Wimbledon Preview Talk

[nehmeth]

How many titles Federer has won these last two years? and he is still #2, incredible but true how the ranking is working......

1. Djokovic
12 titles and 3 finals

2. Federer
9 titles and 8 finals

3. Murray
6 titles and 2 finals

4. Wawrinka
6 titles and 0 finals

It looks as though it is working pretty well.

I was asking about how many MS and GS titles has won these last two years

No Carol, you asked how many titles. Rankings aren't based on just the Masters and Slams, but maybe you didn't know that. Here's the break down of slams/1000's. Federer is exactly where he should be at #2. Suck it up girl and move on.

1. Djokovic
11 titles 2 finals

2. Federer
2 titles 7 finals

3. Murray
1 title 2 finals

4. Wawrinka
3 titles 1 final

 

[Carol]

1. Djokovic
12 titles and 3 finals

2. Federer
9 titles and 8 finals

3. Murray
6 titles and 2 finals

4. Wawrinka
6 titles and 0 finals

It looks as though it is working pretty well.

I was asking about how many MS and GS titles has won these last two years

No Carol, you asked how many titles. Rankings aren't based on just the Masters and Slams, but maybe you didn't know that. Here's the break down of slams/1000's. Still Federer is exactly
where he should be at #2. Suck it up girl and move on.


1. Djokovic
11 titles 2 finals

2. Federer
2 titles 7 finals

3. Murray

1 title 2 finals

4. Wawrinka
3 titles 1 final

Yes, I asked about titles but maybe I had to be more specific like I was right after :roll-eyes
And probably I know about the ranking more than you but after to read some comments of some Federer's fans and "Rafa's future" , if Federer can make, Nadal too catch it?

 

[Carol]

So Ferru definitely pulls out of Wimbledon, I feel sorry for him (I hate the injuries for obvious reasons) and I would have liked to see him playing against Nadal, he always make him to work hard though

http://www1.skysports.com/tennis/news/12040/9897316/david-ferrer-pulls-out-of-wimbledon

 

[nehmeth]

Yes, I asked about titles but maybe I had to be more specific like I was right after

And obviously you are still wrong. Federer is the legitimate #2 in the world even based on your more specific criteria of Slams and Masters 1000's.

 

[Fiero425]

Yes, I asked about titles but maybe I had to be more specific like I was right after

And obviously you are still wrong. Federer is the legitimate #2 in the world even based on your more specific criteria of Slams and Masters 1000's.

It's a tenuous #2 that is very close to collapsing into itself! He must get back to this Wimbledon final, then defend those summer points! The last time I looked, even though his ranking is #2, looking at this year alone, he's more #6 and hasn't qualified for the WTF! :eyepop :nono :angel: :dodgy:

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Yes, I asked about titles but maybe I had to be more specific like I was right after

And obviously you are still wrong. Federer is the legitimate #2 in the world even based on your more specific criteria of Slams and Masters 1000's.

It's a tenuous #2 that is very close to collapsing into itself! He must get back to this Wimbledon final, then defend those summer points! The last time I looked, even though his ranking is #2, looking at this year alone, he's more #6 and hasn't qualified for the WTF! :eyepop :nono :angel: :dodgy:

Federer is #4 in the race right now. Also, no one has qualified other than Novak. It is too early in the season to qualify unless you are cleaning up everything like Novak.

 

[nehmeth]

Yes, I asked about titles but maybe I had to be more specific like I was right after

And obviously you are still wrong. Federer is the legitimate #2 in the world even based on your more specific criteria of Slams and Masters 1000's.

It's a tenuous #2 that is very close to collapsing into itself! He must get back to this Wimbledon final, then defend those summer points! The last time I looked, even though his ranking is #2, looking at this year alone, he's more #6 and hasn't qualified for the WTF!

This is becoming bizarre. I don't like Fed and am defending him. You love Fed and are undermining him. He won Halle again. He made the finals of Rome. His best part of the year is on grass and hard courts, or did you forget that? :cover:nono

 

[Carol]

Yes, I asked about titles but maybe I had to be more specific like I was right after

And obviously you are still wrong. Federer is the legitimate #2 in the world even based on your more specific criteria of Slams and Masters 1000's.

Try to read my modified 11:12 comment. I've never say it's not legitimate but it's not necessary to win MS and GS either.

 

[nehmeth]

Yes, I asked about titles but maybe I had to be more specific like I was right after

And obviously you are still wrong. Federer is the legitimate #2 in the world even based on your more specific criteria of Slams and Masters 1000's.

Try to read my modified 11:12 comment. I've never say it's not legitimate but it's not necessary to win MS and GS either.

But the fact is that he also did consistently better than everyone except Novak in reaching/winning MS/GS finals.

 

[Fiero425]

And obviously you are still wrong. Federer is the legitimate #2 in the world even based on your more specific criteria of Slams and Masters 1000's.

It's a tenuous #2 that is very close to collapsing into itself! He must get back to this Wimbledon final, then defend those summer points! The last time I looked, even though his ranking is #2, looking at this year alone, he's more #6 and hasn't qualified for the WTF!

This is becoming bizarre. I don't like Fed and am defending him. You love Fed and are undermining him. He won Halle again. He made the finals of Rome. His best part of the year is on grass and hard courts, or did you forget that? :cover:nono

I'm being reserved in those results! Who did he beat? When we went overboard assuming the FO was Nole's to check off his "bucket list," it blew up in our face! Federer's still the GOAT, but this is NOLE's time and I won't favor Roger right now! I'm just being realistic and looking at the history of tennis; taking that all into consideration! :angel: :dodgy:

 

[nehmeth]

And probably I know about the ranking more than you but after to read some comments of some Federer's fans and "Rafa's future" , if Federer can make, Nadal too catch it?

Probably if you would research the rankings before making your statements maybe you would post less too.

We will see if Rafa get's back up in the rankings... it's good that you are staying hopeful.

 

[Carol]

Novak says: "It has take me some time to recovery and resting after RG. The change from clay to grass is tough, I'm training for 10 days, I don't care about some players have won some grass titles already, I'm feeling 100% good now"

 

[Carol]

And probably I know about the ranking more than you but after to read some comments of some Federer's fans and "Rafa's future" , if Federer can make, Nadal too catch it?

Probably if you would research the rankings before making your statements maybe you would post less too.

We will see if Rafa get's back up in the rankings... it's good that you are staying hopeful.

I keep thinking the same way, my point is that they don't need to win MS and GS to be on the top, just to be more stable. An yes I'm staying hopeful that Nadal will win more GS contrarily you think and also the Federer's fans wishes

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Now that Ferrer has dropped out, they are supposed to rebalance the draw as the withdrawal happened before the first ball is struck . Instead, they have simply put Vanni in Ferru's spot.
I don't know what is going on here.

I think according to the rules, Ferru's spot should be given to Cilic the guy seeded 9th and Cilic's spot should go to Tsonga, the guy seeded 13th, Tsonga's spot should go to Isner, the guy seeded 17th and Isner's sport should go to Seppi, the guy seeded 25th and Seppi's spot should go to Kohly who is the highest ranked non-seeded player and Kohly's spot should go to the lucky loser Vanni.

 

[bajana]

It's a tenuous #2 that is very close to collapsing into itself! He must get back to this Wimbledon final, then defend those summer points! The last time I looked, even though his ranking is #2, looking at this year alone, he's more #6 and hasn't qualified for the WTF!

This is becoming bizarre. I don't like Fed and am defending him. You love Fed and are undermining him. He won Halle again. He made the finals of Rome. His best part of the year is on grass and hard courts, or did you forget that? :cover:nono

I'm being reserved in those results! Who did he beat? When we went overboard assuming the FO was Nole's to check off his "bucket list," it blew up in our face! Federer's still the GOAT, but this is NOLE's time and I won't favor Roger right now! I'm just being realistic and looking at the history of tennis; taking that all into consideration! :angel: :dodgy:

Poor Fed! Young, old or in-between, he can't catch a break! "Who did he beat?" always has the implication he didn't beat anyone of note - so according to some, he didn't beat anyone in 2004-2007; he didn't beat anyone in his mid-life period, and he still isn't beating anyone now his legs are creaking. You have to admit, he's got to be good to have won so many matches, held down the No. 1 spot for so many weeks, hold so many records - all the while some people apparently didn't notice anyone across the net from him in his matches :dodgy:

 

[Kieran]

Now that Ferrer has dropped out, they are supposed to rebalance the draw as the withdrawal happened before the first ball is struck . Instead, they have simply put Vanni in Ferru's spot.
I don't know what is going on here.

I think according to the rules, Ferru's spot should be given to Cilic the guy seeded 9th and Cilic's spot should go to Tsonga, the guy seeded 13th, Tsonga's spot should go to Isner, the guy seeded 17th and Isner's sport should go to Seppi, the guy seeded 25th and Seppi's spot should go to Kohly who is the highest ranked non-seeded player and Kohly's spot should go to the lucky loser Vanni.

It's probably too late for them to do that, though I don't why it would be, but I seem to remember something similar happening before and they didn't re-address the draw...

 

[Fiero425]

This is becoming bizarre. I don't like Fed and am defending him. You love Fed and are undermining him. He won Halle again. He made the finals of Rome. His best part of the year is on grass and hard courts, or did you forget that? :cover:nono

I'm being reserved in those results! Who did he beat? When we went overboard assuming the FO was Nole's to check off his "bucket list," it blew up in our face! Federer's still the GOAT, but this is NOLE's time and I won't favor Roger right now! I'm just being realistic and looking at the history of tennis; taking that all into consideration! :angel: :dodgy:

Poor Fed! Young, old or in-between, he can't catch a break! "Who did he beat?" always has the implication he didn't beat anyone of note - so according to some, he didn't beat anyone in 2004-2007; he didn't beat anyone in his mid-life period, and he still isn't beating anyone now his legs are creaking. You have to admit, he's got to be good to have won so many matches, held down the No. 1 spot for so many weeks, hold so many records - all the while some people apparently didn't notice anyone across the net from him in his matches :dodgy:

So it doesn't affect your thoughts concerning Federer's chances by winning Halle with "no one" there to really test him and going out early in a Masters 1000 event; Kyrgois in Madrid? Hmmmm! K; gotcha! :cover uzzled :nono :angel:

 

[Federberg]

And obviously you are still wrong. Federer is the legitimate #2 in the world even based on your more specific criteria of Slams and Masters 1000's.

It's a tenuous #2 that is very close to collapsing into itself! He must get back to this Wimbledon final, then defend those summer points! The last time I looked, even though his ranking is #2, looking at this year alone, he's more #6 and hasn't qualified for the WTF!

This is becoming bizarre. I don't like Fed and am defending him. You love Fed and are undermining him. He won Halle again. He made the finals of Rome. His best part of the year is on grass and hard courts, or did you forget that? :cover:nono

Nehmeth haven't you heard? Fiero's now a Djokovic supporter, not Federer. It was a surprise to all of us :snicker

 

[Federberg]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3142125/Novak-Djokovic-denies-cheating-claims-coach-Boris-Becker-reveals-eve-Wimbledon-communicates-world-No-1-matches.html

Becker is becoming a real liability! I wonder if he'll still be on team Djokovic at the end of this season?

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Here are the relevant portions of the ITF rules goverinng the withdrawal of a seeded player after the draw is made.

"Any vacancy created by the withdrawal of a seed prior to the release of the Order of Play for the first day of Main Draw shall be filled as follows:

- If the withdrawal is among seeds 1 to 4, the 5th seed is moved into then open position, the 5th position shall be filled by the 17th seed, and the 17th position shall be filled by the next highest ranked player eligible to be seeded. - If the withdrawal is among seeds 5 to 16, the 17th seed is moved into the open position and the 17th position shall be filled by the next highest ranked player eligible to be seeded. - If the withdrawal is among seeds 17 to 32 it shall be filled by the next highest ranked player eligible to be seeded.
The position vacated by that next highest ranked player shall then be filled by the next player on the original entry list if prior to the commencement of the Qualifying competition or by the eligible Lucky Loser if after the commencement of the Qualifying competition.
Any vacancy created by the withdrawal of a seed which occurs after the release of the Order of Play for the first day of the Main Draw shall be filled by eligible Lucky Losers."

As Ferrer is seeded 8th, the portion of the rules dealing with withdrawal of players 5 to 16 applies.
According to that, Isner, who is ranked 17th should be given Ferrer's spot and Isner's spot should go to Kohly who is the highest ranked non-seeded player and Kohly's spot should go to luck loser Vanni.

They did not do it, as the withdrawal came after the OOP for Monday was released. Too bad!
Knowing the rules, Ferrer probably deliberately waited to declare his withdrawal until after the OOP was released to help out fellow countryman who now essentially has the easiest octet of all the eight octets out there. What a conspiracy by the Ironman!:cover