What on Earth is going on in the world today? It's gone mad

[Carol]

Stakhovsky really wants to fight

 

[britbox]

Good ole Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum announcing the end of humanity as we know it.




Very proud to announce that the WEF has penetrated the cabinets of governments around the world.




Conspiracy theory? No, just a conspiracy... and by the looks of it, going to plan, albeit two or three months behind schedule.

WEF Graduates since 2005:

WEF and their 'Young Global Leaders' program, who's on the list?

The WEF's tentacles reach far and wide, positioning their grip on many industries, media and governments through their Young Global Leaders program. Although they do not publicly advertise all of their young leaders, here's some notable examples of past nominees - you'll recognise many names and...

www.informedchoiceaustralia.com

This doesn't even include the class of the 90s inc Merkel, Blair etc...

 

[Kieran]

Good ole Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum announcing the end of humanity as we know it.




Very proud to announce that the WEF has penetrated the cabinets of governments around the world.




Conspiracy theory? No, just a conspiracy... and by the looks of it, going to plan, albeit two or three months behind schedule.

WEF Graduates since 2005:

WEF and their 'Young Global Leaders' program, who's on the list?

The WEF's tentacles reach far and wide, positioning their grip on many industries, media and governments through their Young Global Leaders program. Although they do not publicly advertise all of their young leaders, here's some notable examples of past nominees - you'll recognise many names and...

www.informedchoiceaustralia.com

This doesn't even include the class of the 90s inc Merkel, Blair etc...

He's got the accent down to a T, hasn't he? Ve haff vays off mekking you tokk. Und ve haff de tekknol-ogy to make super mens.

Creepy old git...

 

[britbox]

He's got the accent down to a T, hasn't he? Ve haff vays off mekking you tokk. Und ve haff de tekknol-ogy to make super mens.

Creepy old git...

It's reminiscent of the old-school Bond villain. He just needs a white cat, black leather chair with buttons on, and maybe an eye patch to round off the look.

 

[britbox]

Maybe a couple of years behind the curve, but a few comedians picking this up.

 

[tented]

Maybe a couple of years behind the curve, but a few comedians picking this up.

I’m quite familiar with Yuval Harari, first shown about 3.5 minutes into this video. His statements are being taken way out of context here, and highly edited which is obvious, to make it seem as if he’s an advocate for hacking humans. He’s not. If anything, he warns people that it is a coming possibility by corporations with too much power. Someone who purposefully twists Harari’s words to this extent immediately loses any sense of legitimacy.

What they’ve done to him here is the same as if someone put me in a video saying “Cigarettes aren’t bad. Some doctors even say they’re good for you” — excerpted from a video in which I actually said “There used to be advertisements which claimed ‘cigarettes aren’t bad. Some doctors even say they‘re good for you’ — outrageous statements which were allowed for years.”

 

[britbox]

I’m quite familiar with Yuval Harari, first shown about 3.5 minutes into this video. His statements are being taken way out of context here, and highly edited which is obvious, to make it seem as if he’s an advocate for hacking humans. He’s not. If anything, he warns people that it is a coming possibility by corporations with too much power. Someone who purposefully twists Harari’s words to this extent immediately loses any sense of legitimacy.

What they’ve done to him here is the same as if someone put me in a video saying “Cigarettes aren’t bad. Some doctors even say they’re good for you” — excerpted from a video in which I actually said “There used to be advertisements which claimed ‘cigarettes aren’t bad. Some doctors even say they‘re good for you’ — outrageous statements which were allowed for years.”

I'm familiar with Yuval Harari also - I think we discussed him on this forum before. He's written some very thought provoking books, and I've also watched his appearances on various WEF technical panels.

However, I think he's way beyond talking about the coming possibility of hacking - he knows it's inevitable and it's happening right now. Humans have always been susceptible to being hacked psychologically. Now we are seeing it on a mass scale physically. Moderna's operating system is named the "Software of Life" - it's a platform.

Everything SMART is about surveillance, tracking, and control. Think in terms of Huxley's Brave New World. Listen carefully to Schwab - he's open about it. Then look into the family background of some of these characters.

Events are not usually random. Most of them are by design. Look at the chasm of division in the United States right now. That didn't happen organically. Divide and Conquer - Sun Tzu. Schwab openly boasts about having penetrated cabinets of governments around the world. Mention it, and it's a "conspiracy theory" (who invented that term, I wonder?). World events are dictated by conspiracy, and almost certainly at levels way higher than Schwab and Co., who are more likely front men.

 

[Federberg]

I can't begin to express to you how consequential I think these last few months have been. The Russian invasion of Ukraine, and more specifically the West's response with the effective cancellation of Russian reserves is like a double whammy. I would say it's both like the fall of the Berlin Wall and also the US withdrawal from Bretton Woods. I'm not saying it's as big as each of these events separately. I'm saying it's as big as the two of those events combined.

What does it mean? It means the end definitive end of globalisation as we know it. It means the end of the petro-dollar financial system. It means the end of...'the end of the cold war'. I'm not being hyperbolic by saying it could be when historians say WW3 officially started. I always want to be optimistic, and I'll try to describe what my optimistic view looks like, just to give you a sense of how bad things could get from here...

No current account surplus country can look at what happened to Russia without understanding that the days when they automatically parked their surplus in US (in the main) and other G7 treasury bonds is over. You cannot do that anymore without understanding that you effectively don't own your own reserves. Your reserves can be taken from you at the whim of the West. When we talk about something like this, we're effectively looking at China. At the moment they have $3-4trn in reserves. They will not allow this to grow. But the amounts are too vast to do anything dramatic without risking global financial collapse. So I'm thinking they will over time allow their bonds to mature and move their cash into assets that are outside of the control of the West. But the obvious question to ask next is where do you park funds of that type of magnitude? The obvious answer would be commodities. Gold, rare earth metals, grains. But as I said before you can't do that quickly otherwise these commodities will rise exponentially. I think what we can expect is that we will see a natural floor level for these commodities over time. Meanwhile, the US will see the diminution of it's global reserve currency status. Higher interest rates, weaker currency etc. It might not sound like a big deal, but it's huge.

The last time a global reserve currency lost it's status was pound sterling after the Great War. But it took decades, WW2, until we could definitively say that pound sterling had been dethroned by US dollars. I don't know how long it will take this time, certainly more than 10years. But the status of the dollar as global reserve is ending. And the geopolitical instability that comes with this is unknown but certain. Who knows crypto might (probably will) have a part in all this. It's hard to tell right now. But something absolutely seismic is happening right now...

 

[Federberg]

This is just maddening....

Why Germany Won’t Keep Its Nuclear Plants Open

Priorities

unchartedterritories.tomaspueyo.com

 

[Moxie]

Florida bans math books for teaching Critical Race Theory. Seriously. You can google it yourself.

Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

The rejected books make up a record 41% of the 132 books submitted for review, the Florida Department of Education said in a statement.

www.npr.org

 

[Kieran]

Florida bans math books for teaching Critical Race Theory. Seriously. You can google it yourself.

Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

The rejected books make up a record 41% of the 132 books submitted for review, the Florida Department of Education said in a statement.

www.npr.org

There are lunatics in America who say that mathematics is racism so I wouldn’t be surprised if CRT found its way into a maths book…

 

[Moxie]

There are lunatics in America who say that mathematics is racism so I wouldn’t be surprised if CRT found its way into a maths book…

I don't think you understand what CRT is, though most don't. There has long been a conversation if there is prejudice in math teaching, including gender bias, but that's not about what's in the book.

 

[Kieran]

I don't think you understand what CRT is, though most don't. There has long been a conversation if there is prejudice in math teaching, including gender bias, but that's not about what's in the book.

Why do you think I don't understand what it is? I haven't commented on it...

EDITED: by the way, I’ll not saying they were right to ban the books. They haven’t named the books in question, but their statement says:

The instructional materials process allows Florida to prevent publishers from incorporating inappropriate, ineffective, or unsolicited concepts and strategies into instructional materials that will dilute the quality of Florida’s nationally-recognized education system.

In 2019, Governor DeSantis issued Executive Order 19-32 to set Florida on the path to eliminate Common Core, develop world-class education standards, and increase the quality of instructional materials, and this textbook adoption is another important step in affirming Florida’s commitment to high-quality, lawful and world class instruction.

In 2021, the Florida Department of Education (FDOE) called for bids from publishers to submit proposed mathematics instructional materials to be included on the state’s adopted list. Florida has been clear that instructional materials must first and foremost be aligned to Florida’s new B.E.S.T. Standards. In fact, FDOE proactively informed publishers in June 2021 that textbooks must align to the B.E.S.T. Standards, state laws regarding required instruction, and that they should not incorporate unsolicited strategies such as SEL in their instructional materials.

It seems they have a criteria which the books haven’t met?

 

[Moxie]

Why do you think I don't understand what it is? I haven't commented on it...

Because if you think it can be in an elementary school math book, then I think you don't understand what it is.

EDITED: by the way, I’ll not saying they were right to ban the books. They haven’t named the books in question, but their statement says:



It seems they have a criteria which the books haven’t met?

But see above in what I posted. There are numerous others, too, that will tell you the legislators have made reference to critical race theory, not just some vagueness of not meeting their standards.

Florida Dept. of Education Rejects Math Books for ‘Attempts to Indoctrinate Students'

The Florida Department of Education has rejected 54 math textbooks after claiming publishers were trying to “indoctrinate students” with references to Critical Race Theory and other topics. In a statement Friday, the Department of Education said 54 of 132 submitted textbooks, about 41%, were...

www.nbcmiami.com

 

[Kieran]

Because if you think it can be in an elementary school math book, then I think you don't understand what it is.

No, what I think is that there’s enough race and gender “innovation” in America that nothing seems impossible.

But see above in what I posted. There are numerous others, too, that will tell you the legislators have made reference to critical race theory, not just some vagueness of not meeting their standards.

Florida Dept. of Education Rejects Math Books for ‘Attempts to Indoctrinate Students'

The Florida Department of Education has rejected 54 math textbooks after claiming publishers were trying to “indoctrinate students” with references to Critical Race Theory and other topics. In a statement Friday, the Department of Education said 54 of 132 submitted textbooks, about 41%, were...

www.nbcmiami.com

It would certainly be helpful if they pointed to the books they’re banning, and outlined clearly where the problems are, but the statement clearly says that the books don’t meet the standards they set…

 

[Moxie]

No, what I think is that there’s enough race and gender “innovation” in America that nothing seems impossible.

I'm not sure what that means.

Look, I'm not trying to be some smarty-pants about Critical Race Theory. But I have tried to do some homework on it. CRT was, up until recently, a fairly esoteric concept taught and discussed only in graduate studies. Not even discussed at the undergraduate level. But the right-wing in the US somehow got wind of it, dumbed it down, turned it into something else, and has weaponized it against the Democrats, and most especially the progressives. CRT is a "theory." (The "T.") The theory that there is a system of racism in this country, the US, that goes back through slavery, up through Jim Crow, and pervades the the US in a way that goes beyond individual racism. It is an intellectual discussion, and IMO, not without merit. The right-wing in the US seems to have taken the "C" of it, the "critical" and turned it to mean "critical against white people." Even though we all know that "critical" in academic-speak means "investigative." (That's a bit of tongue-in-cheek, but not totally.) The right-wing in this country has begun to embrace anew a racism, having much to do with the "browning" of America, and the overtly racist presidency of Donald Trump. (Much of this a reaction to the election of Barack Obama.)

Racism generally trades in a zero-sum game. If the "others" get more, "we" (the white people) get less. There is never any room for the notion that unity lifts all boats. (This has long been a capitalist way of keeping the underclass divided against itself, lest they rise up. See: unionization.) This recent iteration of fear-mongering is to tell middle-class white people that their children will be taught a version of US history that maybe isn't as sanitize as, say, the one I grew up with. Here is where the zero-sum game comes in: if we tell more Black history than we used to, or if we tell ourselves the truth about slavery, then white kids will be made to feel bad about themselves. That if we tell the whole story about this country, Black, hispanic and native peoples, we take something away from white people. This is what the right in this country is calling "Critical Race Theory," and they're using it to demand how history is taught in this country. They are threatening teachers, who suddenly don't know what they can say in classrooms. They are banning books (or trying to,) in schools and in public libraries, in some last gasp effort to pretend that this is a Christian nation made for white people. In an effort to return to the 50s when they ran the place, pretending that "Leave it to Beaver" was some American ideal.

The culture wars are one thing, but racism is another. And this "CRT" business is nothing but racism. And political posturing by those who want to win their next election. You are trying to be open-minded that perhaps the math books didn't meet certain standards, but it is clear that the Florida politicians are making it about more than math or standards. This is my opinion, and you don't have to believe me.

 

[Kieran]

I'm not sure what that means.

Look, I'm not trying to be some smarty-pants about Critical Race Theory. But I have tried to do some homework on it. CRT was, up until recently, a fairly esoteric concept taught and discussed only in graduate studies. Not even discussed at the undergraduate level. But the right-wing in the US somehow got wind of it, dumbed it down, turned it into something else, and has weaponized it against the Democrats, and most especially the progressives. CRT is a "theory." (The "T.") The theory that there is a system of racism in this country, the US, that goes back through slavery, up through Jim Crow, and pervades the the US in a way that goes beyond individual racism. It is an intellectual discussion, and IMO, not without merit. The right-wing in the US seems to have taken the "C" of it, the "critical" and turned it to mean "critical against white people." Even though we all know that "critical" in academic-speak means "investigative." (That's a bit of tongue-in-cheek, but not totally.) The right-wing in this country has begun to embrace anew a racism, having much to do with the "browning" of America, and the overtly racist presidency of Donald Trump. (Much of this a reaction to the election of Barack Obama.)

Racism generally trades in a zero-sum game. If the "others" get more, "we" (the white people) get less. There is never any room for the notion that unity lifts all boats. (This has long been a capitalist way of keeping the underclass divided against itself, lest they rise up. See: unionization.) This recent iteration of fear-mongering is to tell middle-class white people that their children will be taught a version of US history that maybe isn't as sanitize as, say, the one I grew up with. Here is where the zero-sum game comes in: if we tell more Black history than we used to, or if we tell ourselves the truth about slavery, then white kids will be made to feel bad about themselves. That if we tell the whole story about this country, Black, hispanic and native peoples, we take something away from white people. This is what the right in this country is calling "Critical Race Theory," and they're using it to demand how history is taught in this country. They are threatening teachers, who suddenly don't know what they can say in classrooms. They are banning books (or trying to,) in schools and in public libraries, in some last gasp effort to pretend that this is a Christian nation made for white people. In an effort to return to the 50s when they ran the place, pretending that "Leave it to Beaver" was some American ideal.

The culture wars are one thing, but racism is another. And this "CRT" business is nothing but racism. And political posturing by those who want to win their next election. You are trying to be open-minded that perhaps the math books didn't meet certain standards, but it is clear that the Florida politicians are making it about more than math or standards. This is my opinion, and you don't have to believe me.

Thanks for that. I’ve read the Democrat view of this before, and I appreciate the recap, but the issue in Florida seems to be a lack of transparency in the matter of which books were banned, and most particularly why. CRT is only one of the issues they have, but they haven’t said which books they found it in. Some of the book authors have also asked for clarity, so we can assume they have only been told blankly that their book hasn’t met the standard, but no more. This is something I’d have a problem with, from a practical perspective, because of course a person with an aim to educate can more easy align their books with the state curriculum if they know what the problem was…

 

[Moxie]

Thanks for that. I’ve read the Democrat view of this before, and I appreciate the recap, but the issue in Florida seems to be a lack of transparency in the matter of which books were banned, and most particularly why. CRT is only one of the issues they have, but they haven’t said which books they found it in. Some of the book authors have also asked for clarity, so we can assume they have only been told blankly that their book hasn’t met the standard, but no more. This is something I’d have a problem with, from a practical perspective, because of course a person with an aim to educate can more easy align their books with the state curriculum if they know what the problem was…

I don't mind if you find my "recap" to be just the Democratic version. And you are reasonable to ask why these books are being banned.

 

[Kieran]

I don't mind if you find my "recap" to be just the Democratic version. And you are reasonable to ask why these books are being banned.

Well this is the question, isn’t it? If they say they found CRT in the books, or anything else they don’t like, I think they should point out which books it’s in, and in what form. As for your recap, I didn’t say that to be dismissive or insulting. Your view aligns perfectly with your political allegiance, however, and I’ve read other opposing views that align perfectly with other opposing political allegiances. I’ve also read views from liberals who attack CRT. This is the nature of things, I suppose…

 

[Moxie]

@Front242, I'm going to respond to you here, to get the French elections out of the ATP General News thread. You posted:

"I'm really not sure why so much is made of Le Pen being supposedly so far-right. Macron is a complete pos who showed during the last 2 years with covid you're only free in France when you do what he tells you to do. He's a fascist pos. The way he spoke to his country during covid was a disgrace. Neither are great candidates but there you go, that's politicians for you."

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Does "National Front" mean nothing to you. OK, they changed the name and have tried to tone down some of the more extremist views, but I'm not sure where you get off saying "supposedly so far-right." And then you call Macron a fascist.