US Politics Thread

[britbox]

lol! I just had a look at twitter. I see you're doing your usual of accusing me of being woke. That's identity politics in it's own way. You do realise that don't you?

I'm not sure I'm any more woke than you. I believe we both disapprove of racism. I think we're both contemptuous of tiny dicked men who choose misogyny over dialectic with women. We both share similar views about transgenderism. I'm almost certainly more financially conservative than you, but that's no great shakes, I'm a former trader at a hedge fund and run a financial services business so that's only natural. So where does the wokeness come from on my part? Believing in the science of global warming rather than the tin foil hattery of the Murdoch/Koch brigade? Or believing that Brexit would put the UK at an economic disadvantage? Well sign me up mate. Coz if the best you can do is throw that silly label at me, then that is just weak sauce

No, you missed the beat. She's really the exact opposite of Woke. It's a parody... one of the best on Twitter to be honest. She's been banned on numerous occasions for being so good. I was talking in terms of literalism. I'm hitting the sack now... to be continued.

 

[tented]

Lol.... do you follow Titania McGrath on Twitter by any chance? and take her literally?

She’s a genius.

 

[britbox]

She’s a genius.

Yes, she is one of the funniest accounts you'll ever read on Twitter for parody.

 

[Federberg]

 

[britbox]

This is quite interesting, where do you fit on the political spectrum? Not directing to anybody, in particular, just a group thing.

The Political Compass

self-test of your position on 2 political dimensions

www.politicalcompass.org

Have a go, it might surprise you.

 

[britbox]

My score was this, which was quite surprising to me.

 

[calitennis127]

Quite an impressive presentation from Schiff yesterday..

If you are an idiot who believes every establishment Democrat talking point, such as that Trump's meeting with Putin in Helsinki was treasonous or that Trump won in 2016 because of Russian interference. And guess who is that kind of idiot? Federbergy is!

 

[calitennis127]

The reason it was a farce was that it was totally politically motivated. It wasn't meant to prove Russian interference, it was meant to link Trump to Russian interference. You only have to analyze the transcripts of the FBI agents involved in the "investigation" to realize it was a farce from the beginning.

Exactly right, Britbox. And did you see this latest report from The Wall Street Journal yesterday?

It is frankly hilarious to see Federberg talking as though he is the rational one who can't be duped by wacky conspiracy theories, yet that is exactly what he is. Everything he believes about Russian interference in the election to help Trump is a tin-foil conspiracy theory.

This story is only the tip of the iceberg:

Justice Department Believes It Should Have Ended Surveillance of Trump Adviser Earlier

The Justice Department now believes it should have discontinued its secret surveillance of one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page far earlier than it did, according to a new court filing unsealed Thursday.

The Justice Department made that determination in a December letter to the secret court that oversees surveillance of suspected foreign spies, acknowledging it may have lacked probable cause to continue wiretapping in the last two of the four surveillance applications it sought against Mr. Page.

Justice Department Believes It Should Have Ended Surveillance of Trump Adviser Earlier

The Justice Department now believes it should have discontinued its secret surveillance of one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page far earlier than it did, according to a new court filing unsealed.

www.wsj.com

 

[britbox]

Exactly right, Britbox. And did you see this latest report from The Wall Street Journal yesterday?

It is frankly hilarious to see Federberg talking as though he is the rational one who can't be duped by wacky conspiracy theories, yet that is exactly what he is. Everything he believes about Russian interference in the election to help Trump is a tin-foil conspiracy theory.

This story is only the tip of the iceberg:

Justice Department Believes It Should Have Ended Surveillance of Trump Adviser Earlier

The Justice Department now believes it should have discontinued its secret surveillance of one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page far earlier than it did, according to a new court filing unsealed Thursday.

The Justice Department made that determination in a December letter to the secret court that oversees surveillance of suspected foreign spies, acknowledging it may have lacked probable cause to continue wiretapping in the last two of the four surveillance applications it sought against Mr. Page.

Justice Department Believes It Should Have Ended Surveillance of Trump Adviser Earlier

The Justice Department now believes it should have discontinued its secret surveillance of one-time Trump campaign adviser Carter Page far earlier than it did, according to a new court filing unsealed.

www.wsj.com

Who authorized the wiretapping at that level?

 

[calitennis127]

Yes indeed.. who cares about the FBI? The entire premise of what you're saying is that the FBI was political. That's hogwash and I think you know it.

Lol.....the FBI definitely was political you doofus. All the evidence points in that direction.....a multitude of errors and omissions found by Horowitz as well as a doctored email, plus McCabe lying three times under oath and getting fired.

Sure... individuals at the FBI might have involved themselves in political commentary while at work (and yes I did read the transcripts... yawn!). Newflash that happens all the time, everywhere. That's weak assed excuse making to enable you to leap to the far more serious issue (and the only one that matters) that it affected the institutions operations.

17 errors and omissions found for the 4 FISA applications by the Horowitz report, plus a doctored email by FBI agent Kline-Smith to make Carter Page sound bad, plus Andrew McCabe lying three times under oath.

All evidence that the institution's operations were affected.

There is no evidence of that, as recent investigations have shown.

Lol.....here is just some of the evidence, yet again for you:

17 errors and omissions found for the 4 FISA applications by the Horowitz report, plus a doctored email by FBI agent Kline-Smith to make Carter Page sound bad, plus Andrew McCabe lying three times under oath.

 

[calitennis127]

Who authorized the wiretapping at that level?

The FISA court. And the Inspector General report released in December found that the FBI brass that Federberg is defending lied and omitted material information dozens of times to the FISA court to get warrants. For Federberg to say that there is no evidence that the FBI leadership had corrupt intentions or that their operations were affected by their bias is beyond laughable. It shows that he hasn't followed the stories closely and is only swallowing the cover-up of CNN and the BBC for the reality. The Horowitz report was astonishingly damning:

DOJ inspector general finds 17 'significant errors or omissions' in Carter Page FISA applications

DOJ inspector general finds 17 ‘significant errors or omissions’ in Carter Page FISA applications - Washington Examiner

The Justice Department watchdog excoriated the FBI for relying upon British ex-spy Christopher Steele's dossier in obtaining Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants to monitor onetime Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who released a report on Monday...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[britbox]

Hey @calitennis127

Have a pop at this (only takes 5 minutes).

US Politics Thread

lol! I just had a look at twitter. I see you're doing your usual of accusing me of being woke. That's identity politics in it's own way. You do realise that don't you? I'm not sure I'm any more woke than you. I believe we both disapprove of racism. I think we're both contemptuous of tiny dicked...

www.tennisfrontier.com

 

[Federberg]

here you go...

 

[calitennis127]

Hey @calitennis127

Have a pop at this (only takes 5 minutes).

US Politics Thread

lol! I just had a look at twitter. I see you're doing your usual of accusing me of being woke. That's identity politics in it's own way. You do realise that don't you? I'm not sure I'm any more woke than you. I believe we both disapprove of racism. I think we're both contemptuous of tiny dicked...

www.tennisfrontier.com

That's an interesting exam, but some of those prompts are worded so simplistically that you can answer differently based on the day.

Your Political Compass Economic Left/Right: 1.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

 

[calitennis127]

here you go...

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No wonder you are a CNN fanboy.

 

[calitennis127]

But he's an interesting read because he has an opinion and takes the time to make a case for it... whether you agree with it or not. As do you actually... but I'm not going to blow sunshine up your arse, at least not in this thread

I really don't think Federberg takes the time to research these topics closely. He didn't even know about the findings of the Horowitz report (17 errors and omissions for 4 FISA applications) or the doctored Kline-Smith email about Carter Page. All he does is repeat exactly what CNN or BBC tell him to believe without questioning it.

 

[tented]

My score was this, which was quite surprising to me.

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[Federberg]

No wonder you are a CNN fanboy.

I wish you would wonder you daft prick. How is mine much different from @britbox... moron!

 

[britbox]

I wish you would wonder you daft prick. How is mine much different from @britbox... moron!

You were correct with the assumption about being more economically conservative than me. I have done this test before and from memory I think I was maybe one or two points further to the right. I'm not sure if the questions changed or if I was just in a slightly different frame of mind when answering.

The Authoritarian/Libertarian scores are a little bit more difficult to decipher.

Interesting stuff, even if it's only a bit of fun.

 

[Federberg]

You were correct with the assumption about being more economically conservative than me. I have done this test before and from memory I think I was maybe one or two points further to the right. I'm not sure if the questions changed or if I was just in a slightly different frame of mind when answering.

The Authoritarian/Libertarian scores are a little bit more difficult to decipher.

Interesting stuff, even if it's only a bit of fun.

I actually suspect that sometimes the interpretation of some of our answers are probably incorrect. These days I find that in economic debates rich people seem to advocate socialism for themselves and pure capitalism for the poor. This often pollutes the interpretations