Time to crown Novak the GOAT?

[Nadalfan2013]

No matter how many times people tell you the claim in the first line of your post is bs you still keep posting it. For the last time, the above is BS. No one compared it to the slams except you.

Federer:

Federer Overcomes Del Potro in Olympic Semi Final Thriller - Perfect Tennis

Jeeeeeeez what a marathon match as Federer beat Del Potro 19-17 in 4 hours and 26 minutes to make his first Olympic final.

www.perfect-tennis.com

Federer after winning the SF in the 2012 Olympics:

The emotions I felt were as strong as winning a Grand Slam almost. But of course you have to hopefully save some for Sunday so you can't go overly crazy. But I was very, very touched at the end. But I was tense. I was nervous,” he continued. Obviously I was seeing myself as the loser many times during the match. But at the same time also I did see myself with medals. So you go through many emotions. You just hope somehow you come out on the other side as a winner and secure yourself a medal, which is now the case.

So Federer compared winning a “semi final” at the Olympics to winning a whole slam title. So imagine if he actually had won the final and got the Gold.

Djokovic:

Novak Djokovic calls for rankings points at Olympics, ‘arguably fifth Grand Slam’

“We have the best players in the world participating in arguably the fifth Grand Slam.”

www.google.ca

"To be quite frank, I don't see a reason why not. You know, we have the best players in the world participating in arguably the fifth Grand Slam. It's of that importance for all of us, even more, because it happens every four years”

So like I said stop embarrassing yourselves Federer and Djokovic fans. The only reason you are downplaying the Olympics and even contradicting your own players is because Nadal is the one who has the Gold. You even mention Wtf, Masters 1000 and also “career titles” but conveniently ignore the Olympics. So sad. Lol

Goldal, Silverer and Bronzokovic. Get over it!

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Nobody is going to say in the presser that Olympics sucks and they don't consider it as equivalent to Slams. Get real.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Nobody is going to say in the presser that Olympics sucks and they don't consider it as equivalent to Slams. Get real.

It’s not only about words in the Presser. Djokovic was in complete tears after his losses while Federer made love to Wawrinka on the tennis court in front of everybody after he won the doubles gold medal. Those reactions alone show that their words about how the Olympics are up there with the slams were legit. Have a nice day.

 

[Fiero425]

It’s not only about words in the Presser. Djokovic was in complete tears after his losses while Federer made love to Wawrinka on the tennis court in front of everybody after he won the doubles gold medal. Those reactions alone show that their words about how the Olympics are up there with the slams were legit. Have a nice day.

Funny that Fed and Stan were ready to "come to blows" just a week before at the YEC! That SF made so little sense; Wawrinka's inability to beat even an injured Fed and Mirka getting into a "back and forth" with Stan during the match! I still just SMH!

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Funny that Fed and Stan were ready to "come to blows" just a week before at the YEC! That SF made so little sense; Wawrinka's inability to beat even an injured Fed and Mirka getting into a "back and forth" with Stan during the match! I still just SMH!

Fiero, you are getting senile! The picture that he posted is not from DC victory but from Olympics doubles victory which happened in a totally different year.

 

[Fiero425]

Fiero, you are getting senile! The picture that he posted is not from DC victory but from Olympics doubles victory which happened in a totally different year.

Well I didn't watch either so "hard cheese!" It doesn't matter! Got my rant out regardless!

 

[Front242]

Federer:

Federer Overcomes Del Potro in Olympic Semi Final Thriller - Perfect Tennis

Jeeeeeeez what a marathon match as Federer beat Del Potro 19-17 in 4 hours and 26 minutes to make his first Olympic final.

www.perfect-tennis.com

Federer after winning the SF in the 2012 Olympics:

The emotions I felt were as strong as winning a Grand Slam almost. But of course you have to hopefully save some for Sunday so you can't go overly crazy. But I was very, very touched at the end. But I was tense. I was nervous,” he continued. Obviously I was seeing myself as the loser many times during the match. But at the same time also I did see myself with medals. So you go through many emotions. You just hope somehow you come out on the other side as a winner and secure yourself a medal, which is now the case.

So Federer compared winning a “semi final” at the Olympics to winning a whole slam title. So imagine if he actually had won the final and got the Gold.

Djokovic:

Novak Djokovic calls for rankings points at Olympics, ‘arguably fifth Grand Slam’

“We have the best players in the world participating in arguably the fifth Grand Slam.”

www.google.ca

"To be quite frank, I don't see a reason why not. You know, we have the best players in the world participating in arguably the fifth Grand Slam. It's of that importance for all of us, even more, because it happens every four years”

So like I said stop embarrassing yourselves Federer and Djokovic fans. The only reason you are downplaying the Olympics and even contradicting your own players is because Nadal is the one who has the Gold. You even mention Wtf, Masters 1000 and also “career titles” but conveniently ignore the Olympics. So sad. Lol

Goldal, Silverer and Bronzokovic. Get over it!

FFS. At least try and have the intelligence to get the context right. NO, he didn't mean it was like winning a slam. He was comparing his emotions because of the sheer relief at winning the longest semi final ever in a 3 set match 19-17 as it wasn't easy. Once again, FFS! Stop embarrassing yourself and read what's really there.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

FFS. At least try and have the intelligence to get the context right. NO, he didn't mean it was like winning a slam. He was comparing his emotions because of the sheer relief at winning the longest semi final ever in a 3 set match 19-17 as it wasn't easy. Once again, FFS! Stop embarrassing yourself and read what's really there.

Stop embarrassing yourself again. Federer for years answered questions about retirement with things "I'd like to play the Olympics" or "not before the Olympics".

Also even the ATP lists it as a Big title.

Stop being jealous. The Olympics Gold is a huge accomplishment for Nadal and everyone recognizes it except jealous in denial fedtards and noletards like yourself. If you want to talk about stats like Masters 1000 and WTF and even career titles that include Atp 250s and then not mention the Olympics, you are embarrassing yourself and even your boyfriends Federer and Djokovic would laugh at you.

Even in 1988 when Graf won the "Golden Grand Slam" everyone was talking about how she managed to win the 4 slams + Olympics and how it was huge. They didn't mention the WTF or Masters. Now go back to being a fanboy troll with some stupid reply instead of telling your boyfriend El Dude to edit his first post and include the Olympics.

 

[Front242]

Stop embarrassing yourself again. Federer for years answered questions about retirement with things "I'd like to play the Olympics" or "not before the Olympics".

Also even the ATP lists it as a Big title.

Stop being jealous. The Olympics Gold is a huge accomplishment for Nadal and everyone recognizes it except jealous in denial fedtards and noletards like yourself. If you want to talk about stats like Masters 1000 and WTF and even career titles that include Atp 250s and then not mention the Olympics, you are embarrassing yourself and even your boyfriends Federer and Djokovic would laugh at you.

Even in 1988 when Graf won the "Golden Grand Slam" everyone was talking about how she managed to win the 4 slams + Olympics and how it was huge. They didn't mention the WTF or Masters. Now go back to being a fanboy troll with some stupid reply instead of telling your boyfriend El Dude to edit his first post and include the Olympics.

Such a huge achievement only for Nadal. Massu was an amazing player too I guess or maybe it's just not a big deal as people keep telling you. If you keep on insisting with this nonsense though then you forgot to add Murray's photo as Murray must be the undisputed GOAT considering he has 3 Olympic gold medals so lol. As for calling me a fanboy troll, that's the most hilarious shit I've ever read and rich coming from you.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Such a huge achievement only for Nadal. Massu was an amazing player too I guess or maybe it's just not a big deal as people keep telling you. If you keep on insisting with this nonsense though then you forgot to add Murray's photo and Murray must be the undisputed GOAT considering he has 3 Olympic gold medals so lol.

As if slam titles were never won by one hit wonders. ROLLEYES. You are such a baby it's laughable. And yes it is huge for Murray that he won 2 singles Olympic gold medals, but this thread isn't about Murray since it's about GOAT debate. If Murray had around 18+ slams then of course we would bring his Olympics Gold medals in the GOAT debate. The point is all the Big 3 + Murray competed in an era where the Olympics was a HUGE deal and some of you ignoring it because your precious Federer & Djokovic failed to win it makes you look like blind jealous fanboy haters.

 

[Front242]

As if slam titles were never won by one hit wonders. ROLLEYES. You are such a baby it's laughable. And yes it is huge for Murray that he won 2 singles Olympic gold medals, but this thread isn't about Murray since it's about GOAT debate. If Murray had around 18+ slams then of course we would bring his Olympics Gold medals in the GOAT debate. The point is all the Big 3 + Murray competed in an era where the Olympics was a HUGE deal and some of you ignoring it because your precious Federer & Djokovic failed to win it makes you look like blind jealous fanboy haters.

Firstly, I stand corrected, as I said Murray had 3 gold medals and has 2 and secondly this is not about defending Federer or Djokovic, it's about telling you once and for all the Olympics are nowhere near as important as you make them out to be. Djokovic and Federer aren't "precious" to me and I couldn't give a shit they don't have Olympic gold medals in singles and you're one sad individual. Why the hell would I be jealous of Nadal ffs ?! Grow up.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Firstly, I stand corrected, as I said Murray had 3 gold medals and has 2 and secondly this is not about defending Federer or Djokovic, it's about telling you once and for all the Olympics are nowhere near as important as you make them out to be. Djokovic and Federer aren't "precious" to me and I couldn't give a shit they don't have Olympic gold medals in singles and you're one sad individual. Why the hell would I be jealous of Nadal ffs ?! Grow up.

Editing the 1st post:

Grand Slams: Roger 20, Rafa 20, Novak 19
Weeks at #1: Novak 323, Roger 310, Rafa 209
Titles: Roger 103, Rafa 88, Novak 84
Year-end #1s: Novak 6, Roger 5, Rafa 5
Olympics: Rafa gold, Roger silver, Novak bronze
Tour Finals: Roger 6, Novak 5, Rafa 0
Masters: Rafa 36, Novak 36, Roger 28
Records against the other two: Novak 57-51, Rafa 52-46, Roger 39-51

Get over it and grow up.

 

[Front242]

Editing the 1st post:

Grand Slams: Roger 20, Rafa 20, Novak 19
Weeks at #1: Novak 323, Roger 310, Rafa 209
Titles: Roger 103, Rafa 88, Novak 84
Year-end #1s: Novak 6, Roger 5, Rafa 5
Olympics: Rafa gold, Roger silver, Novak bronze
Tour Finals: Roger 6, Novak 5, Rafa 0
Masters: Rafa 36, Novak 36, Roger 28
Records against the other two: Novak 57-51, Rafa 52-46, Roger 39-51

Get over it and grow up.

I'm over it a long time ago. Click to expand for a nice friendly message.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

I'm over it a long time ago. Click to expand for a nice friendly message.

I have no problem with that because I’m not a troll like you and don’t ignore important stats. I accept that Nadal has 0 Wtf. Now you grow up and accept that Nadal has the gold medal while Federer and Djokovic do not. You won’t because you are a troll and a baby.

 

[Front242]

I have no problem with that because I’m not a troll like you. I accept that Nadal has 0 Wtf. Now you grow up and accept that Nadal has the gold medal while Federer and Djokovic do not. Keep being a baby.

Sure you're not a troll. Keeping posting more rubbish and people will believe you.

 

[Moxie]

Nobody is going to say in the presser that Olympics sucks and they don't consider it as equivalent to Slams. Get real.

You don't actually get to dispute a couple of actual quotes because they don't suit your argument. You can argue what YOU think about the Olympics, but you really are stacking the deck if you deny what athletes are quoted as saying as to how they personally value it.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Also even the ATP lists it as a Big title.

Olympics has a place in tennis achievements. Let us see what is its place. For a while ATP even awarded points for winning Olympics. The consensus they reached (the players, the ATP officials) was that Olympic winner will be awarded 750 points. In other words, Olympics is not only considered less valuable than a GS and WTF, it is also considered less valuable than an ATP 1000. This is not my opinion. This is the collective opinion of ATP.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

First, The Olympics is not an Atp event. Second the Atp have always said that they can’t give it too many points because players can’t defend it the next year so it would be a disaster for rankings. It has nothing to do with its value or importance. I tell you people have lost their mind around here because Nadal has the Gold, it’s actually hilarious and pathetic. I have given plenty of evidence and how huge it is but Fedtards and Djokotards will forever be in denial.

 

[El Dude]

Goldal, Silverer and Bronzokovic. Get over it!

This is kind of funny, I have to give it to you.

That said, you're way overblowing the importance of Olympics gold as far as historical achievement and greatness. As you said, it is a Big Title - no one is saying that - but it has far more personal value than historic value.

But please feel to address why Nadal is the only all-time great since Wilander not to win the World Tour Finals, even just once! That is far more of a black mark on his record than the lack of Olympic gold is on Federer's, Djokovic's - not to mention Sampras, Lendl, Becker, and Edberg.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

This is kind of funny, I have to give it to you.

That said, you're way overblowing the importance of Olympics gold as far as historical achievement and greatness. As you said, it is a Big Title - no one is saying that - but it has far more personal value than historic value.

But please feel to address why Nadal is the only all-time great since Wilander not to win the World Tour Finals, even just once! That is far more of a black mark on his record than the lack of Olympic gold is on Federer's, Djokovic's - not to mention Sampras, Lendl, Becker, and Edberg.

Lol And you overrate the WTF way more than I overrate the Olympics. At least I mention the WTF while you completely ignored the Olympics and refused to even include it in the stats just because Nadal has it over your favourite players. You even include career titles that include atp 250s but refuse to include the Olympics. Like I said even back in 1988 with the golden grand slam of Graf it was obvious how huge the Olympics was “historically” rather then on a “personal level”. All the Tennis experts mention it on TV that Nadal has 20 Slams but also the Olympics gold. It’s always in the main career highlights. As for the WTF I can assure you that Nadal doesn’t lose sleep about it as he skips it most of the time and I am sure he would rather win yet another FO for the 100th time than some Wtf. Sure it would be nice to have but the WTF is nowhere near a slam. The Olympics however is just huge in the Big 3 era and I have shown plenty of evidence that support it. If you want to debate the Olympics versus Wtf I’m sure most players would rather get the Olympics gold in singles but then again it’s not the point. The point is that in the list that you created it’s clear that the Olympics should figure there and anyone with a cell brain knows this at this point. When comparing the Big 3 it should go in order from 1. slams to 2. olympics/wtf to 3. masters 1000. But keep on trolling and don’t edit the first post. Everyone knows your and your friends real agenda.