Where are all the Djokolites?

[Kieran]

Masochism and amazement. Interesting that you bring up those two words.

When I watch Nadal pull out yet another grinded-out win in which his opponent hit more winners and clearly had control for significant portions of the match, it is indeed something akin to a masochistic experience.

As for amazement! I am repeatedly amazed by how Nadal wins matches like the one against Janowicz where he clearly looked like the worse player. He does this over and over, by being persistent and just not going away and opportunistically winning a couple key points.

It truly does cause me amazement how he pulls that nonsense off over and over and how too few players have stopped it.

Nonsense? Having a winning record against everybody in the Top 30? That's not nonsense - that's just being better than everyone. I'm not sure what you're looking for. I know you love highlight reel tennis - you even mistake an odd 3 minute YouTube flick for a whole match sometimes - so watch the next three points here and enjoy. Big heroic forehand and a Sampras-like ace sandwiching some typical defiance and brilliance off the backhand wing.

All with the championship on the line, no less.

Or skip on a few points to this and savour not only the backhand, but also that beast of a forehand that drove Novak into error. You miss whole swathes of stuff because all you see is this champions heart dominating your TV screen the same way it dominates his rivals, but there's huge levels of intensity and skill, and in no world or version of a world would I ever describe Nadal inferior to anyone who plays or played tennis. He has an immense arsenal and incomparable tennis intelligence. Plus, the essence of the competitor is to compete, and there's no-one ever understood that so well as Ralph.

Plus, "hitting more winners than your opponent" isn't a sign that you're better than them. You know this, right? Allowing JJ to implode is a master's art. JJ blazing winners isn't a sign that he should win the match - and likewise Novak. Novak is certifiably greater than JJ, but you lump all opponents of Rafa together. I remember you saying Raonic would beat him in Canada.

Three words: WTF!

 

[huntingyou]

Masochism and amazement. Interesting that you bring up those two words.

When I watch Nadal pull out yet another grinded-out win in which his opponent hit more winners and clearly had control for significant portions of the match, it is indeed something akin to a masochistic experience.

As for amazement! I am repeatedly amazed by how Nadal wins matches like the one against Janowicz where he clearly looked like the worse player. He does this over and over, by being persistent and just not going away and opportunistically winning a couple key points.

It truly does cause me amazement how he pulls that nonsense off over and over and how too few players have stopped it.

Nonsense? Having a winning record against everybody in the Top 30? That's not nonsense - that's just being better than everyone. I'm not sure what you're looking for. I know you love highlight reel tennis - you even mistake an odd 3 minute YouTube flick for a whole match sometimes - so watch the next three points here and enjoy. Big heroic forehand and a Sampras-like ace sandwiching some typical defiance and brilliance off the backhand wing.

All with the championship on the line, no less.

Or skip on a few points to this and savour not only the backhand, but also that beast of a forehand that drove Novak into error. You miss whole swathes of stuff because all you see is this champions heart dominating your TV screen the same way it dominates his rivals, but there's huge levels of intensity and skill, and in no world or version of a world would I ever describe Nadal inferior to anyone who plays or played tennis. He has an immense arsenal and incomparable tennis intelligence. Plus, the essence of the competitor is to compete, and there's no-one ever understood that so well as Ralph.

Plus, "hitting more winners than your opponent" isn't a sign that you're better than them. You know this, right? Allowing JJ to implode is a master's art. JJ blazing winners isn't a sign that he should win the match - and likewise Novak. Novak is certifiably greater than JJ, but you lump all opponents of Rafa together. I remember you saying Raonic would beat him in Canada.

Three words: WTF!

Just want to quote this post; it's a gem with highlights and all :heart:

 

[El Dude]

I'll never relate to how people like college football as much as they do. The NFL is far better.

I feel the same as you but the phenomena is easily explainable: people follow their alma mater. NFL teams have a regional allegiance, but the college you went to is often a stronger affiliation. My brother is a case in point. He's lived the last 30+ years in the Boulder-Denver region, went to CU in the 80s and is a huge Buffaloes fan - he has been a season ticket holder for years. He likes the Broncos, but it doesn't have the same deep affiliation.

 

[NADAL2005RG]

NADAL2005RG has probably scared them all away.

DISCLAIMER: The post below is in no way demanding anything. I have never done that and nor is it my style.

With that out of the way, I'll state the following: Despite the fact that after a very short while, we've all learned not to take him seriously, he does bring the quality of the conversation down because at some point or another, someone will reply to him (I'm guilty of that as well), in which he will retaliate with something even more silly than his initial post, and it all goes downhill from there. It leads to thread hijacking, and it really puts me off (speaking strictly for myself here) as far as revisiting that thread and continuing whatever previous conversation had been started.

It's quite irritating actually. It's one thing going on tireless arguments with Cali or whatever, because at least actual arguments are being advanced, even if the thread gets derailed. This however, is completely different. Essentially, and I'm sorry for being too blunt here, but many threads are turning into most of us telling him, in one way or another, how stupid his posts are.

You just admitted to spending many threads calling me stupid. You are lucky that I don't point out the number of your posts that I consider to be stupid. See, that's the difference between you and me. I accept the opinion of others, while you mock others for having an opinion that differs to your own. That's the childish approach to debate (not really debate) that you've chosen.

I don't mock others' opinion that differs from mine. I mock yours. Big difference.

And please, do point out my posts that you think are stupid from now on. Smarten me up.

I post about tennis. You should too, seeing as this is a tennis forum. Mocking people for having an opinion?.....What is the point of that?

 

[brokenshoelace]

NADAL2005RG has probably scared them all away.

DISCLAIMER: The post below is in no way demanding anything. I have never done that and nor is it my style.

With that out of the way, I'll state the following: Despite the fact that after a very short while, we've all learned not to take him seriously, he does bring the quality of the conversation down because at some point or another, someone will reply to him (I'm guilty of that as well), in which he will retaliate with something even more silly than his initial post, and it all goes downhill from there. It leads to thread hijacking, and it really puts me off (speaking strictly for myself here) as far as revisiting that thread and continuing whatever previous conversation had been started.

It's quite irritating actually. It's one thing going on tireless arguments with Cali or whatever, because at least actual arguments are being advanced, even if the thread gets derailed. This however, is completely different. Essentially, and I'm sorry for being too blunt here, but many threads are turning into most of us telling him, in one way or another, how stupid his posts are.

You just admitted to spending many threads calling me stupid. You are lucky that I don't point out the number of your posts that I consider to be stupid. See, that's the difference between you and me. I accept the opinion of others, while you mock others for having an opinion that differs to your own. That's the childish approach to debate (not really debate) that you've chosen.

I don't mock others' opinion that differs from mine. I mock yours. Big difference.

And please, do point out my posts that you think are stupid from now on. Smarten me up.

I post about tennis. You should too, seeing as this is a tennis forum. Mocking people for having an opinion?.....What is the point of that?

...to point out how silly said opinion is.

 

[Ricardo]

DISCLAIMER: The post below is in no way demanding anything. I have never done that and nor is it my style.

With that out of the way, I'll state the following: Despite the fact that after a very short while, we've all learned not to take him seriously, he does bring the quality of the conversation down because at some point or another, someone will reply to him (I'm guilty of that as well), in which he will retaliate with something even more silly than his initial post, and it all goes downhill from there. It leads to thread hijacking, and it really puts me off (speaking strictly for myself here) as far as revisiting that thread and continuing whatever previous conversation had been started.

It's quite irritating actually. It's one thing going on tireless arguments with Cali or whatever, because at least actual arguments are being advanced, even if the thread gets derailed. This however, is completely different. Essentially, and I'm sorry for being too blunt here, but many threads are turning into most of us telling him, in one way or another, how stupid his posts are.

You just admitted to spending many threads calling me stupid. You are lucky that I don't point out the number of your posts that I consider to be stupid. See, that's the difference between you and me. I accept the opinion of others, while you mock others for having an opinion that differs to your own. That's the childish approach to debate (not really debate) that you've chosen.

I don't mock others' opinion that differs from mine. I mock yours. Big difference.

And please, do point out my posts that you think are stupid from now on. Smarten me up.

I post about tennis. You should too, seeing as this is a tennis forum. Mocking people for having an opinion?.....What is the point of that?

...to point out how silly said opinion is.

I've heard of certain forums that have auto 'filter' which takes out things too stupid, or too biased or both.

 

[Moxie]

You just admitted to spending many threads calling me stupid. You are lucky that I don't point out the number of your posts that I consider to be stupid. See, that's the difference between you and me. I accept the opinion of others, while you mock others for having an opinion that differs to your own. That's the childish approach to debate (not really debate) that you've chosen.

I don't mock others' opinion that differs from mine. I mock yours. Big difference.

And please, do point out my posts that you think are stupid from now on. Smarten me up.

I post about tennis. You should too, seeing as this is a tennis forum. Mocking people for having an opinion?.....What is the point of that?

...to point out how silly said opinion is.

I've heard of certain forums that have auto 'filter' which takes out things too stupid, or too biased or both.

And you can go there: thesoundofcrickets.com

You'd be the only one. :snigger

 

[Ricardo]

I don't mock others' opinion that differs from mine. I mock yours. Big difference.

And please, do point out my posts that you think are stupid from now on. Smarten me up.

I post about tennis. You should too, seeing as this is a tennis forum. Mocking people for having an opinion?.....What is the point of that?

...to point out how silly said opinion is.

I've heard of certain forums that have auto 'filter' which takes out things too stupid, or too biased or both.

And you can go there: thesoundofcrickets.com

You'd be the only one. :snigger

i'll go, you coming?

 

[Moxie]

I post about tennis. You should too, seeing as this is a tennis forum. Mocking people for having an opinion?.....What is the point of that?

...to point out how silly said opinion is.

I've heard of certain forums that have auto 'filter' which takes out things too stupid, or too biased or both.

And you can go there: thesoundofcrickets.com

You'd be the only one. :snigger

i'll go, you coming?

All right. I got some watermelon. We can stare at the fireflies.

 

[Denis]

Ok I read this a while ago, but couldn't get myself to login for it. Nalbandian's retirement did.

Let me say this. I intend only to contribute during the Slams and maybe during the clay season in Europe. I just don't have sufficient time anymore to post more I am afraid.

I will be back during the AO and maybe during the WTF.

Posting during the GS has the additional advantage of avoiding pointless discussions with Kieran who turns everything into being about 'young Ralph'. The discussion during Wimbledon made me realize I was spending too much time here. I also hope this Nadal2005-troll will have left the boards by the time the AO starts.

On the others: this is probably the time of the season where everybody takes a break. Things will pick up again at the AO.

@tented: I do like tennis. :nono

 

[Kieran]

Young Ralph's not a tennis topic? :huh:

But good to see you back, gratuitous namecheck and all. Didn't know you were so sensitive. None of the Djokolites were, when he was hoovering up Young Ralph...

 

[Denis]

Young Ralph's not a tennis topic? :huh:

But good to see you back, gratuitous namecheck and all. Didn't know you were so sensitive. None of the Djokolites were, when he was hoovering up Young Ralph...

You know which discussion I am referring to. Not sensitive, just changed my priorities on what I should be doing. Anyway, since I am here, what is your estimation of Nadal winning the WTF? Might be his biggest chance yet. Last big prize that is missing...

 

[Kieran]

Young Ralph's not a tennis topic? :huh:

But good to see you back, gratuitous namecheck and all. Didn't know you were so sensitive. None of the Djokolites were, when he was hoovering up Young Ralph...

You know which discussion I am referring to. Not sensitive, just changed my priorities on what I should be doing. Anyway, since I am here, what is your estimation of Nadal winning the WTF? Might be his biggest chance yet. Last big prize that is missing...

I don't know which discussion you're referring to, or why you say it's cos of me you avoid the board, or post while I'm not here. You should have let me know in private that you have a problem with me.

You see, the Djoker fans are getting a sing-while-you're-winning reputation. If he beats Rafa handily in China, we'll see Mastoor and a few others around here again. For the record, I ran a thread about Djoker and Fibak, to try encourage non-Fedal discussions.

As for the WTF, I'd prefer he wins Oz, but I'd gladly take both...

 

[Denis]

I don't care about the reputation. I am telling you why I don't post as much as I used to on a post YOU created asking where all the Djokovic fans are.

Anyway, I'm curious about this years WTF, I think Nadal has a really good shot. High on confidence, great year, weaker competition with the Fedster walking on his last legs, Murray out, and Djokovic struggling a bit in big matches...

 

[Kieran]

I don't care about the reputation. I am telling you why I don't post as much as I used to on a post YOU created asking where all the Djokovic fans are.

And I'm curious about why you singled me out as an influence on when you post.

Anyway, I'm curious about this years WTF, I think Nadal has a really good shot. High on confidence, great year, weaker competition with the Fedster walking on his last legs, Murray out, and Djokovic struggling a bit in big matches...

I know, it could almost be the Federer years again, with all that weaker competition... :

 

[Denis]

I don't care about the reputation. I am telling you why I don't post as much as I used to on a post YOU created asking where all the Djokovic fans are.

And I'm curious about why you singled me out as an influence on when you post.

Anyway, I'm curious about this years WTF, I think Nadal has a really good shot. High on confidence, great year, weaker competition with the Fedster walking on his last legs, Murray out, and Djokovic struggling a bit in big matches...

I know, it could almost be the Federer years again, with all that weaker competition... :

:lolz: you got me with that last one. Seriously though, Rafa is not at his best indoors, and I was comparing it to the years before in relation to the WTF. No discredit to his year so far.

Singled you out because it is the truth. The 'great matches' at Wimbledon thread made me lose my appetite to post here as often as I did. Or, to be more precise, made me conscious I wanted to post less and do other things. I'll be around, just less frequently.

 

[Kieran]

Singled you out because it is the truth. The 'great matches' at Wimbledon thread made me lose my appetite to post here as often as I did. Or, to be more precise, made me conscious I wanted to post less and do other things. I'll be around, just less frequently.

Lovely. You coulda told me that in a pm, though I'm still at a loss as to what you're referring to. I doubt I posted anything different to anyone else here. You should have been around when Djoker was on his best, and been a Rafa fan. Personally speaking, it didn't bother me, because I knew it wouldn't last...

 

[Denis]

It wasn't going to last, just as Rafa's dominance now. So you better enjoy it

 

[Kieran]

All the more reason why the Djokolites shouldn't scarper and hide after every defeat. It's only sport and nothing lasts forever...

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

ive seen mastoor lurking around the comments section underneath articles on tennis.com..

anyhow I'm a djokovic fan and I didn't buggeroff..but could be because im a fan of the so-called big 4..

I could be a rabid djokofreak...if you feel you are missing out.

whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa juzz ewe wafa clownz wait,

ur boy iz gonna git his hole kicked into da river thames at the WTF
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

ur boi the topspin monkey gunna git waystid and end up crying in his fishing tub

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa sitonityoumugs..