US Politics Thread

[Moxie]

I don't think some people will ever get it AP. I'll be honest, in some ways I find this one even more chilling than the George Floyd one. Chauvin is clearly a psychopath. In this case the police officer chats with him for 20minutes. 20 fucking minutes. They know he has no weapon. Yes he resists arrest, but he's running away. And still gets shot in the back. It's unbelievable

Apparently they even knew his sister lived close by. He was drunk. All they had to do was drive him to her house. Instead, he's dead. Shot in the back.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Wow...you got corrected on a couple of misused words a while back, or misunderstandings of the words of others...corrected gently, for clarity of discussion, and now you are a completely insulting dick about every typo and misspelling, including of people's names. You have some thin skin.

Moxie..that right wing neanderthal who lives with his mommy somewhere close to Bakersfield CA doesn't bother me. I remember he got corrected quite a few time. I'm a bigger person than to be a "petty Betty" like Cali.

 

[Moxie]

No, believe it or not Moxie, some people can look at a statue and not have the first thought that comes to mind be "did this guy own slaves?" Those monuments were erected for a variety of reasons, and hardly ever for reasons having to do with slavery. Robert E. Lee, for example, was one of the most admired men in the USA throughout the 20th century. He was praised by, among others, both Roosevelts (Teddy and FDR) as well as Eisenhower. They all spoke glowingly of him and his life. And Teddy Roosevelt was born in New York City. FDR was born in Hyde Park, New York. Northerners gushed over Lee for decades, and their admiration for him had nothing to do with "threatening" black people.

Also, how the hell is it in any way the fault of the statues that in Democrat-run Minneapolis a cop killed George Floyd? What do the two have to do with each other? None of the leaders in Minneapolis even lean right politically. Why can't they take blame for their own failures instead of blaming statues hundreds of miles away?

I didn't say it had to do with slavery, or with them being slave owners. It had to do with defining boundaries and maintaining a threat. You won't read this, or glean anything from it if you do, as you think NPR is some hotbed of liberal yellow journalism, but it could be interesting for other people:

Confederate Statues Were Built To Further A 'White Supremacist Future'

President Trump hasn't mentioned it as he's defended the memorabilia over the past week, but historians say the statues were originally built to send a clear message to black Americans.

www.npr.org

Lee was an intelligent man and a talented general. I don't think anyone disputes that. But he led an insurrection against this country. I don't see why he gets to be commemorated in this day and age. There was a lot of reconciling things with southerners, for the sake of harmony in the union, post-Civl War. But there is a limit, and I'd say we passed it a long time ago. The statues are a symbol of racism, and that's why they rankle. They're not "blamed." They are just no longer wanted.

And btw, as to a previous remark: You say that right-wing extremists were only "rarely" part of instigating violence and looting in the recent unrest. I would say that you have no way of knowing that. Do you have an accounting of who the outside agitators were? Because my understanding is that even the government doesn't.

 

[Moxie]

No, I am not waving the Rebel flag. I am actually from the North. But like fellow Northerners Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt (both native New Yorkers), I recognize that Robert E. Lee was a very talented and admirable individual.

Speaking of deflecting, you still refuse to address how one of the two dynasty families of the Democratic Party (i.e. the Clintons) did the following:

- Designated a special day through law for honoring the Confederate flag each year in Arkansas
- Threatened misdemeanor penalties and fines up to $1,000 for people who violated the law
- Signed a law that stated “The blue star above the word “ARKANSAS” is to commemorate the Confederate States of America.”

Do you want to stop deflecting from this? Maybe you're the one with these 2008 Hillary-for-president pins?

I know you're from the North. Duh. I wasn't deflecting this, but as others have said, you spray so much stuff around, it's hard to address it all at one go. We all only have so much energy, time or attention for you.

As to HRC and the Confederate flag, people evolve. I did mention that it has taken white people longer to realize the offense. Barack Obama was not originally in favor of gay marriage, only civil unions. White supremacists disavow their groups and go on to help others get out of such extremist organizations. I don't see the issue.

I am curious though, as a northerner, why you're so interested in defending the Confederacy.

 

[calitennis127]

And now we see that all the founders are coming down. Caesar Rodney had nothing to do with the Confederates. The Confederacy was only a first step.....

Wilmington removes Caesar Rodney, Christopher Columbus statues Friday amid calls for change
June 12, 2020

Wilmington removes Caesar Rodney, Christopher Columbus statues Friday amid calls for change

Officials say they will store the statues for "an overdue discussion about the public display of historical figures."

www.delawareonline.com

 

[Moxie]

And now we see that all the founders are coming down. Caesar Rodney had nothing to do with the Confederates. The Confederacy was only a first step.....

Wilmington removes Caesar Rodney, Christopher Columbus statues Friday amid calls for change
June 12, 2020

Wilmington removes Caesar Rodney, Christopher Columbus statues Friday amid calls for change

Officials say they will store the statues for "an overdue discussion about the public display of historical figures."

www.delawareonline.com

Are you going to make it about every framer or Confederate, or Columbus rather than just having a conversation? Let's face it: no one remembers Caesar Rodney. But keep posting other peoples' opinions, if you prefer. We've all asked you to get out from behind other folks' opinions and just tell us your own. Are you really trying to back the Confederacy, or are you just being contrarian?

 

[calitennis127]

Are you going to make it about every framer or Confederate, or Columbus rather than just having a conversation?

I have been having a very detailed conversation about a number of issues for days, but you have simply glossed past all of the inconvenient points I have made for your case, such as that only 9 unarmed black males were shot and killed by police in 2019. Please don't accuse me of not engaging in conversation when you have simply ignored so much information that disproves what you believe.

Let's face it: no one remembers Caesar Rodney.

The left-wing cretins who are tearing down monuments all over the country cared enough to attack his statue as a representation of slavery. Don't accuse me of starting the conversation. They are the ones who went after Caesar Rodney.

But if you want to say that Rodney wasn't that significant, how about Thomas Jefferson and George Washington? They just attacked their statues too.

George Washington Statue in Chicago Vandalized With KKK Hood, Graffiti: ‘Burn the White House Down’
Published June 14, 2020

George Washington Statue in Chicago Vandalized With KKK Hood, Graffiti: 'Burn the White House Down' | The Gateway Pundit | by Kristinn Taylor

Vandals in Chicago spray-painted a statue of George Washington overnight with messages in red paint on three sides reading, “Slave Owner!”, “Burn the Whitehouse down” and “God bless AmeriKKKa”, reported Alexis McAdams with WLS-TV, via .

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Leftist Protesters Topple Thomas Jefferson Statue In Portland
June 15, 2020

Leftist Protesters Topple Thomas Jefferson Statue In Portland | The Gateway Pundit | by Brock Simmons

No, nothing is sacred anymore.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

But keep posting other peoples' opinions, if you prefer. We've all asked you to get out from behind other folks' opinions and just tell us your own.

That is laughable. I cite sources to provide data and information to back up my claims and the arguments I am making. I understand that I am in the minority viewpoint on this board, so I am not speaking to an echo chamber like you are.

Are you really trying to back the Confederacy, or are you just being contrarian?

It's not a matter of fully backing the Confederacy or liking everything about it. What I object to is the extent of evil ascribed to it and by the full-on demonization of the Confederacy that has become fashionable, especially in the last 10-15 years. I find this anti-Confederate campaign to be deeply ignorant and not just an attack on the South but an attack on all of American history.

Robert E. Lee was admired as one of the greatest Americans for well over 100 years after he lived by both Northerners and Southerners. Both Roosevelt presidents (Teddy and FDR) spoke glowingly of him, as did Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, and Dwight Eisenhower. Demonizing him as some kind of moral reprobate whose statue is a public disgrace is not just sick, it's downright stupid.

 

[calitennis127]

Wow...you got corrected on a couple of misused words a while back, or misunderstandings of the words of others...corrected gently, for clarity of discussion,

No, this happened on just one occasion when I cited a John Lott article. I have actually corrected you more than you have corrected me when it comes to misspellings and misuse of words. Either way, neither of our errors in any way remotely compare to AntiPusher's repeated butchering of the English language. What's all the more ironic is that he disses people and makes things personal while typing on the level of an elementary school kid. If he is going to insult other people while making such elementary errors, I don't see how it isn't fair to call him out for it.

If you're in the mood to chastise someone, maybe you should tell AntiPusher to stick to the discussions at hand instead of making personal comments about people and asking them to meet him in airports so he can challenge them face-to-face.

and now you are a completely insulting dick about every typo and misspelling, including of people's names. You have some thin skin.

No, I am just responding in kind to the things he says. Being the sensitive leftist that you are, you just hate any pushback at all. That goes back to my point about the use of the term "divisive." If someone on the right advances an idea you disagree with, you call them "divisive." But if someone on the left advances a cause you agree with, you insist that it promotes unity, no matter how many people object to it. It's a huge double standard.

 

[Moxie]

No, this happened on just one occasion when I cited a John Lott article. I have actually corrected you more than you have corrected me when it comes to misspellings and misuse of words. Either way, neither of our errors in any way remotely compare to AntiPusher's repeated butchering of the English language. What's all the more ironic is that he disses people and makes things personal while typing on the level of an elementary school kid. If he is going to insult other people while making such elementary errors, I don't see how it isn't fair to call him out for it.

No, it was more than that, but how are you so puny and pathetic that you care more for correcting grammar than focusing on the pith of the conversation? We have never been a board that did this. It's small and basically unimportant.

If you're in the mood to chastise someone, maybe you should tell AntiPusher to stick to the discussions at hand instead of making personal comments about people and asking them to meet him in airports so he can challenge them face-to-face.

I don't see how you have any way to talk to anyone about personal comments. You have more often met comment with insult than actual fact. Glass houses?

No, I am just responding in kind to the things he says. Being the sensitive leftist that you are, you just hate any pushback at all. That goes back to my point about the use of the term "divisive." If someone on the right advances an idea you disagree with, you call them "divisive." But if someone on the left advances a cause you agree with, you insist that it promotes unity, no matter how many people object to it. It's a huge double standard.

I hate pushback? I fight with you, don't I?

 

[calitennis127]

Lee was an intelligent man and a talented general. I don't think anyone disputes that. But he led an insurrection against this country.

It was not an insurrection. Whatever your opinions of slavery throughout history, the Southern states were complete right on constitutional and historical grounds. You may not know this but in 1813 the New England states tried to secede and no one objected to their right to do so.

The statues are a symbol of racism, and that's why they rankle.

They don't represent "racism" if you have any sort of knowledge of history that goes beyond race obsession at every turn. Of course, that is what defines the modern left. They look at Thomas Jefferson and instead of seeing a great man with a rich life to appreciate, all they see is "slaveowner." That's why they just vandalized his statue in Portland.

They're not "blamed."

Uh no, they are blamed. Every time some racial incident occurs the left screams that every Confederate statue has to go, as though the statues carried out a murder. It is utterly preposterous.

They are just no longer wanted.

By people who have a shallow and ignorant perception of history.

And btw, as to a previous remark: You say that right-wing extremists were only "rarely" part of instigating violence and looting in the recent unrest. I would say that you have no way of knowing that. Do you have an accounting of who the outside agitators were?

Funny to see you ask for evidence when you were never concerned to ask for evidence when it came to the Russians supposedly "hacking" the 2016 election and trying to help Trump win. Why all of a sudden do you care about evidence?

Oh, I know. It's because you are in denial over the obvious reality that enraged left-wing mobs (consisting of both blacks and whites) just torched large parts of numerous major cities. You don't want to own up to it.

And btw, I don't think it was "outside agitators" who caused the problems in Minneapolis. Most of the arrests made were of people from Minneapolis. If there were outside agitators, they were Black Lives Matter and Antifa members traveling the country. Unlike the 29 white supremacists in the hills of Arkansas that you obsess over, Black Lives Matter and Antifa actually have money, funding, and social cachet. They are national movements that make them realistic threats to do damage. The 29 white supremacists in the hills of Arkansas do not have that logistical strength. Once they do, we can talk about them being the same kind of threat.

Because my understanding is that even the government doesn't.

Your understanding is incorrect.

 

[calitennis127]

No, it was more than that, but how are you so puny and pathetic that you care more for correcting grammar than focusing on the pith of the conversation?

That's ridiculous. I always have substance in my posts to go with any personal shots.

We have never been a board that did this. It's small and basically unimportant.

And most of the time I do not care. But if AntiPusher wishes to insult people, then it will invite some reciprocal criticism. Specifically, if he wants to make things personal, then his butchering of the English language is fair game.

I don't see how you have any way to talk to anyone about personal comments. You have more often met comment with insult than actual fact. Glass houses?

More like a solid brick house surrounded by a gate that Antifa rioters can't get past. I put a slew of facts in my posts that you simply have no response for - like the fact that only 0.1% of black male deaths by homicide in 2019 were from police killing unarmed black males.

 

[Moxie]

That's ridiculous. I always have substance in my posts to go with any personal shots.

[/QUOTE]

Like this one? "This entire paragraph is one of the dumbest things I have ever read. It consists of nothing but misconceptions and lies of the left about society and history. And it is a perfect example of why white leftists are, in terms of quality of life, the #1 enemies of black people. There could not have been more effective creatures for inflicting and imposing misery on black people created than white leftists." (Your entire post)

Or this one? 'Oh wow.....you have a smartphone. It must make you feel advanced. I would give you a pass on your misspellings if they didn't occur constantly in your posts. Another inscrutable sentence, but just for clarification, you did not even put an "r" in your first version of his first name. You spelled it "Rashad" instead of "Rashard" or "Rayshard" (it's Rayshard). Again, it just shows the level of subliteracy we're talking about with you and most Democratic Party voters. It's spelled "typo" you moron. Once again - the Democratic Party relies on dumb voters like you for its power. You can't even spell a first name or the word "typo."' (Your entire post)

Or this one? "Lol! You're a dumb fruit and it takes hardly any effort to refute every post you make! Lol! I posted the numerous articles from Heather MacDonald which included data that you and Moxie could not refute! Like only 9 unarmed black males shot and killed by police in 2019! Which accounted for only 0.1% of overall homicides of black males last year! You two had nothing to say because you have no data! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! Lol! " (Your entire post. Just because you declare that you've made a point before doesn't make it a pointless post just full of bile.)

I could go on....

 

[calitennis127]

Follow-up to my last post. Let's try a thought experiment here, to play off your ideological sensitivities. The Minneapolis Star-Tribune just came out with a list of the 600 businesses that either had their property damaged or were outright destroyed by the "peaceful protesters." Now what if I told you that these "peaceful protesters" burned down, among other places, an African hair braiding salon and an Indian restaurant in addition to vandalizing multiple Mexican restaurants?

Well, I know what would happen if they had a right-wing reason for protesting. You would be calling them vicious racists. But apparently it is okay for left-wing "protesters" to burn Indian restaurants, African hair braiding salons, and bookstores to the ground. That's okay. They did it for George Floyd. What a great way to honor a fallen hero. Go and burn down an Indian restaurant! Yeah! That'll show the system!

And, btw, that 200-building figure I gave the other day was a low-ball number. Turns out the number is closer to 600, with 67 completely burned to the ground. But this was just goodwilled "peaceful protesting." Sure.

Buildings damaged in Minneapolis, St. Paul after riots
A look at Twin Cities businesses and buildings hit hard by looting and rioting following the Memorial Day death of George Floyd.

JUNE 9, 2020 — 10:05PM

At least 600 buildings across the Twin Cities have been vandalized, looted or had doors and windows smashed. Some have been reduced to rubble, and at least 67 have been destroyed completely by fire. Others have reported extensive water damage or severe fire damage.

A deeper look at areas most damaged by rioting, looting in Minneapolis, St. Paul

Twin Cities restaurants and retail stores were hit the hardest in the rioting following George Floyd's killing.

www.startribune.com

Example above of a post that included questions Moxie ignored - namely, what would she say if Trump supporters burned down an Indian restaurant, vandalized Mexican restaurants, and burned a bookstore to the ground? Nothing but crickets in response.

Then she wonders why I keep some of my posts brief. When you make so many arguments that go unrefuted and it just feels so easy, sometimes you don't feel the need to refute every line of every post. That's where my mind is right now. But Moxie can rest assured that I will not neglect her posts and I will make sure to continue refuting large parts of them when I have the time.

 

[Moxie]

It was not an insurrection. Whatever your opinions of slavery throughout history, the Southern states were complete right on constitutional and historical grounds. You may not know this but in 1813 the New England states tried to secede and no one objected to their right to do so.

(I'm sure you meant "completely." Mr. Grammar.)

How is it possible that the southern states were completely right on Constitutional grounds to take up arms against the union? Texas v. White. How was it not an insurrection? As to 1813, probably another randomly dug up right-wing talking point, so please illuminate it for us. Or forget it, because it's a straw man. Another thing that no one remembers.

They don't represent "racism" if you have any sort of knowledge of history that goes beyond race obsession at every turn. Of course, that is what defines the modern left. They look at Thomas Jefferson and instead of seeing a great man with a rich life to appreciate, all they see is "slaveowner." That's why they just vandalized his statue in Portland.

I think we still venerate Thomas Jefferson. Don't get your panties THAT twisted up.

Uh no, they are blamed. Every time some racial incident occurs the left screams that every Confederate statue has to go, as though the statues carried out a murder. It is utterly preposterous.
By people who have a shallow and ignorant perception of history.

Again, this is one of those things that you think you can insult-away. No real information. just the way it makes you feel.

Funny to see you ask for evidence when you were never concerned to ask for evidence when it came to the Russians supposedly "hacking" the 2016 election and trying to help Trump win. Why all of a sudden do you care about evidence?

Oh, I know. It's because you are in denial over the obvious reality that enraged left-wing mobs (consisting of both blacks and whites) just torched large parts of numerous major cities. You don't want to own up to it.

Deflection for another day, please. You've never met an argument that you couldn't muddy up with another one. FFS.

Sorry...I got bored before I could reply to the rest. Hasta mañana.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Wow.....this post aged well! Not only were the lockdown protesters proven right by the fact that "cases" went down in Florida and Georgia after their very intelligent Republican governors chose to re-open, but now we have mass protests being engineered by left-wing agitators and cretins that no one is condemning on public health grounds. As usual, Broken was proven to be a dumb, misinformed slave to CNN's hold on the international media.

It is comical to see Broken arrogantly insult right-wing Americans while knowing so little about the United States. It's kind of like seeing AntiPusher pretend to be an adult writer with a solid command of English grammar. In both cases, you have a clueless buffoon running his mouth without any awareness of his shortcomings.

...and 10 days later, 9 states, including Florida, have hit a record high of COVID-19 cases.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/17/coronavirus-live-updates-us/

I've stayed out of the politics zone cause I really can't handle the amount of closeted racism taking place (and I'm not just talking about Cali. Yes, I'm outright saying this), nor the amount of Anti-Pusher stupidity, nor Moxie championing Obama, Biden, Hilary, and co... (btw, "ethical man" Joe Biden said the police should just shoot protesters in the legs instead).

But, it's always fun to pop back in and laugh at you. So yes, here I am, laughing at you. Not for being wrong about COVID (AGAIN), but honestly for being this stupid.

 

[Federberg]

For those who deny systemic/structural racism feast on this...

A Virginia incident reflects the reality of being black in America

Donny Richard Salyers is one of five people charged in the recent alleged assault and hate crime against Pastor Leon K. McCray Sr. in Shenandoah County, Va. (Shenandoah County Sheriff's Office)

By Editorial Board
June 16, 2020 at 12:00 p.m. GMT+1
THE VENOM of American racism is as toxic in major cities as in rural areas, in the North as in the South. African Americans are murdered and brutalized for no good reason; more often they are subjected to uncountable quotidian humiliations.

Last month, it was an African American bird-watcher, Christian Cooper, falsely accused of assault by a white woman in Manhattan’s Central Park; days later, it was a black pastor, Leon K. McCray Sr., arrested in Virginia for the “crime” of defending himself, on his own property, from a rabble of white trespassers.
The Virginia incident took place June 1 in Shenandoah County, an overwhelmingly white area 100 miles west of Washington, where Mr. McCray had confronted two people at an apartment he owns, neither one his tenant, who were dumping a refrigerator on his property. He asked them to leave. One of them returned shortly afterward with three others who he says surrounded, jostled, threatened and taunted him with racist abuse — black lives, they said, don’t matter in Shenandoah County.

Alarmed, Mr. McCray drew his handgun, a weapon he carries legally, keeping them at bay while he called 911. Yet when sheriff’s deputies arrived, it was the black pastor they handcuffed, not his white assailants. “I felt literally like I had been lynched without being killed,” Mr. McCray, who said he had no criminal record, told his congregation in a sermon two Sundays ago at his Lighthouse Church & Marketplace Ministries International in Woodstock, Va.
Full coverage of the George Floyd protests
It is impossible to imagine that scenario playing out in reverse — with the arrest of a lone white man menaced by a throng of hostile black people. With numbing
familiarity, it is African Americans who are victimized by the presumption of guilt.
In the case of Mr. McCray, a 24-year Air Force veteran who retired as a master sergeant, and so many others, that presumption is preposterous. He was the one who was surrounded; he was the one who called 911; he was the one standing on his own land. Like Mr. Cooper, who was within his rights to ask that a white woman leash her dog in compliance with Central Park’s rules, Mr. McCray did nothing wrong. Yet both men faced racial hostility and threats.

Mr. Cooper, who recorded the encounter on his phone, was questioned by police but not arrested. Mr. McCray was released after a few hours, but not before being charged with brandishing a weapon. That charge is now being dropped, according to local authorities, and last Friday Shenandoah County Sheriff Timothy Carter issued an apology.
At this point, Mr. McCray’s five alleged assailants have been arrested and charged — four with felony abduction and all five with a pair of misdemeanor assaults, including assault in a hate crime. That’s a reasonable step, but why wasn’t it taken at the outset? Sheriff Carter offered assurance that he and his office “care about the [county’s] minority communities, and especially our Black community.” Given what happened to Mr. McCray, how would anyone believe him? What will he do, what will Shenandoah County do, to prevent a recurrence?

 

[the AntiPusher]

No, this happened on just one occasion when I cited a John Lott article. I have actually corrected you more than you have corrected me when it comes to misspellings and misuse of words. Either way, neither of our errors in any way remotely compare to AntiPusher's repeated butchering of the English language. What's all the more ironic is that he disses people and makes things personal while typing on the level of an elementary school kid. If he is going to insult other people while making such elementary errors, I don't see how it isn't fair to call him out for it.
AP's response:
Lord have mercy, you are about as dense of a sad sack that I have Ever encountered. For the last time, I do not waste time to respond to your comments when I am on my desktop or laptop. It's usually when I am standing in line waiting for coffee or sitting on the toilet to be honest. As for the grammar or proper sentence structure, fuck you. As I mentioned to you before, it's not the grammar but the content of my messages, you know what the fuck I am talking about otherwise you wouldn't send me rebuttals of useless propanda.


If you're in the mood to chastise someone, maybe you should tell AntiPusher to stick to the discussions at hand instead of making personal comments about people and asking them to meet him in airports so he can challenge them face-to-face.

AP"s response: I am a grown man. Federerberg carries himself like an adult. You are a petulant child that has missed as few ass whippings in life because of lack of attention from family and no real friends to confide in. I took a few courses in human behavior and it's very clear to everyone you suffer from lack of self esteem. You attack women because lack of respect, you attack other's intelligence because you have Never achieved any real Proper high education. You are a complete Racist that is desperately trying to hold on to your "white heritage " because you perceive "there's a threat from someone of color". I would assume that you are a only child or someone who siblings don't give a damn about.

As for meeting someone face to face at an airport, you should admire that I am gracious enough to offer someone an opportunity to have dialogue without hiding behind a keyboard. Hell, I should be your champion but I detest bullies.


No, I am just responding in kind to the things he says. Being the sensitive leftist that you are, you just hate any pushback at all. That goes back to my point about the use of the term "divisive." If someone on the right advances an idea you disagree with, you call them "divisive." But if someone on the left advances a cause you agree with, you insist that it promotes unity, no matter how many people object to it. It's a huge double standard.

There's no double standard or hating of "pushback" . Cali, you only want to engage in competitive banter if it's on your terms.

 

[calitennis127]

...and 10 days later, 9 states, including Florida, have hit a record high of COVID-19 cases.

Because, you fucking moron, hospitals all over the country are admitting more people for elective procedures and optional services as the country re-opens. So they are testing more people, and as I have been saying since mid-March (citing the WSJ journal by two Stanford scientists on March 24th), there are millions of asymptomatic carriers all over the country. It is entirely predictable that there would be an increase in "cases" with more testing. Anyone with a brain would see that.

But here's the rub.....the mortality rate is so low that cases aren't a big deal. Get it now? Good. This just isn't a very deadly disease. Most people who have it don't even feel it or know it because it isn't that severe. And the current case reporting is such a joke that if you go to a hospital for a knee evaluation and test positive for COVID with mild or no symptoms, they will count you as a new "hospitalization."

And what does that do? Give the Washington Post more ammunition for creating irrational fear, i.e. covidophobia.

I've stayed out of the politics zone cause I really can't handle the amount of closeted racism taking place (and I'm not just talking about Cali. Yes, I'm outright saying this), nor the amount of Anti-Pusher stupidity, nor Moxie championing Obama, Biden, Hilary, and co... (btw, "ethical man" Joe Biden said the police should just shoot protesters in the legs instead).

Glad to see that you embrace the fact-free, context-free, perspective-free absurd narrative of Black Lives Matter that "unarmed black males" are at significant risk from cops. As I have definitively shown time after time on this thread, there is no logical basis for believing that. None.

In 2019, there were roughly 7,000 black male homicide victims in the United States. Only 9 of them were "unarmed" and shot by police. That is 0.1%. Meanwhile Chicago just had its deadliest murder day in 60 years, with 85 shot and 24 killed. And now over 5 black people have been killed in the post-Floyd rioting.

But yes, Black Lives Matter - only in the extremely rare cases where a cop shoots and kills them, which almost always involves a confrontation and tempers flaring.

But, it's always fun to pop back in and laugh at you. So yes, here I am, laughing at you. Not for being wrong about COVID (AGAIN), but honestly for being this stupid.

And believe me, I don't take your laughing seriously. You did not address the point above, which you were totally wrong about, that after re-opening states like Georgia and Florida would see a huge increase in cases. That did not happen and you were ashamed to admit it. Their cases actually went down, as reported by Axios. So you waited two weeks hoping that there would be news favorable to you.

It's also funny to see you be so anti-U.S. government when it comes to foreign policy in the Middle East, yet when the U.S. government claims that 100,000 people-plus have died from "Covid," you accept the number without even blinking. Why? Because you hate Trump and in this case you're not trying to be skeptical. You may want to look at the John Lott article I posted, as well as the numerous posts I have made on how the CDC is encouraging doctors to commit clear and transparent fraud in their death reporting.

If the U.S. government said that it only killed X number of civilians while bombing Iraq or Syria, would you accept that number at face value? No, you wouldn't. But because you want Trump to be discredited, you will accept any number put out that will reflect poorly on him.

Finally, even if you accept this bogus 115,000 death number as completely accurate (and I have heard from numerous medical professionals that it is ridiculously inflated), that number is still far, far below the 2-million-plus figure that was used by Fauci and Birx to justify the lockdowns. Even if you want to point to my off-hand remark about Swine Flu likely causing more deaths, I was far closer to the reality than the model that was used to justify the lockdowns (2-million plus).

You think you're above the American fray, but when your beliefs are pressed, you are nothing more than a mental slave to CNN and the Washington Post. You're not the rebel you think you are. You are not an Alex Berenson-type even though you tell yourself you are. The only reason you are critical of Democrats is because you have an up-close view of American foreign policy, living in the Middle East. Were it not for that, you would be identical to Moxie. It is laughable indeed.

 

[calitennis127]

I think we still venerate Thomas Jefferson. Don't get your panties THAT twisted up.

Lol....who is the "we" you are talking about? Would that include the vandals in Portland that just knocked down a statue of Jefferson? Would that include CNN's Angela Rye, who said in 2017 that statues of Jefferson and Washington had to come down along with the statues to Lee and other Confederate luminaries?

You really need to catch up with the times. 10 of the first 12 American presidents were slaveowners. By the anti-Confederate-statue "logic" you subscribe to, far more people than just the prominent Confederates have to be discredited. And that is happening right now.

Come on, low-information voter, get with the program.

Leftist Protesters Topple Thomas Jefferson Statue In Portland
June 15, 2020

Leftist Protesters Topple Thomas Jefferson Statue In Portland | The Gateway Pundit | by Brock Simmons

No, nothing is sacred anymore.

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CNN's Angela Rye: Washington, Jefferson Statues "Need To Come Down"
August 18, 2017

CNN's Angela Rye: Washington, Jefferson Statues "Need To Come Down"

CNN's Angela Rye called for statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson to come down Thursday on the network. "American history is not all glorious... George Washington was a slave owner. We need to call slave owners out for what they are. Whether we think they were protecting American...

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[Moxie]

Folks are mad, Cali. Get over the statues.