Wimbledon, Day 4, 2 July, Order of Play

Moxie

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DarthFed said:
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I'd expect Roger to have just as much crowd support as he did in 2012, possibly more. Why wouldn't he when you consider he is just older and Murray got the monkey off his back by winning Wimbledon. Face it, the Brits love him like he is one of their own!

If it shapes up it should be a heck of a match but Berd doo is a wild card in all this. Roger has dominated him twice this year but I still wouldn't call Berd an easy matchup and Fed is well aware that Tomas has won 2 straight matches at majors vs. him. Even if he just stretches Roger (or any of the next 2 opponents stretch him) that could hurt his chances in the semi.

Don't be expecting more crowd support, and I still stand by "not as much." In 2012, the Brits hadn't fully wrapped their arms around Andy, but after that runner-up speech, the Olympic gold, and the 2013 title, the floodgates opened. I'd wager that Roger could see his lowest support since facing Rafa in Spain. And you're making my point about Berdych...he doesn't have the best H2H v. Roger, but he troubles him in the big moments. And even a troublesome and long QF could influence Fed's SF.

And Roger is closer to the end and is worse than he was in 2012, if anything there will be more support for him as he tries for one last good run at Wimbledon. The British warmed to Murray plenty before that and God knows how badly they wanted one of their own to win Wimbledon in 2012. Roger will have plenty of support, that won't make or break anything. Murray's serve will be the key IMO, if he serves well he probably wins.

As I said before, crowd support or lack thereof won't trouble Roger. If Murray serves well, and especially if he makes a long match of it, he'll win.
 

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Best run for Andujar at W, taking him possibly to a new career high, great result by little known Basilashvili. But I must say Feli Lopez had an awful grass season and I think his late peak came to an end, since he reached the 12 ranked position, he started to descend slowly.
 

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Moxie629 said:
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And the big guns will almost surely have to get through him. Roger is playing confident and relaxed grass tennis. But if he gets to Murray, he will unlikely have the crowd support he had in 2012. Not that that really matters to Roger. But I think Andy has the chops to make it long, and I think that will get Roger. And if it's Novak in the final, he'll have to contend with a cheering section that could fit in a phone booth, once again, which doesn't suit him. I think Andy can take them both.

I'd expect Roger to have just as much crowd support as he did in 2012, possibly more. Why wouldn't he when you consider he is just older and Murray got the monkey off his back by winning Wimbledon. Face it, the Brits love him like he is one of their own!

If it shapes up it should be a heck of a match but Berd doo is a wild card in all this. Roger has dominated him twice this year but I still wouldn't call Berd an easy matchup and Fed is well aware that Tomas has won 2 straight matches at majors vs. him. Even if he just stretches Roger (or any of the next 2 opponents stretch him) that could hurt his chances in the semi.

Don't be expecting more crowd support, and I still stand by "not as much." In 2012, the Brits hadn't fully wrapped their arms around Andy, but after that runner-up speech, the Olympic gold, and the 2013 title, the floodgates opened. I'd wager that Roger could see his lowest support since facing Rafa in Spain. And you're making my point about Berdych...he doesn't have the best H2H v. Roger, but he troubles him in the big moments. And even a troublesome and long QF could influence Fed's SF.

You're right Moxie. They like Andy a lot more. Just don't mistake the crowd you saw at the Olympics with a Wimbledon crowd. I figure the crowd will be even, possibly slightly pro Andy. But if Roger does TMF they'll go crazy for him. They definitely won't be against Roger
 

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It is confirmed. Craig O'Shannesay, author of Brain Games Column, is in Dustin Brown's team.
There is a full article on ESPN about that. But I am quoting one paragraph just to confirm this.

"There's no doubt - I'm 100 percent about this: the years that Dustin spent in that van mean that he appreciates this even more," Craig O'Shannessy, Brown's strategy analyst and friend of many years, told ESPN.
 

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GameSetAndMath said:
It is confirmed. Craig O'Shannesay, author of Brain Games Column, is in Dustin Brown's team.
There is a full article on ESPN about that. But I am quoting one paragraph just to confirm this.

"There's no doubt - I'm 100 percent about this: the years that Dustin spent in that van mean that he appreciates this even more," Craig O'Shannessy, Brown's strategy analyst and friend of many years, told ESPN.

Excellent. :D

Posting the link here for others to read:
http://espn.go.com/tennis/wimbledon15/story/_/id/13193527/wimbledon-dustin-brown-organized-chaos