US Open Final: Djokovic vs. Medvedev

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the AntiPusher

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I think it's a shame he (Djoker) didn't pull it off. It probably would have gone down as the greatest achievement in tennis history. I know a few Fedal fans will be rubbing their hands in glee, but it would have been immense if you look beyond fandom.
I can't speak for the other Rafa fans but I feel that Novak's attitude and antics are overtop. Yes, it's not Novak's fault that he has remained in better health than Rafa and Roger. Novak's stretching and flexibility has proven to be the model for all athletes of every sport to copy into their training regimen. YES, I'm very happy that Daniil won his first grand slam championship. Novak has next year to capture the calendar year Grand slam but now so does everyone else including Nadal
 
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Excellent match by Medvedev exposing that Djokovic is done. He lost to Zverev at the Olympics and now to Medvedev at the USO, both on hardcourt. Medvedev outplayed Djokovic in every field of the game. The highlights of Djokovic were that he almost gave a heart attack to the ball girl when he was about to assault a tennis ball while she was running towards him, and then a point later destroying a racket like a psycho. Typical highlights from Djokovic.
 

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Excellent match by Medvedev exposing that Djokovic is done. He lost to Zverev at the Olympics and now to Medvedev at the USO, both on hardcourt. Medvedev outplayed Djokovic in every field of the game. The highlights of Djokovic were that he almost gave a heart attack to the ball girl when he was about to assault a tennis ball while she was running towards him, and then a point later destroying a racket like a psycho. Typical highlights from Djokovic.

Djokovic is done LMAO. He made it to a slam final and won three others this year, and he beat the person who beat him just as badly as he was beaten in this slam. Djokovic is going to be just fine.
 
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Excellent match by Medvedev exposing that Djokovic is done. He lost to Zverev at the Olympics and now to Medvedev at the USO, both on hardcourt. Medvedev outplayed Djokovic in every field of the game. The highlights of Djokovic were that he almost gave a heart attack to the ball girl when he was about to assault a tennis ball while she was running towards him, and then a point later destroying a racket like a psycho. Typical highlights from Djokovic.
Novak done??? The guy who just came one match from winning the CYGS is done??? Oh my stars... :facepalm:
 

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I think it's a shame he (Djoker) didn't pull it off. It probably would have gone down as the greatest achievement in tennis history. I know a few Fedal fans will be rubbing their hands in glee, but it would have been immense if you look beyond fandom.

Ya kidding me, bro. You wrote this to smoke me out. :popcorn

I agree with some of it but not the main point. If Novak won yesterday, it would have been like a nuclear bomb dropped on mens tennis that would render any achievement of the next twenty or thirty years to be virtually worthless. The Big 3 have been so serial in their achievements, and the field so promiscuous in letting them have their way, that their gargantuan records will be spoken of in the same way as Apollo’s lyre, or Poseidens trident. They’ll become mythology rather than fact. People lose all perspective around such feats, so imagine if the tennis Holy Grail fell to them as well?

As it stands, it’s possible that some genius might arrive and scoop the CYGS, retire on ten slams and be compared easily with the greatest of all tennis names. We should hope for this, instead of yet another rolling of the drunks by the Big 3.

But also, Novak’s inability to get the job done provides a fillip for the likes of Medvedev, who may build a worthwhile CV now as the damager of the Big 3, the death knell, and give space for further great achievements by players not yet even heard of.

Also, it leaves men’s tennis with at least one great mountain still unscaled, which might waken the unappreciative to ponder just what an achievement it is. When records are so easy broken, we tend not appreciate the person who previously held the record, and often we tend to denigrate them a little, smirking at their old black and white television crewcuts. But not only was Novak trying to become the first since 1969 to win the CYGS, he was the first since then to wash up on the shores of New York with the first 3 in the bag. In fact, only Borg (78-80), Courier (92) and Novak (16, 21) have reached the midway point. Not Jimmy, Mac, Ivan, Pete, Roger, or Rafa. That’s how high a mountain it is to scale.

Novak now joins Lew Hoad in the venerable subset of greats who won 3 but fell in New York, Hoad losing to Ken Rosewall in 1956. I’m not certain there aren’t others, and we may think they’re insignificant but they’re not – they’re a testament to how tough it is to achieve this.

I’m giving Novak props for taking it this far, but I’m glad he lost because I think these things should be far more difficult to achieve than they’ve become over the last 20 years, and I’m hoping for tennis to become far more competitive over the next 20 years, so that records will actually indicate something of the difficulty inherent in them, when they’re broken…
 
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Thinking of the match, Novak expended so much energy on the enormity of the season, that it left him gasping for oxygen when faced with a single match. I really think he went overboard on assessing and accepting the mantle of history and he had little left in the final, compared to other finals he's played. He was talking about hunting with wolfs, and how his opponents would have to stay out there on court for forty days and forty nights to bring him down, and really, I think he should have reduced the task to drills and forehands and backhands, and let the media create the hype.

Maybe it's understandable that he let it get to him this way, but he left little room inside for growth, and wasn't up to it when Danii played to a different script - a masterclass of matchplay tennis, baseline stuff that befuddled and further exasperated Novak, and a great show of nerve to win it in such a straightforward fashion... :clap::clap:
 

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Novak done??? The guy who just came one match from winning the CYGS is done??? Oh my stars... :facepalm:
What can you expect from a serious Nadal fanatic? The hyperbole will be off the charts to undermine Nole and elevate Fedal while they're not even playing! When you see and hear $#!t like that about "being done" after a huge accomplishment, all you can do is shake your head & pity the fool!:D
 

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I think the moment Novak will regret the most is game 2 second set where he had Medvedev at 0-40, and he couldn’t break. It might not have changed the final outcome, but it certainly could have caused Medvedev to lose a bit of focus and make this a bit more of a match.
It really happens a lot in tennis; a server going down 0-40 and pulling the game out! It only made a difference today because Nole lost! :facepalm:
 

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AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA stick a fork in fakervic. He is DONE! RIP croctards!
 

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Thinking of the match, Novak expended so much energy on the enormity of the season, that it left him gasping for oxygen when faced with a single match. I really think he went overboard on assessing and accepting the mantle of history and he had little left in the final, compared to other finals he's played. He was talking about hunting with wolfs, and how his opponents would have to stay out there on court for forty days and forty nights to bring him down, and really, I think he should have reduced the task to drills and forehands and backhands, and let the media create the hype.

Maybe it's understandable that he let it get to him this way, but he left little room inside for growth, and wasn't up to it when Danii played to a different script - a masterclass of matchplay tennis, baseline stuff that befuddled and further exasperated Novak, and a great show of nerve to win it in such a straightforward fashion... :clap::clap:
Yeah, Novak had himself, his wife and team plus fans believing he was immortal. Yet, although he defeated Rafa at RG a few months ago, he was the same player who got totally destroyed by Rafa at RG almost a year since the anniversary of his butt whipping. It's fitting that Daniil's game totally took Novak's will and should be the blueprint for Sascha and Tsitspas who both should have beaten him in Grand Slams matches. Yes, it would have been a pure tragedy if he would have captured the CYGS which would had clouded the better judgement of the tennis enthusiastic fans. A victory by Novak would have pretty much ruined the brilliant careers of both Roger and Rafa. Daniil's championship save the game of tennis and preserved the legacy of the other two thirds of the GOAT.
 
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It really happens a lot in tennis; a server going down 0-40 and pulling the game out! It only made a difference today because Nole lost! :facepalm:
Good Grief, did that poster ever seen the video clips of Pete Sampras career. Pete could go down 0-40 against the previous greatest return of service Agassi and boom, boom boom boom boom. Pete had held his service.
 
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Djoker couldn’t get the calendar slam but he has the Djoker slam, he did win all 4 in a row. Rafa and roger couldn’t.
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2022 will be interesting. Nadal will be fresh and looking for 21. Unpredictable where djoker will be, this year took a lot out of him. Federer is toast..

tsitsipas, a question mark. Zverev seems on the verge of taking over, at the top. Medvedev is probably going to be #1 but his game reminds me of hewitt’s, when opponents were ‘off’ he crushed them, but when opponents were ‘on’, at their mercy. Danil has a better serve than hewitt but similar style in that they rely on defense and opponent’s Ufes too much. Not sure he will be the next top great. He will always be there, ready to beat anyone but players like alcaraz, zverev, even tsitsipas will have upper hand when playing their best.

alcaraz seems to be next great, let’s see how he improves... he has weapons and has the athleticism.
 

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Djoker couldn’t get the calendar slam but he has the Djoker slam, he did win all 4 in a row. Rafa and roger couldn’t.
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2022 will be interesting. Nadal will be fresh and looking for 21. Unpredictable where djoker will be, this year took a lot out of him. Federer is toast..

tsitsipas, a question mark. Zverev seems on the verge of taking over, at the top. Medvedev is probably going to be #1 but his game reminds me of hewitt’s, when opponents were ‘off’ he crushed them, but when opponents were ‘on’, at their mercy. Danil has a better serve than hewitt but similar style... not sure he will be the next top great.

alcaraz seems to be next great, let’s see how he improves... he has weapons and has the athleticism.

I was about to worry about Nole being punished for being so successful by not being able to defend as many Slams next season! The thing is, back in 2016, he also held 6 Masters titles from 2015 so by the end of 2016, Murray was able to cobble enough points together to snatch YE #1! Next year in 2022, Djokovic may not win as many majors, but he's not defending a bunch of Masters' points so he won't fall in the rankings unless there's a total collapse in his game! :face-with-hand-over-mouth:
 

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Novak done??? The guy who just came one match from winning the CYGS is done??? Oh my stars... :facepalm:
I don't know why people even react to this crap, TBH. And they get 3 replies?? Blame yourselves.
 
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Djoker couldn’t get the calendar slam but he has the Djoker slam, he did win all 4 in a row. Rafa and roger couldn’t.

There is no such thing as a "Djoker Slam". There is CGS and CYGS. The history books are clear that CYGS is the hardest achievement. To Joe's credit he never shied away from the scope and scale of the potential achievement. His fans should do the same.
 
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tsitsipas, a question mark. Zverev seems on the verge of taking over, at the top. Medvedev is probably going to be #1 but his game reminds me of hewitt’s, when opponents were ‘off’ he crushed them, but when opponents were ‘on’, at their mercy.

alcaraz seems to be next great, let’s see how he improves... he has weapons and has the athleticism.
There’s no way Zverev is going to dominate tennis, brother. He lacks it, in the trousers department. Straw balls. He’s 0-11 versus top ten players at the slams. I’ll be surprised if he wins one.

I agree about Tsitsipas. Huge disappointment. Drama Queen. Uses up too much energy with his wardrobe changes. I never heard of players having manicures and pedicures mid-match before. And the hair! Well, he can’t restart until his stylist is finished. This guy can’t handle the criticism, and that’s why he’ll fail. Rafa might take a long bathroom break and not care what anyone says. Novak brings his his bag with him and settles down to do whatever he does when he disrupts an opponent, and the controversy is non existent in his eyes. Tsitsipas gets testy and teary when he’s criticised.

I think that although Rafa and Novak aren’t finished yet (though I’m worried about Rafa’s foot), we’re heading into a Hewitt-Courier type transition now, and Medvedev fits the part of either of those two players, a stop gap before the next great player comes along. Think of how many generations of makeweight we’ve seen since Sampras left. The field getting ploughed too easily. I read a headline during the USO that there’s was a shock, Grigor was beaten. Who writes these headlines? That was never a shock a single time in his career, and there have been so many Grigors.

I like Alcaraz but he’s too young yet to hang your hat on…