US Politics Thread

[Front242]

Michelle Obama's odds dropped like a rock today from 13/2 to 4/1 with many bookies. Biden isn't gonna stay in till November.

 

[Moxie]

The main thing you should really have caught from the article isn't about the documents but about the state of his mental health and memory...

He's been lying about his son Beau's death for ages too saying he died in Iraq when he died of cancer..

 

[Moxie]

Michelle Obama's odds dropped like a rock today from 13/2 to 4/1 with many bookies. Biden isn't gonna stay in till November.

See above. Where are these "bookies" you mention? Because we don't have that kind of betting in the US. So...what do THEY know? Jaysus.

 

[Federberg]

The main thing you should really have caught from the article isn't about the documents but about the state of his mental health and memory...

He's been lying about his son Beau's death for ages too saying he died in Iraq when he died of cancer..

Is a Special Counsel qualified to make a determination about someone's mental health or memory?

I'm actually fascinated that on the one hand Biden is accused of using the DoJ to his advantage and at the same time he allows a Comey-like report to come out? I'm guessing that Garland isn't going to be AG in Biden's second term...

 

[tented]

Michelle Obama's odds dropped like a rock today from 13/2 to 4/1 with many bookies. Biden isn't gonna stay in till November.

I don’t know how you or anyone else thinks Michelle Obama — even if she wanted to — could just walk in and get the nomination handed to her. If Biden were either to die or to resign, the VP would become President. It wouldn’t randomly go to Michelle Obama or anyone else. There’s a line of succession clearly delineated in the 25th amendment, which does not include a provision for people becoming president because bets have been placed on them.

 

[Front242]

I clearly see you don't give a shit and that's fine! It seems to be the norm with Biden supporters to overlook the fact that he's a warmongering, senile embarrassment and it's just a case of anyone but Trump. I guess it's like the tennis mentality of anyone but Federer or Djokovic if you're a Nadal fan but the Biden supporters keep deflecting away from the masses of unnecessary deaths he's caused. THAT differs from the tennis analogy of anyone but...

 

[Front242]

See above. Where are these "bookies" you mention? Because we don't have that kind of betting in the US. So...what do THEY know? Jaysus.

You seriously think bookies don't know what they're doing? Some people walk in to bookies but most do online gambling. They take people's money most of the time so they clearly know what they're doing. It's possible to make money obviously with some common sense like backing Ukraine to win Eurovision in 2022 which I did and the bookies rightly had them as favourites. They have Michelle Obama 2nd favourite in the democrats after Biden and that's definitely how most would see it as none of their other candidates have any hope of beating Trump.

 

[Front242]

I don’t know how you or anyone else thinks Michelle Obama — even if she wanted to — could just walk in and get the nomination handed to her. If Biden were either to die or to resign, the VP would become President. It wouldn’t randomly go to Michelle Obama or anyone else. There’s a line of succession clearly delineated in the 25th amendment, which does not include a provision for people becoming president because bets have been placed on them.

No one said it'd be handed to her but she's married to an ex president and would be very popular with the warmongering democrats so she'd naturally get the nod to be the most likely to beat Trump. That's why she's second favourite after Biden for the democrats. That's how it works. They're not going to put forward someone who won't beat Trump.

 

[Moxie]

No one said it'd be handed to her but she's married to an ex president and would be very popular with the warmongering democrats so she'd naturally get the nod to be the most likely to beat Trump. That's why she's second favourite after Biden for the democrats. That's how it works. They're not going to put forward someone who won't beat Trump.

Karl Rove blasts ‘lunacy’ of claims Michelle Obama will replace Biden

Not first time conspiracy has surfaced

www.the-independent.com

 

[Front242]

Karl Rove blasts ‘lunacy’ of claims Michelle Obama will replace Biden

Not first time conspiracy has surfaced

www.the-independent.com

Literally just read this before you posted it and so what ? You'll believe what you want to believe and vice versa.

More bets placed on Michelle Obama than Joe Biden to be next US President

According to Betfair, the former First Lady has had more bets placed on her to be the next US President, compared to incumbent Joe Biden

www.gbnews.com

Michelle Obama tipped to 'sideline Biden' having previously 'polled donors' for presidential bid

The shock move could see the former First Lady snatch the Democratic nomination in August

www.gbnews.com

"The Obamas have “not denied” rumours of a return to the Oval Office, said Cindy Adams in the New York Post.

Adams said: “I broke the story Mrs Obama might run for the highest office in the land. With outlets all repeating my story, the Obamas have not denied it.

“While high-level DC people deny Michelle’s a maybe candidate, several firsthand sources whom she met in 2022 say I am right."

Depends which site you want to believe as always as with any news.

 

[Moxie]

Literally just read this before you posted it and so what ? You'll believe what you want to believe and vice versa.

More bets placed on Michelle Obama than Joe Biden to be next US President

According to Betfair, the former First Lady has had more bets placed on her to be the next US President, compared to incumbent Joe Biden

www.gbnews.com

Michelle Obama tipped to 'sideline Biden' having previously 'polled donors' for presidential bid

The shock move could see the former First Lady snatch the Democratic nomination in August

www.gbnews.com

"The Obamas have “not denied” rumours of a return to the Oval Office, said Cindy Adams in the New York Post.

Adams said: “I broke the story Mrs Obama might run for the highest office in the land. With outlets all repeating my story, the Obamas have not denied it.

“While high-level DC people deny Michelle’s a maybe candidate, several firsthand sources whom she met in 2022 say I am right."

Depends which site you want to believe as always as with any news.

I posted The Independent article because they're pretty right-wing. In fact, almost the only sites that have stories on it are pretty right-wing. The other ones report that the right wing has a conspiracy theory that Michelle Obama will run.

Karl Rove is a serious Republican operative, and he called it "lunacy" on Fox News. Cindy Adams, of the NYPost, is a gossip columnist, FYI. I don't say that to denigrate her in anyway, that's what she is. Her stock in trade is rumor. She's been around for decades...she's 93, btw.

Tented has told you, and Karl Rove says in the above, and as we all know, that Michelle Obama hates politics. It really ISN'T just a question of "which site you want to believe." Common sense has to play into it. Not all sources of information are equally reliable, no matter how much you want to believe them.

 

[Front242]

I posted The Independent article because they're pretty right-wing. In fact, almost the only sites that have stories on it are pretty right-wing. The other ones report that the right wing has a conspiracy theory that Michelle Obama will run.

Karl Rove is a serious Republican operative, and he called it "lunacy" on Fox News. Cindy Adams, of the NYPost, is a gossip columnist, FYI. I don't say that to denigrate her in anyway, that's what she is. Her stock in trade is rumor. She's been around for decades...she's 93, btw.

Tented has told you, and Karl Rove says in the above, and as we all know, that Michelle Obama hates politics. It really ISN'T just a question of "which site you want to believe." Common sense has to play into it. Not all sources of information are equally reliable, no matter how much you want to believe them.

Your mainstream news told you the mRNA gene therapy was safe and effective. It was neither. I realize you're fine after yours and you've had many and I'm glad you are but many were less fortunate and are dead or their immune systems are destroyed. This should be proof enough for most not to trust what most perceive as reliable news sources as governments and media deceived the whole planet for financial greed. Finding trustworthy news is only going to get more and more difficult with the WEF global censorship on what those clowns deem to be misinformation also, ie, going against the narrative.

 

[Moxie]

Your mainstream news told you the mRNA gene therapy was safe. I realize you're fine after yours and you've had many and I'm glad you are but many were less fortunate and are dead or their immune systems are destroyed. This should be proof enough for most not to trust what most perceive as reliable news sources as governments and media deceived the whole planet for financial greed. Finding trustworthy news is only going to get more and more difficult with the WEF global censorship on what those clowns deem to be misinformation also, ie, going against the narrative.

This is the kind of word salad/conflagration of grievances that I find hard to tolerate. I'm discussing a specific thing, and when it doesn't work for you any longer, you just veer off into random right-wing palaver. Either debate the point, or don't. Either defend your sources, or don't.

 

[Front242]

This is the kind of word salad/conflagration of grievances that I find hard to tolerate. I'm discussing a specific thing, and when it doesn't work for you any longer, you just veer off into random right-wing palaver. Either debate the point, or don't. Either defend your sources, or don't.

What exactly is right wing about the truth ? I was first discussing Michelle Obama. You think she won't run and posted your link, I think she will and posted mine. It was debated and I gave sources same as you.

 

[Front242]

One thing's for sure, I'm 100% certain Biden will pull out before November.

 

[Moxie]

What exactly is right wing about the truth ? I was first discussing Michelle Obama. You think she won't run and posted your link, I think she will and posted mine. It was debated and I gave sources same as you.

Every source for Michelle Obama running is right-wing. That's not the "truth," it's rumor, and there is every reason to believe that it's a ludicrous idea. Can you not even accept the idea that she's never been a political animal? It is widely known that she tolerated Barack's ambitions, and was a very good First Lady, but was perfectly happy to be done with it. Some First Ladies were strong politicians and helpmates, like Eleanor Roosevelt, Nancy Reagan, Rosalynn Carter, and Hilary Clinton. Some gritted their teeth and got through it, like Michelle Obama.

 

[Moxie]

One thing's for sure, I'm 100% certain Biden will pull out before November.

Great. If we hold you to that bet, can you stop posting useless crap in the interim? You have made your position clear. If you're right, you can take a victory lap. If you're wrong, you'll have saved Tennis Frontier useless bandwidth.

 

[Front242]

Every source for Michelle Obama running is right-wing. That's not the "truth," it's rumor, and there is every reason to believe that it's a ludicrous idea. Can you not even accept the idea that she's never been a political animal? It is widely known that she tolerated Barack's ambitions, and was a very good First Lady, but was perfectly happy to be done with it. Some First Ladies were strong politicians and helpmates, like Eleanor Roosevelt, Nancy Reagan, Rosalynn Carter, and Hilary Clinton. Some gritted their teeth and got through it, like Michelle Obama.

Here's your quoted text for some context: "This is the kind of word salad/conflagration of grievances that I find hard to tolerate. I'm discussing a specific thing, and when it doesn't work for you any longer, you just veer off into random right-wing palaver. Either debate the point, or don't. Either defend your sources, or don't."

You were calling my tangent regarding the mRNA gene therapies right wing palaver and the reason I cited that as an example was already mentioned, don't believe everything you read on mainstream news 'cos they lie to us constantly. My reply about truth was that it was not safe or effective and that's pretty clear now. I wasn't calling sources about Michelle Obama truth though time will tell what pans out regarding her before November.

 

[Moxie]

Here's your quoted text for some context: "This is the kind of word salad/conflagration of grievances that I find hard to tolerate. I'm discussing a specific thing, and when it doesn't work for you any longer, you just veer off into random right-wing palaver. Either debate the point, or don't. Either defend your sources, or don't."

Your were calling my tangent regarding the mRNA gene therapies right wing palaver and the reason I cited that as an example was already mentioned, don't believe everything you read on mainstream news 'cos they lie to us constantly. My reply about truth was that it was not safe or effective and that's pretty clear now. I wasn't calling sources about Michelle Obama truth though time will tell what pans out regarding her before November.

Right, but when I tell you that even right-wing media and tried-and-true Republicans are telling you it's nonsense, you deflect to otherwise grievances from the far-right that are completely off-topic. Now you say that you're trying to prove that there are otherwise "truths" out there. It's a weak argument. Debate the point.

 

[Front242]

Right, but when I tell you that even right-wing media and tried-and-true Republicans are telling you it's nonsense, you deflect to otherwise grievances from the far-right that are completely off-topic. Now you say that you're trying to prove that there are otherwise "truths" out there. It's a weak argument. Debate the point.

Again, please tell me what far right stuff I deflected to ? I deflected to stuff that is right, yes, as in correct to prove to you not all news is genuine or true and you shouldn't believe everything your news stations or sites tell you. "It didn't kill me or harm me in any way, so therefore it's safe" is basically what many like you have to say on that. Unfortunate this doesn't apply to those who now have long term auto immune problems, heart problems or died suddenly from clots, heart attacks or turbo cancers or all the other unfortunate things it's caused. The excess deaths prove there's a serious issue being swept under the carpet.