US Open Final: Djokovic vs. Medvedev

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Who wins?

 

[MikeOne]

Djokovic’s best —> medvedev’s best.

but so much intrigue... and unknowns. A calendar slam hasn’t been achieved for 50 years on men’s side, for good reason. To get there, it’s almost an impossible task and the closer you get, the harder it gets. Djokovic’s mental strength has been out of this world, can he summon some of it on arguably the biggest test of his career? The pressure will be immense and medvedev gives you nothing... probably the worst player to play if you are not hitting cleanly and mentally strong, outside of djokovic, that is. But the pressure will be huge...

 

[Mile]

Pressure will be not just on Djoker and Med, also on Lever. His face...

 

[don_fabio]

It's about time I stick with Novak I hope he stays calm enough to win this and makes history.

 

[Ricardo]

Go Djoker, i hope he makes history too, records are made to be broken.

 

[tented]

Heart: Medvedev in 3
Head: Djokovic in 5

 

[nehmeth]

Danil is probably my favorite younger player. He's the last in this tournament's gauntlet of NextGens that Novak will face. I'm looking forward to a competitive match and hoping Djokovic has the wherewithal to win the Grand Slam.

 

[tented]

Djokovic’s best —> medvedev’s best.

but so much intrigue... and unknowns. A calendar slam hasn’t been achieved for 50 years on men’s side, for good reason. To get there, it’s almost an impossible task and the closer you get, the harder it gets. Djokovic’s mental strength has been out of this world, can he summon some of it on arguably the biggest test of his career? The pressure will be immense and medvedev gives you nothing... probably the worst player to play if you are not hitting cleanly and mentally strong, outside of djokovic, that is. But the pressure will be huge...

Yes, the pressure will be huge, but one thing is certain with Novak: when it comes to high pressure moments, he wins much more than he loses.

Here are his “Pressure Points” numbers from the ATP site (the first two columns represent this year; the second pair, career):

Compare them to Nadal’s:

And Federer’s:

 

[Ellentonboy]

I think if there was a player in the draw that had the capability to beat Novak over five sets. it would be Medvedev. Best of three is another story, but over five sets it starts to become questionable. I would love to see Medvedev win because he has been playing in an era of Novak, Rafa and Roger, but if I were a betting man I would say that most likely Novak will come through with the title. This may not be a popular opinion, but you know what folks, it is probably going to be the outcome. That said, I hope we all can enjoy a fantastic, competitive final.

 

[MikeOne]

This is a totally different match up. Against zverev, wasn’t all on djokovic’s racquet, zverev had the serve and groundstrokes to pull a wawrinka, just couldn’t match djokovic’s intensity and concentration. The 5 set match was 3.5 hours, would probably be 4.5 hours vs medvedev.

the final is more on novak’s racquet but likely to be more physical, due to danil’s speed defense. The pressure will be huge..

if djokovic is at his best, i’m just not sure danil can do anything about it. But... anything below his best, can lose... and i expect a physical war

 

[Mile]

Which was Master where Djoker beat (at the start of his career) Andy, Nadal and Fed in the final !? Was it Cincinnati ? That was long ago, was it some 2008-2010 era ?

Now similar will happen. Cici is out but 3 of 4 best can be out, Babyface, Zverev and Medvedev. I think Djoker will go all out, forget hours, he made similar on Andy (4-5h Ozzy) and day later bombed Nadal on 6h. Count he will be under adrenaline. And maybe Medo should just let him win, to bypass some bad injuries.

Lets make a history. In our time .

 

[BratSrbin]

Which was Master where Djoker beat (at the start of his career) Andy, Nadal and Fed in the final !? Was it Cincinnati ? That was long ago, was it some 2008-2010 era ?

Now similar will happen. Cici is out but 3 of 4 best can be out, Babyface, Zverev and Medvedev. I think Djoker will go all out, forget hours, he made similar on Andy (4-5h Ozzy) and day later bombed Nadal on 6h. Count he will be under adrenaline. And maybe Medo should just let him win, to bypass some bad injuries.

Lets make a history. In our time was the Rogers Cup in Montreal, and he defeated No. 3 Andy Roddick in the quarterfinals, No. 2 Nadal in the semi-finals, and No. 1 Federer in the final.

Nole's first Master was Montreal, and he defeated No. 3 Rodick in the quarterfinals, No. 2 Nadal in the semi-finals, and No. 1 Federer in the final.
It was 2007.

 

[Fiero425]

Nole's first Master was Montreal, and he defeated No. 3 Rodick in the Quarterfinals, No. 2 Nadal in the Semi-finals, and No. 1 Federer in the final.
It was 2007.

I'm back! Was dragging/slow-load for a while! This is what makes me laugh when people talk about different eras for Fedalovic! That's so fk'n ridiculous as you've highlighted with that early success against Fedal! Over those early years, it was Djokovic that kept Federer from winning more AO's with lone losses to Nadal and Murray! People have selective memory! I give credit where credit's due; even with Nadal who's no fave of mines! Others have literally "lost it" with hyperbole as if Novak doesn't have anyone who's capable of beating him! Undermining this great achievement is mindblowing IMO! Most would love to be there as history's being made, but the detractors will always have reason to have reservations concerning Djokovic!

 

[Moxie]

Nole's first Master was Montreal, and he defeated No. 3 Rodick in the quarterfinals, No. 2 Nadal in the semi-finals, and No. 1 Federer in the final.
It was 2007.

Right, but then it took him to 2011 to get his 2nd Major. It's a bit sad to drag out his "junior" career. Even when he jet-propelled himself to the higher level, it took him ages to overcome Fedal, because he was so far behind. He's doing a great job now, I won't say he's not, but against who, really? I'll take this to the GOAT thread with you, because that's what you guys are debating now.

As this final, sure, Novak the odd's on favorite, if the nerves don't get him. I do like Medvedev, and I hope he steps up his game and his game plan. This will be his 3rd Major final, and I know he doesn't want to keep leaving them on the table. I think he has the chops to beat Novak, if he plays the clever game he's capable of. But Novak said he'll play this like it's the last match of his life, and I believe him. That will be hard to beat. All I can ask of Medvedev is that he plays with the same heart and soul, and leaves blood on the court. Don't get hypnotized into bh-bh rallies. Use the forecourt. Take risks. Use your crafty game. At the very least, don't be a chump! If you're going to lose, lose on your own terms. Oh, and serve out of your mind. That's it.

 

[Mile]

Right, but then it took him to 2011 to get his 2nd Major. It's a bit sad to drag out his "junior" career. Even when he jet-propelled himself to the higher level, it took him ages to overcome Fedal, because he was so far behind. He's doing a great job now, I won't say he's not, but against who, really? I'll take this to the GOAT thread with you, because that's what you guys are debating now.

As this final, sure, Novak the odd's on favorite, if the nerves don't get him. I do like Medvedev, and I hope he steps up his game and his game plan. This will be his 3rd Major final, and I know he doesn't want to keep leaving them on the table. I think he has the chops to beat Novak, if he plays the clever game he's capable of. But Novak said he'll play this like it's the last match of his life, and I believe him. That will be hard to beat. All I can ask of Medvedev is that he plays with the same heart and soul, and leaves blood on the court. Don't get hypnotized into bh-bh rallies. Use the forecourt. Take risks. Use your crafty game. At the very least, don't be a chump! If you're going to lose, lose on your own terms. Oh, and serve out of your mind. That's it.

OK, it was Miami masters, good. I messed Andy with A-Rod. But he was a great player, Top3 that time.

If you would read Djokers book, his worst moment was defeat on Ozzy 27. 1. 2010 by Tsonga. He was still not under diet - Gluten. Luckily a wife from Cyprus was watching that match, and her husband was PhD Četojević, he gave him a diet, he recognized what is his problem.

2008-2010 was lost era for Djoker.

 

[Fiero425]

OK, it was Miami Masters, good. I messed Andy with A-Rod. But he was a great player, Top 3 that time.

If you would read Djoker's book, his worst moment was defeat on Ozzy 27. 1. 2010 by Tsonga. He was still not under diet - Gluten. Luckily a wife from Cyprus was watching that match, and her husband was PhD Četojević. He gave him a diet. He recognized what is his problem.

2008-2010 was lost era for Djoker.

There were instances where Djokovic put forth quite a bit of effort only to come up short! I can't forget that '09 Madrid Masters SF that may still be the longest BO3 match ever at 4+ hours! I think it came down to a 3rd set TB, but Nadal at the height of his powers wouldn't allow himself to lose on clay to an upstart (at the time)! I can only guess that softened up Rafa to go down in straight sets to Roger the next day!

 

[tented]

There were instances where Djokovic put forth quite a bit of effort only to come up short! I can't forget that '09 Madrid Masters SF that may still be the longest BO3 match ever at 4+ hours! I think it came down to a 3rd set TB, but Nadal at the height of his powers wouldn't allow himself to lose on clay to an upstart (at the time)!

It was surpassed in 2012 at the London Olympics SF between Federer & del Potro: 3-6, 7-6(5), 19-17 — 4 hours, 26 minutes

The Madrid SF was 4 hours, 3 minutes


I added this, because it involves Djokovic in Madrid, but I don’t want to derail this thread to discuss other players.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

Damien Dumusois will be the chair umpire for the match

 

[tented]

Damien Dumusois will be the chair umpire for the match

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[MargaretMcAleer]

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