US Open 2019, Flushing Meadows, NY USA - Grand Slam (Men)

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I will also add: other than Federer and Nadal, the biggest winner if Djokovic's shoulder is hurting him is none other than Stan Wawrinka.

He would relish a chance to play an injured Djokovic on a US Open night match. Those balls will be demolished if they meet up in the 4th Round.
Stanislas isnt winning the tournament, the biggest winner is Nadal. He would lose to a healthy Novak, while Roger has a chance even against an healthy Novak.
 
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Stanislas isnt winning the tournament, the biggest winner is Nadal. He would lose to a healthy Novak, while Roger has a chance even against an healthy Novak.

I am not talking about winning the tournament but rather a chance of going far in the tournament. Stan might not win the tournament but he would definitely rather face an unhealthy Novak in the 4th round to give himself a chance.

Also, if we are being honest here: I do not think Nadal or Federer will beat a healthy Djokovic here at the US Open.
 

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I am not talking about winning the tournament but rather a chance of going far in the tournament. Stan might not win the tournament but he would definitely rather face an unhealthy Novak in the 4th round to give himself a chance.

Also, if we are being honest here: I do not think Nadal or Federer will beat a healthy Djokovic here at the US Open.
Ok i missunderstood that about Stanislas. Your are right.

And thanks for being honest!:good:
 
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We are talking about a hypothetical where he is passed by one or two players from his era. This would mean he hasn't won "so much" or been consistent. .

I understand things are relative, so if someone surpasses your achievement, it's not as impressive. But I really hope you realize how insane what you're saying sounds. Nadal/Djokovic winning more majors makes Federer less consistent? How the fuck does that make any sense? He's been a top player since literally 2003. It's 2019. He's been winning majors throughout, was a dominant world number 1 for more consecutive years than anyone else, etc... Also, unless Nadal/Djokovic end up winning 25 majors or something, Federer would still have won "so much." 20 majors is an insaaaaaaane amount. That's 6 more majors than Sampras. So even if Nadal/Djokovic win something like 21 or 22 majors, 20 is still a whole fucking lot. Unless you're seriously saying 21 is "so much" but 20 isn't. I hope you and every bitter Fed fan who liked your post understand how insanely dumb this logic is.

Honestly, Fed fans have been almost single handedly responsible for how ridiculous the level of tennis discussion has been over the past couple of months around here. I really get Wimbledon was hard to swallow. Not even saying that to taunt. Hell, it was hard to swallow for me and I'm not even a Fed fan. But that doesn't excuse the constant spam of garbage.
 

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I understand things are relative, so if someone surpasses your achievement, it's not as impressive. But I really hope you realize how insane what you're saying sounds. Nadal/Djokovic winning more majors makes Federer less consistent? How the fuck does that make any sense? He's been a top player since literally 2003. It's 2019. He's been winning majors throughout, was a dominant world number 1 for more consecutive years than anyone else, etc... Also, unless Nadal/Djokovic end up winning 25 majors or something, Federer would still have won "so much." 20 majors is an insaaaaaaane amount. That's 6 more majors than Sampras. So even if Nadal/Djokovic win something like 21 or 22 majors, 20 is still a whole fucking lot. Unless you're seriously saying 21 is "so much" but 20 isn't. I hope you and every bitter Fed fan who liked your post understand how insanely dumb this logic is.

Honestly, Fed fans have been almost single handedly responsible for how ridiculous the level of tennis discussion has been over the past couple of months around here. I really get Wimbledon was hard to swallow. Not even saying that to taunt. Hell, it was hard to swallow for me and I'm not even a Fed fan. But that doesn't excuse the constant spam of garbage.

I wish I can like this 1 million times, Broken!

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My Predictions for the tournament and daily summaries...



Day 1 Summary


Fascinating first day at US Open 2019. Let’s review the key highlights from the top half;

· All favorites (Djokovic, Federer and Medvedev) won comfortably.

· All the players projected to reach fourth round survived the first round apart from Raonic who withdrew. (Stan, Basilashvili / Reilly Opelka, Goffin, Coric / Dimitrov)

· As predicted Fognini exited early.

· Unexpected defeats – Hurkacz and Querrey (expected both of them to reach round 2)

· Many close encounters, including 7 five setters.

· Best moment of the day – Sumit Nagal winning the first set against Roger. Huge moment to the Indian youngster. However, this is nothing significant with respect to Federer’s chances as some fans think. If you remember, he lost the opening set of Wimbledon 2019 to Lloyd Harris, and we all know how that tournament endedJ.

· Matches to watch in second round – Coric vs. Dimitrov, Garin vs. de Minaur, Pouille vs. Evens

My predictions remains the same for the tournament.

Day 2 Summary

What a day! Full of surprises and upsets! Key highlights from the bottom half;

· The favorite, Rafa eases through to the second round beating Millman.

· Bautista Agut, Thiem, Khachanov, Tsitsipas, and Auger-Aliassime bowed out in the first round!

· Third quarter of the draw is wide open and this leaves Kyrgios, Monfils, Rublev, and Berrettini with a great opportunity to reach a US Open semifinal for the first time.

· Fourth quarter remains as projected apart from the loss of Khachanov.

· 10 five setters (that’s a whopping 31.3% of the total of 32)

· Matches to watch in second round – Zverev vs. Tiafoe, Isner vs. Struff, Chung vs. Verdasco

My initial predictions for fourth round, quarters and semis are affected by the early losses of Bautista Agut, Thiem, Khachanov L

Who do you think will reach the quarters from this half? My choices are;

Kyrgios/ Rublev vs. Monfils

Tiafoe vs. Nadal

Day 3 Summary

A day dominated by rain.

· The favorites Djokovic and Federer advanced to third round.

· Roger looks rusty and vulnerable against Džumhur. The starts remind me of his 2017 campaign which might provide a good opportunity to Pouille and Goffin in the next couple of rounds.

· Key take away is Novak is struggling from a left shoulder injury. Even though, Londero failed to take advantage, Stan and Medvedev might make use of this opportunity. Then again, Djokovic won couple of grand slams in 2016 playing with a shoulder pain so I’m not writing him off at this point.

· Coric withdrew and only 10 seeds remaining in the top half of the draw with 11 matches to be played today.

Get ready for a busy day folks.
 

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Are they going to start early today, to clear the backlog from yesterday?
 

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I understand things are relative, so if someone surpasses your achievement, it's not as impressive. But I really hope you realize how insane what you're saying sounds. Nadal/Djokovic winning more majors makes Federer less consistent? How the fuck does that make any sense? He's been a top player since literally 2003. It's 2019. He's been winning majors throughout, was a dominant world number 1 for more consecutive years than anyone else, etc... Also, unless Nadal/Djokovic end up winning 25 majors or something, Federer would still have won "so much." 20 majors is an insaaaaaaane amount. That's 6 more majors than Sampras. So even if Nadal/Djokovic win something like 21 or 22 majors, 20 is still a whole fucking lot. Unless you're seriously saying 21 is "so much" but 20 isn't. I hope you and every bitter Fed fan who liked your post understand how insanely dumb this logic is.

Honestly, Fed fans have been almost single handedly responsible for how ridiculous the level of tennis discussion has been over the past couple of months around here. I really get Wimbledon was hard to swallow. Not even saying that to taunt. Hell, it was hard to swallow for me and I'm not even a Fed fan. But that doesn't excuse the constant spam of garbage.

Not as impressive. Translation = not as good, 20 loses a lot of greatness as soon as someone hits 21. That is the way of sport. And if it is someone from his own era it loses a TON more greatness. And if it's two players from same era? I'd say it'd make his major total completely insignificant.

Yeah he has 6 more than Pete, that may end up being a case of so what. He also has 10 more MS than Agassi who previously held that record and yet when we talk about the strength of Roger's resume I think the very last thing that we'd mention is MS events. Care to guess why that is? Different eras, and we all know what contributes to players today being able to win a ton more.

Consistency is about how you look at it. Roger was a top 3 player in 2011, 2014-2016 pre-injury and now 2019. I look at those as weak seasons for an obvious reason. The real consistency mark is Nadal has 13 seasons with a major, Roger 11 and Nole 9. And the other two are a lot younger...
 
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Today, I consider the following two matches to be 50-50

Verdasco-Chung and Lopez-Nishioka.

Both pitch a veterans on the verge of retirement against a relatively young player. But, the young players involved are coming back from injury breaks and that would make these matches quite even.
 
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It is ok if Roger's record is broken by someone in the future, as after all records are meant to be broken. But, it is total "no-no" for someone of this era to break it.

Common sense. How great is someone if there is 1 or 2 that are better from the same era?
 

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It is ok if Roger's record is broken by someone in the future, as after all records are meant to be broken. But, it is total "no-no" for someone of this era to break it.

Well said.

Although Federer is at pole position(even if he isn't overtaken), he has massively underachieved in his career gifting slams via some egregious chokes.
 
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Reminds of me an advertisement.

In a street famous for pizzeria in Italy,

one store advertises saying "We have the best pizza in the world"

another store advertises saying "We have the best pizza in the country"

a third store makes a simple statement saying "We have the best pizza on this street"
 
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Has anyone figured out how to say Majchrzak? I've seen him around tour a bit. But not much. And I was actually a little disappointed in Jarry for not beating him. I really thought he'd want to, and could, take advantage of Raonic's withdrawal. Was not to be I guess.

Still. I don't even know where to begin with trying to pronounce his name.
 

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Hopefully Nadal can get the job done in straight sets, in his round 2 match against the Aussie not need a replay of last year with those three long matches.
 

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Hopefully Nadal can get the job done in straight sets, in his round 2 match against the Aussie not need a replay of last year with those three long matches.
Don’t worry there is no threat to your guy until final.
He will likely win the final , but it will be at least something like a test.
To be honest , this tournament is now his to lose.
And your freaking robot is the most consistent of the 3, against weaker opponents.
 

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Don’t worry there is no threat to your guy until final.
He will likely win the final , but it will be at least something like a test.
To be honest , this tournament is now his to lose.
And your freaking robot is the most consistent of the 3, against weaker opponents.

Playing a bunch of tulips before the final probably won't help him in the final if he is playing one of the big boys. This tournament IMO depends on Novak's health. If he's healthy he would beat Nadal in the final like a drum and if he plays Federer, the match would be over before the first ball was struck.
 

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Playing a bunch of tulips before the final probably won't help him in the final if he is playing one of the big boys. This tournament IMO depends on Novak's health. If he's healthy he would beat Nadal in the final like a drum and if he plays Federer, the match would be over before the first ball was struck.
Don't be salty because he's a honest Djokovic fan, Nadal draw looking good, he's no going to back down if he makes the final.
 
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