatory reference to match against Federer that Murray lost 6-0, 6-1.

Kermode confirmed Murray would not be paid a penny for his appearance last night, adding: "People will say many things about athletes and on Andy in particular people can be very critical about things over the years but he has a fundamental responsibility for tennis and an acknowledgement that people are paying money to come to see something. He was straight in."
 

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Iona16 said:
BTW huge congrats to Novak. #1 again. Well deserved.

When do you think Nole will pass Rafa being #1? I think he's at least 20 weeks behind right now! You can eliminate half of that since there's a dead period until they all get back on their horses! :rolleyes: :dodgy:
 

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Fiero425 said:
Iona16 said:
BTW huge congrats to Novak. #1 again. Well deserved.

When do you think Nole will pass Rafa being #1? I think he's at least 20 weeks behind right now! You can eliminate half of that since there's a dead period until they all get back on their horses! :rolleyes: :dodgy:

Well, I'll be hoping he doesn't. Rafa is my 2nd favourite player.
 

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Iona16 said:
Fiero425 said:
Iona16 said:
BTW huge congrats to Novak. #1 again. Well deserved.

When do you think Nole will pass Rafa being #1? I think he's at least 20 weeks behind right now! You can eliminate half of that since there's a dead period until they all get back on their horses! :rolleyes: :dodgy:

Well, I'll be hoping he doesn't. Rafa is my 2nd favourite player.

For what, a plane crash or loss of a limb? That will be the only way; esp. since Rafa's been only a part time player for years! When has he defended anything significantly but his FO's? Not sure he really cares about anything else if you ask me!"
 

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djokovic is playing like his 2011 self again. painting the lines and hitting with authority. can he keep this up

Well he was at the end of last year and the year before too. His level will come down a bit but I do expect him to recapture his title in Australia.
 

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"Right now I'm at the pinnacle in my career. I physically feel very fit. I'm very motivated to keep on playing on a very high level. As long as it's like that, I'm going to try to use these years in front of me to fight for World No. 1 and to fight for the biggest titles in the sport.

"Roland Garros is and was and still will be one of the biggest goals that I have. I'll keep on trying. Any Grand Slam win is another page in the history books of this sport. Of course, being No. 1 is also one of the biggest challenges and biggest goals a player can have.”

Full interview and video as well:

http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en/news-and-media/tennis/london-finale-2014-final-djokovic-reaction
 

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Fiero425 said:
When do you think Nole will pass Rafa being #1? I think he's at least 20 weeks behind right now! You can eliminate half of that since there's a dead period until they all get back on their horses! :rolleyes: :dodgy:

The difference is 20 or 21 weeks, but Nole will make up at least 10 weeks during the off season. Nole has only 360 points to defend next year at AO, so hopefully he does much better there and adds more points to his total. I am hopeful he can pass Rafa next year.:angel:
 

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Billie said:
Fiero425 said:
When do you think Nole will pass Rafa being #1? I think he's at least 20 weeks behind right now! You can eliminate half of that since there's a dead period until they all get back on their horses! :rolleyes: :dodgy:

The difference is 20 or 21 weeks, but Nole will make up at least 10 weeks during the off season. Nole has only 360 points to defend next year at AO, so hopefully he does much better there and adds more points to his total. I am hopeful he can pass Rafa next year.:angel:

So am I. It is a realistic short term goal to accomplish, considering that during the first 2 months Fedal guys have more points to defend than Nole. Rafa will not be a treat even in March, because he is that far behind in 3rd. The only threat will be Roger comes March, when Nole will defend 2000 pints among IW-Miami. We shall see, but the first even more important goal should be to recapture the AO.
 

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Fiero425 said:
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It would certainly have been interesting to see a fit Roger play against Novak. Nole was definitely the favourite, but remember he lost their last match? It's not a foregone conclusion he would have won

As a Fed fan I'll say you were dreamin'! He was not necessarily playing that well as much as his competition choked like dogs! He was playing better for the most part, but it wouldn't have been enough for the real elite; just scrubs who struggled to make the WTF for the most part! :angel: :rolleyes:

You could say the same about Djokovic at YEC. The only ones who played worth a damn were Nole and Roger at this event. Cilic and Berd were in clown form, Murray was God awful, Raonic was hurt and Stan and Nishi were pretty mediocre. Both Nole and Roger played by far their worst match of the event in the semis.
 

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Billie said:
"Right now I'm at the pinnacle in my career. I physically feel very fit. I'm very motivated to keep on playing on a very high level. As long as it's like that, I'm going to try to use these years in front of me to fight for World No. 1 and to fight for the biggest titles in the sport.

"Roland Garros is and was and still will be one of the biggest goals that I have. I'll keep on trying. Any Grand Slam win is another page in the history books of this sport. Of course, being No. 1 is also one of the biggest challenges and biggest goals a player can have.”

Full interview and video as well:

http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en/news-and-media/tennis/london-finale-2014-final-djokovic-reaction

Thanks for posting this, Billie. Everyone should take a few minutes to watch the interview, if they haven't already.
 

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DarthFed said:
Fiero425 said:
federberg said:
It would certainly have been interesting to see a fit Roger play against Novak. Nole was definitely the favourite, but remember he lost their last match? It's not a foregone conclusion he would have won

As a Fed fan I'll say you were dreamin'! He was not necessarily playing that well as much as his competition choked like dogs! He was playing better for the most part, but it wouldn't have been enough for the real elite; just scrubs who struggled to make the WTF for the most part! :angel: :rolleyes:

You could say the same about Djokovic at YEC. The only ones who played worth a damn were Nole and Roger at this event. Cilic and Berd were in clown form, Murray was God awful, Raonic was hurt and Stan and Nishi were pretty mediocre. Both Nole and Roger played by far their worst match of the event in the semis.

They were bored! Nole was not even looking as if he could lose his semi! I could have stepped in and taken that semi from Fed with so many opportunities! :laydownlaughing Stan vapor-locked at the wrong times and he'll blame everyone, including Mirka for this loss for years to come! I've been there; fortunately it happened when I was in high school and had only been playing for 4 years! I only lost 3 or 4 matches over the years back then, always making City in singles and doubles, and I remember all the losses even though it happened back in the 70's!

Stan might need professional help after this one! You can kiss away Davis Cup as far as I'm concerned! When you have bad chemistry, it shows eventually when it comes to team events! Becker was hated and that was the reason they suffered even with other great players on the team! I would think Spain would have won more Cups! I just can't swallow universal love with such an ego driven group! I normally don't watch a lot of DC; esp. our sorry arse team here in the States, but I won't miss a moment of this one! You know residual effects will show eventually! If and when Switzerland faces any adversity during that final, the events of this championship will be invoked by commentary; mark my words! :rolleyes: :p :nono :ras:
 

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^ Or they could just say, Stan played crap and Roger's back was compromised or simply the French played better and deserved to win. The more likely commentary I reckon seeing as not one thing J Mac said was confirmed by anyone. The roids have fried his mind and probably his ears too.
 

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Took a look at the doubles exhibition just now! OMG, was that the best they could scare up; sextagenarians from my time? McEnroe literally looks older than his father when he was in the stands 30 odd years ago! Cash is a shell of himself; once "thunder thighs" have given way to spindly legs with sagging skin! No comment on the Brits; both awful out there! Murray couldn't volley for %$#t! I'd demand my money back!
 

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Fiero425 said:
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Fiero425 said:
As a Fed fan I'll say you were dreamin'! He was not necessarily playing that well as much as his competition choked like dogs! He was playing better for the most part, but it wouldn't have been enough for the real elite; just scrubs who struggled to make the WTF for the most part! :angel: :rolleyes:

You could say the same about Djokovic at YEC. The only ones who played worth a damn were Nole and Roger at this event. Cilic and Berd were in clown form, Murray was God awful, Raonic was hurt and Stan and Nishi were pretty mediocre. Both Nole and Roger played by far their worst match of the event in the semis.

They were bored! Nole was not even looking as if he could lose his semi! I could have stepped in and taken that semi from Fed with so many opportunities! :laydownlaughing Stan vapor-locked at the wrong times and he'll blame everyone, including Mirka for this loss for years to come! I've been there; fortunately it happened when I was in high school and had only been playing for 4 years! I only lost 3 or 4 matches over the years back then, always making City in singles and doubles, and I remember all the losses even though it happened back in the 70's!

Stan might need professional help after this one! You can kiss away Davis Cup as far as I'm concerned! When you have bad chemistry, it shows eventually when it comes to team events! Becker was hated and that was the reason they suffered even with other great players on the team! I would think Spain would have won more Cups! I just can't swallow universal love with such an ego driven group! I normally don't watch a lot of DC; esp. our sorry arse team here in the States, but I won't miss a moment of this one! You know residual effects will show eventually! If and when Switzerland faces any adversity during that final, the events of this championship will be invoked by commentary; mark my words! :rolleyes: :p :nono :ras:

I'm with you! I never watch Davis Cup, but I'm definitely intrigued this time