Why Can't I Discuss Nadal's Amazing Results without...

[Luxilon Borg]

I have juiced in the past. I've tried store-bought orange juice, grapephruit juice, and grape juice. I also bought a juicer so I could concoct my own juices (which darn near caused me to puke). All that ephort and I still suck at tennis. Maybe I shoulda just had a V8?

OJ gives me cankers.:nono

 

[brokenshoelace]

I have juiced in the past. I've tried store-bought orange juice, grapephruit juice, and grape juice. I also bought a juicer so I could concoct my own juices (which darn near caused me to puke). All that ephort and I still suck at tennis. Maybe I shoulda just had a V8?

:laydownlaughing

You're my phavorite poster.

 

[Front242]

We also have to take on board why it's being discussed. It's another attempt to take the shine off Rafa's great achievements, and I thought this kind of thing would be beneath Luxilon, but obviously it isn't...

Incorrect. I am stand in awe of the man. I'm exhausted from lifting my jaw off the ground.

What my thread was REALLY about is OTHERS trying to take the shine off of his achievements.

I'm willing to believe that you were "just asking." It's a very old trope as a way of dissing Rafa and a cheap ploy to tarnish his records. If you're hearing it around your club now, I'm surprised if you've never heard it before. (And you mentioned Rochus, so you have. Oh, and I looked it up…it was the brother, Christophe Rochus, btw.) Consequently, though, it got hackles up. (Mine, included.) Because dope testing results are not transparent, merely bringing it up tends to cast aspersions on an athlete. That's why, around here, we don't go in for doping speculation about players without substantiation. I realize that that's not what you were doing. But anyway, that's why you got so much brittle response.

Thanks for your response. As I said, and I will say it again, Nadal is the sickest athlete I have seen play the game. I read his book to get an insight. The sport is. 24/7 52 week a year obsession for him.

Yeh, I do think it is brought up to tarnish his record. When ever he out injured, I would have one pro tell me he was "cycling", and I would ask how the hello he would know...and I would hear a list of circumstantial things with no proof.

Btw, another other clown tried to make headlines earlier this year by claiming there is no way Rafa could come back from 7 months off and win 10 tournaments or whatever it was in 2013 without drugs, and he had the nerve to implicate Ferrer, saying he even used to be a smoker. This idiot was a no name challenger player but some press outlets licked it up.

The man is a phenom, and some can't accept it. I saw him as a chubby faced 16 old clinging to Moya's shirt tails, but I heard the buzz. A year later he was a specimen like nothing I had seen before, sharing a practice court with 3 other players, as was the custom for the lower tier. His body had matured and I just could not believe how he was murdering the ball. The rest is history. FYI...I hated the pirate pants and the sleeveless....thank god he came to his senses...lol.

Ferrer has been seen smoking at stoppage in matches due to rain delays, etc. Apparently he quit a few years ago they say but there are lots of pro athletes out there who smoke. Used to work on a construction site so you can imagine it's true but so what. Some people are just lucky and can smoke and still run like a gazelle.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/usopen07/news/story?page=notebookuso070906

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2168250/Wimbledon-2012-David-Ferrer-face-Andy-Murray-beating-Juan-Martin-Del-Potro.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ferrer

 

[Luxilon Borg]

We also have to take on board why it's being discussed. It's another attempt to take the shine off Rafa's great achievements, and I thought this kind of thing would be beneath Luxilon, but obviously it isn't...

Incorrect. I am stand in awe of the man. I'm exhausted from lifting my jaw off the ground.

What my thread was REALLY about is OTHERS trying to take the shine off of his achievements.

I'm willing to believe that you were "just asking." It's a very old trope as a way of dissing Rafa and a cheap ploy to tarnish his records. If you're hearing it around your club now, I'm surprised if you've never heard it before. (And you mentioned Rochus, so you have. Oh, and I looked it up…it was the brother, Christophe Rochus, btw.) Consequently, though, it got hackles up. (Mine, included.) Because dope testing results are not transparent, merely bringing it up tends to cast aspersions on an athlete. That's why, around here, we don't go in for doping speculation about players without substantiation. I realize that that's not what you were doing. But anyway, that's why you got so much brittle response.

Thanks for your response. As I said, and I will say it again, Nadal is the sickest athlete I have seen play the game. I read his book to get an insight. The sport is. 24/7 52 week a year obsession for him.

Yeh, I do think it is brought up to tarnish his record. When ever he out injured, I would have one pro tell me he was "cycling", and I would ask how the hello he would know...and I would hear a list of circumstantial things with no proof.

Btw, another other clown tried to make headlines earlier this year by claiming there is no way Rafa could come back from 7 months off and win 10 tournaments or whatever it was in 2013 without drugs, and he had the nerve to implicate Ferrer, saying he even used to be a smoker. This idiot was a no name challenger player but some press outlets licked it up.

The man is a phenom, and some can't accept it. I saw him as a chubby faced 16 old clinging to Moya's shirt tails, but I heard the buzz. A year later he was a specimen like nothing I had seen before, sharing a practice court with 3 other players, as was the custom for the lower tier. His body had matured and I just could not believe how he was murdering the ball. The rest is history. FYI...I hated the pirate pants and the sleeveless....thank god he came to his senses...lol.

Ferrer has been seen smoking at stoppage in matches due to rain delays, etc. Apparently he quit a few years ago they say but there are lots of pro athletes out there who smoke. Used to work on a construction site so you can imagine it's true but so what. Some people are just lucky and can smoke and still run like a gazelle.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/usopen07/news/story?page=notebookuso070906

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2168250/Wimbledon-2012-David-Ferrer-face-Andy-Murray-beating-Juan-Martin-Del-Potro.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ferrer

I thinking tennis players and other athletes smoking is a very European thing, and very isolated in tennis. I remember Robbie Koenig lacing into a coach for smoking....

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

^When I was playing juniors and crappy satellites, there was a guy who would have a beer during change overs...It was in something like a gatorade bottle but you knew what it was because he would burp on your face as you were changing ends....brutal.

Those were the days...

 

[Luxilon Borg]

^When I was playing juniors and crappy satellites, there was a guy who would have a beer during change overs...It was in something like a gatorade bottle but you knew what it was because he would burp on your face as you were changing ends....brutal.

Those were the days...

Lol...when was in the locker room at the US Open in the mid 80, there was a fridge with beers. The only guys who would drink it after matches were guys in the legends draw and coaches.

I have seen guys drink beers after USTA open level matches. Breakfast of champions:snigger

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Aha!!! I've caught Rafa red handed...slurping on a gel pack before his match against Brown...

Sugar, that is his secret!!!!

 

[Front242]

Aha!!! I've caught Rafa red handed...slurping on a gel pack before his match against Brown...

Sugar, that is his secret!!!!

Secret of losing lol. Hope he keeps on doing it in that case! :snigger

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Aha!!! I've caught Rafa red handed...slurping on a gel pack before his match against Brown...

Sugar, that is his secret!!!!

Secret of losing lol. Hope he keeps on doing it in that case! :snigger

Actually all kidding aside, he is a sugar fiend. Def. not gluten free.

 

[Moxie]

Aha!!! I've caught Rafa red handed...slurping on a gel pack before his match against Brown...

Sugar, that is his secret!!!!

Secret of losing lol. Hope he keeps on doing it in that case! :snigger

Actually all kidding aside, he is a sugar fiend. Def. not gluten free.

It can't be something he indulges, though, can it? Toni tells a story about Rafa going for his 3rd chocolate croissant some years ago, and one of the team suggesting Toni stop him. And he just said, "Let him get a stomach ache. Then he won't do it again." He does eat a lot of pasta, though, so definitely not gluten free.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

Aha!!! I've caught Rafa red handed...slurping on a gel pack before his match against Brown...

Sugar, that is his secret!!!!

Secret of losing lol. Hope he keeps on doing it in that case! :snigger

Actually all kidding aside, he is a sugar fiend. Def. not gluten free.

It can't be something he indulges, though, can it? Toni tells a story about Rafa going for his 3rd chocolate croissant some years ago, and one of the team suggesting Toni stop him. And he just said, "Let him get a stomach ache. Then he won't do it again." He does eat a lot of pasta, though, so definitely not gluten free.

Yes,I know that story,

Funnily enough, in a recent Men's Fitness he talked about his sugar compulsion be says he does not consume it during tournaments and certainly not before matches.

With the calories he burns, it may not matter.

 

[Moxie]

Actually all kidding aside, he is a sugar fiend. Def. not gluten free.

It can't be something he indulges, though, can it? Toni tells a story about Rafa going for his 3rd chocolate croissant some years ago, and one of the team suggesting Toni stop him. And he just said, "Let him get a stomach ache. Then he won't do it again." He does eat a lot of pasta, though, so definitely not gluten free.

Yes,I know that story,

Funnily enough, in a recent Men's Fitness he talked about his sugar compulsion be says he does not consume it during tournaments and certainly not before matches.

With the calories he burns, it may not matter.

Ha, I'll look for it. I know he doesn't eat the cake they always give him at Roland Garros, or beyond a polite bite. I can't imagine he'd avoid sugar for weight maintenance, but just to eat right for performance.

 

[Iona16]

Actually all kidding aside, he is a sugar fiend. Def. not gluten free.

It can't be something he indulges, though, can it? Toni tells a story about Rafa going for his 3rd chocolate croissant some years ago, and one of the team suggesting Toni stop him. And he just said, "Let him get a stomach ache. Then he won't do it again." He does eat a lot of pasta, though, so definitely not gluten free.

Yes,I know that story,

Funnily enough, in a recent Men's Fitness he talked about his sugar compulsion be says he does not consume it during tournaments and certainly not before matches.

With the calories he burns, it may not matter.

Ha, I'll look for it. I know he doesn't eat the cake they always give him at Roland Garros, or beyond a polite bite. I can't imagine he'd avoid sugar for weight maintenance, but just to eat right for performance.

I know he used to be a huge fan of nutella. I remember him saying he could get through 3 jars a week.

I can't believe he doesn't like ham, cheese or tomato. Put those 3 in a baguette and I'm in heaven.

 

[Moxie]

Actually all kidding aside, he is a sugar fiend. Def. not gluten free.

It can't be something he indulges, though, can it? Toni tells a story about Rafa going for his 3rd chocolate croissant some years ago, and one of the team suggesting Toni stop him. And he just said, "Let him get a stomach ache. Then he won't do it again." He does eat a lot of pasta, though, so definitely not gluten free.

Yes,I know that story,

Funnily enough, in a recent Men's Fitness he talked about his sugar compulsion be says he does not consume it during tournaments and certainly not before matches.

With the calories he burns, it may not matter.

Ha, I'll look for it. I know he doesn't eat the cake they always give him at Roland Garros, or beyond a polite bite. I can't imagine he'd avoid sugar for weight maintenance, but just to eat right for performance.

I know he used to be a huge fan of nutella. I remember him saying he could get through 3 jars a week.

I can't believe he doesn't like ham, cheese or tomato. Put those 3 in a baguette and I'm in heaven.

Me, either! I almost had to rescind my fandom over that one. Not to mention that he almost has to give up Spanish citizenship over it. But he loves pasta and seafood, so we reconciled. :laydownlaughing

 

[Luxilon Borg]

It can't be something he indulges, though, can it? Toni tells a story about Rafa going for his 3rd chocolate croissant some years ago, and one of the team suggesting Toni stop him. And he just said, "Let him get a stomach ache. Then he won't do it again." He does eat a lot of pasta, though, so definitely not gluten free.

Yes,I know that story,

Funnily enough, in a recent Men's Fitness he talked about his sugar compulsion be says he does not consume it during tournaments and certainly not before matches.

With the calories he burns, it may not matter.

Ha, I'll look for it. I know he doesn't eat the cake they always give him at Roland Garros, or beyond a polite bite. I can't imagine he'd avoid sugar for weight maintenance, but just to eat right for performance.

I know he used to be a huge fan of nutella. I remember him saying he could get through 3 jars a week.

I can't believe he doesn't like ham, cheese or tomato. Put those 3 in a baguette and I'm in heaven.

Me, either! I almost had to rescind my fandom over that one. Not to mention that he almost has to give up Spanish citizenship over it. But he loves pasta and seafood, so we reconciled. :laydownlaughing

He can eat an entire vat of paella himself...he is a grand slam champion of a eater for sure.

 

[Luxilon Borg]

http://www.tennisworldusa.org/Editor/Img/Rafael-Nadal-img13541_668.jpg

http://www.foodieslovethis.com/celebrity-fitness/rafael-nadal-fitness-and-diet-plan-revealed/
Interesting here the picture where he has a bottle of wine with dinner...

 

[Iona16]

It can't be something he indulges, though, can it? Toni tells a story about Rafa going for his 3rd chocolate croissant some years ago, and one of the team suggesting Toni stop him. And he just said, "Let him get a stomach ache. Then he won't do it again." He does eat a lot of pasta, though, so definitely not gluten free.

Yes,I know that story,

Funnily enough, in a recent Men's Fitness he talked about his sugar compulsion be says he does not consume it during tournaments and certainly not before matches.

With the calories he burns, it may not matter.

Ha, I'll look for it. I know he doesn't eat the cake they always give him at Roland Garros, or beyond a polite bite. I can't imagine he'd avoid sugar for weight maintenance, but just to eat right for performance.

I know he used to be a huge fan of nutella. I remember him saying he could get through 3 jars a week.

I can't believe he doesn't like ham, cheese or tomato. Put those 3 in a baguette and I'm in heaven.

Me, either! I almost had to rescind my fandom over that one. Not to mention that he almost has to give up Spanish citizenship over it. But he loves pasta and seafood, so we reconciled. :laydownlaughing

Talking of cheese can you remember this clip Moxie? It's not great quality but it always makes me laugh.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywvXBLKG2hk[/video]

 

[Luxilon Borg]

He really does not like cheese, does he??!!!!

 

[Moxie]

I can't see the clip! Tell me what it is and I'll look it up.

 

[tented]

I can't see the clip! Tell me what it is and I'll look it up.

I fixed it. You should be able to see it now.