Who will de-throne Novak?

[Fiero425]

At which point Darth will be prepared to take nole out behind the tennis frontier barn and shoot him :snicker

If he's ready, why are Rafa and Roger still hoofin' around? They're beat up glue products; esp. Rafa! lol! :ras:

Well, I think Darth has been calling for Fed's retirement out of being a shadow of his former self for years. I would also guess that Darth would have been ok with Rafa retiring around 2005.

:deadhorse - I full well agree wholeheartedly! Roger's only taken one major in the last 5 years and played 2 finals! Andy's done better and he's nowhere near as talented! I've never been on board with Nadal; esp. with that type of "grinding out" tennis against nobodies early in a draw! I just have no respect for his game; all on the tech and his physicality! It has little to do with tennis as far as I'm concerned! :cover :nono :dodgy:

 

[Billie]

At which point Darth will be prepared to take nole out behind the tennis frontier barn and shoot him :snicker

If he's ready, why are Rafa and Roger still hoofin' around? They're beat up glue products; esp. Rafa! lol! :ras:

Well, I think Darth has been calling for Fed's retirement out of being a shadow of his former self for years. I would also guess that Darth would have been ok with Rafa retiring around 2005.

:lolz: :laydownlaughing

Thank you all, it's been an enjoyable day at the tennis frontier.:hug

 

[Puppet Master]

At which point Darth will be prepared to take nole out behind the tennis frontier barn and shoot him :snicker

If he's ready, why are Rafa and Roger still hoofin' around? They're beat up glue products; esp. Rafa! lol! :ras:

Well, I think Darth has been calling for Fed's retirement out of being a shadow of his former self for years. I would also guess that Darth would have been ok with Rafa retiring around 2005.

Hahahahahahahahahaha
There are many types of jokes here, but when people start joking around with Darth's hatred for Rafa... Hilarious
:laydownlaughing :laydownlaughing

 

[mrzz]

del Potro.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

not sure I'd call it 'dethroning' but I also still feel murray could be world no1 rank.

 

[DarthFed]

Novak will be on the decline by the middle of next year if not sooner. As for who will take advantage...maybe Murray or Nadal for a short bit. As for the next dominant #1 who rules for a long time after Nole...no clue.

Do you mean physically or mentally? I think he is physically OK, his body is almost perfect for this sport (this according to the person who knows best, his physio Miljan Amanovic), barring some accident (God forbid). My main concern for Nole is actually his mental state. If he wins FO this year, I can see him letting up a little bit. I have to admit that Nole in this aspect is not in the same category as Rafa and Fed. He still sometimes (rarely now, but it happens) likes to go out in the middle of a tournament, stay up till late, have fun. I can't imagine Fed or Rafa doing it.

He is in Milan today and will be releasing his gluten free food products (no details on this yet), but that might keep him in the game longer, and if he has to chase some tournaments.

Just based on history. Nole, like Roger, has stayed fairly healthy throughout the years but 28-29 is often the time in a player's career where they take a big step back. That was the case with Roger and it looks to be the same with Rafa too. This doesn't mean it will be the same with Nole but I don't picture him continuing at this level for 2 more full seasons. Barring something unforeseen Nole will still be relevant into his 30's but just not as good as he is right now. That's normal.

 

[DarthFed]

At which point Darth will be prepared to take nole out behind the tennis frontier barn and shoot him :snicker

If he's ready, why are Rafa and Roger still hoofin' around? They're beat up glue products; esp. Rafa! lol! :ras:

Well, I think Darth has been calling for Fed's retirement out of being a shadow of his former self for years. I would also guess that Darth would have been ok with Rafa retiring around 2005.

Well sometimes I've gotten caught up in the moment and, upon seeing him shank a few forehands out of the stadium, I may have wished he had retired before the match :devil

In all seriousness the only period of time I was wondering if he should/would retire was after the 2011 USO. I thought either he'd look in the mirror and think he still had something to prove to himself or he would come to the conclusion he was no longer motivated enough and didn't want to keep humiliating himself with losses like 2011 Wimbledon and USO. Given his interview later in the year we know what he chose.

As for your second sentence, hell yes!! It's already been 10 years for tennis' Robespierre.

 

[DarthFed]

Novak will be on the decline by the middle of next year if not sooner. As for who will take advantage...maybe Murray or Nadal for a short bit. As for the next dominant #1 who rules for a long time after Nole...no clue.

At which point Darth will be prepared to take nole out behind the tennis frontier barn and shoot him :snicker

Only if it's a certain lefty who shall not be named that Nole relinquishes the #1 to.

 

[DarthFed]

Novak will be on the decline by the middle of next year if not sooner. As for who will take advantage...maybe Murray or Nadal for a short bit. As for the next dominant #1 who rules for a long time after Nole...no clue.

At which point Darth will be prepared to take nole out behind the tennis frontier barn and shoot him :snicker

He'll shoot him if he gets within a couple of Fed.

If he ends up passing Roger in slams...fair play to him and I'd be fine with that. Roger's 17 isn't lasting long if that's where he stays. As you've heard me say before Roger simply left too many on the table in the close matches, and whether it's Rafa, Nole or someone 10-15 years from now his record will definitely fall if he doesn't add onto it. I'm still thinking Roger gets 1 more and hoping he's greedy enough to somehow get 2. 19 would last as the record for awhile I think.

 

[Billie]

Novak will be on the decline by the middle of next year if not sooner. As for who will take advantage...maybe Murray or Nadal for a short bit. As for the next dominant #1 who rules for a long time after Nole...no clue.

Do you mean physically or mentally? I think he is physically OK, his body is almost perfect for this sport (this according to the person who knows best, his physio Miljan Amanovic), barring some accident (God forbid). My main concern for Nole is actually his mental state. If he wins FO this year, I can see him letting up a little bit. I have to admit that Nole in this aspect is not in the same category as Rafa and Fed. He still sometimes (rarely now, but it happens) likes to go out in the middle of a tournament, stay up till late, have fun. I can't imagine Fed or Rafa doing it.

He is in Milan today and will be releasing his gluten free food products (no details on this yet), but that might keep him in the game longer, and if he has to chase some tournaments.

Just based on history. Nole, like Roger, has stayed fairly healthy throughout the years but 28-29 is often the time in a player's career where they take a big step back. That was the case with Roger and it looks to be the same with Rafa too. This doesn't mean it will be the same with Nole but I don't picture him continuing at this level for 2 more full seasons. Barring something unforeseen Nole will still be relevant into his 30's but just not as good as he is right now. That's normal.

Darth, anything is possible, but not all people and all players are the same. I think you sometimes don't give him enough credit as how well he has planned his life, how smart he is and how he turned his tennis around and still was able to enjoy life's little pleasures.

Anyway, DJOKOlife has arrived, what a name :lolz:

http://novakdjokovic.com/en/news/media/novak-introduces-djokolife-project/

I really wonder how he has time for tennis at all sometimes.

 

[DarthFed]

Do you mean physically or mentally? I think he is physically OK, his body is almost perfect for this sport (this according to the person who knows best, his physio Miljan Amanovic), barring some accident (God forbid). My main concern for Nole is actually his mental state. If he wins FO this year, I can see him letting up a little bit. I have to admit that Nole in this aspect is not in the same category as Rafa and Fed. He still sometimes (rarely now, but it happens) likes to go out in the middle of a tournament, stay up till late, have fun. I can't imagine Fed or Rafa doing it.

He is in Milan today and will be releasing his gluten free food products (no details on this yet), but that might keep him in the game longer, and if he has to chase some tournaments.

Just based on history. Nole, like Roger, has stayed fairly healthy throughout the years but 28-29 is often the time in a player's career where they take a big step back. That was the case with Roger and it looks to be the same with Rafa too. This doesn't mean it will be the same with Nole but I don't picture him continuing at this level for 2 more full seasons. Barring something unforeseen Nole will still be relevant into his 30's but just not as good as he is right now. That's normal.

Darth, anything is possible, but not all people and all players are the same. I think you sometimes don't give him enough credit as how well he has planned his life, how smart he is and how he turned his tennis around and still was able to enjoy life's little pleasures.

Anyway, DJOKOlife has arrived, what a name :lolz:

http://novakdjokovic.com/en/news/media/novak-introduces-djokolife-project/

I really wonder how he has time for tennis at all sometimes.

I'm well aware everyone is different dear Billie :hug But he is going to decline eventually and we are speculating (guessing?) as to when that will be. History says most players are well on their way down before they hit 30. I'd say Roger planned his schedule well over the years, stayed very healthy for the most part and also has a style that is less taxing than most. Despite all that Roger took a huge step down after he won the 2010 AO which was just 5 months after he turned 28. A lot of the other greats were declining by age 26-27 in the past. Maybe Nole will be an exception but it is worth mentioning that he has been a top 3 player for 8 years already, and that's a lot of wear and tear.

 

[Billie]

And then Fed won 2012 Wimbledon.

I don't expect Nole to win almost every single tournament even now, let alone in 2 years, but it is possible that he plays at the high level for another 2-3 years. I feel that his physical state is better than Federer's at the same age. Sure they decline a bit after they hit 30, but that doesn't mean that they can't be a valid threat at certain tournaments. Like I mentioned it before, I fully expect him to start missing some mandatory tournaments as he sees fit, even dropping his #1 ranking soon. I don't care about the records, I care about him being healthy, happy and maximizing all of his opportunities as much as he can, of which winning majors is the #1 thing.

 

[DarthFed]

And then Fed won 2012 Wimbledon.

I don't expect Nole to win almost every single tournament even now, let alone in 2 years, but it is possible that he plays at the high level for another 2-3 years. I feel that his physical state is better than Federer's at the same age. Sure they decline a bit after they hit 30, but that doesn't mean that they can't be a valid threat at certain tournaments. Like I mentioned it before, I fully expect him to start missing some mandatory tournaments as he sees fit, even dropping his #1 ranking soon. I don't care about the records, I care about him being healthy, happy and maximizing all of his opportunities as much as he can, of which winning majors is the #1 thing.

Roger winning 2012 Wimbledon didn't change the fact that he was no longer the same player he was at 28, much less what he was at age 25. It was just impressive that the old man could rise up once again. And I think you all may have to endure it one more time at least.

 

[Billie]

And then Fed won 2012 Wimbledon.

I don't expect Nole to win almost every single tournament even now, let alone in 2 years, but it is possible that he plays at the high level for another 2-3 years. I feel that his physical state is better than Federer's at the same age. Sure they decline a bit after they hit 30, but that doesn't mean that they can't be a valid threat at certain tournaments. Like I mentioned it before, I fully expect him to start missing some mandatory tournaments as he sees fit, even dropping his #1 ranking soon. I don't care about the records, I care about him being healthy, happy and maximizing all of his opportunities as much as he can, of which winning majors is the #1 thing.

Roger winning 2012 Wimbledon didn't change the fact that he was no longer the same player he was at 28, much less what he was at age 25. It was just impressive that the old man could rise up once again. And I think you all may have to endure it one more time at least.

:lolz: NO, no and NO! Enough for Fed, you know my opinion.

So should I start calling Nole old man now, 4 days before his 28th birthday? It is remarkable what this old man is capable of doing.

 

[Billie]

I actually think that Nole is better in every possible way now at 28 than his 2011 self and not to even mention all those years before that, if you could believe that.

 

[DarthFed]

Ah, there are worse things in the world. Roger is winning 1 of the next 2 Wimbledons and making 1 of the next 2 USO finals. I don't know if he will win that USO final as the Oracle of Delphi has yet to consult Samson on the subject.

 

[Billie]

Ah, there are worse things in the world. Roger is winning 1 of the next 2 Wimbledons and making 1 of the next 2 USO finals. I don't know if he will win that USO final as the Oracle of Delphi has yet to consult Samson on the subject.

:lolz: Somehow my fellow Nole fans found out about some Serbian fortune teller, who apparently was correct in his predictions about Nole in the past. This January he predicted Nole wouldn't win a single slam in 2015...you should have seen the panic in some of my friends. :laydownlaughing Thank god Nole won AO and saved us all some bigger distress.

Very confident words regarding Fed. I won't contradict you, I guess we will see what happens.

 

[DarthFed]

I like what I see from Roger for the most part. He still has days where he flat out stinks but a lot of his problem is the ROS at this point. It's the best his backhand has been in a long time and if his ROS goes from terrible to decent he is going to be tough to take down on fast courts. Roger's dominant forehand is never coming back but it is still good enough for the most part to give him a chance.

 

[Moxie]

Novak will be on the decline by the middle of next year if not sooner. As for who will take advantage...maybe Murray or Nadal for a short bit. As for the next dominant #1 who rules for a long time after Nole...no clue.

OK, everyone has already taken the piss out of you for this one, but I'll ask...based on what? He's a superb athlete, generally suffers no injuries, and is only just about to turn 28. There may be a lot more push-pull with the undercards, who are trying to rise up. (The revolution!) And he may lose his #1, given that he'll be basically defending everything next year. But "decline?" That's not really on the horizon. I doubt you'll see him lose a step before 30.

 

[DarthFed]

Novak will be on the decline by the middle of next year if not sooner. As for who will take advantage...maybe Murray or Nadal for a short bit. As for the next dominant #1 who rules for a long time after Nole...no clue.

OK, everyone has already taken the piss out of you for this one, but I'll ask...based on what? He's a superb athlete, generally suffers no injuries, and is only just about to turn 28. There may be a lot more push-pull with the undercards, who are trying to rise up. (The revolution!) And he may lose his #1, given that he'll be basically defending everything next year. But "decline?" That's not really on the horizon. I doubt you'll see him lose a step before 30.

I kind of answered this in other responses in this thread to Billie. Remember I said by the middle of next year which is around the time he turns 29. And 29 is old for tennis, always has been especially with the top tier. Ferrer is about the only exception I can think of except for maybe Agassi (and we know the story with him).

I will flip this around and say what makes people think Novak won't decline before he's 30? He is about to turn 28 and if his current form holds up he will be by far the best 28 year old player we've ever seen. Roger turned 28 after winning Wimbledon 2009, and then he won AO 5 months after his birthday. And it was all downhill in a hurry after that. So, for starters, what makes you think he will age a whole lot better than Roger did?