The Lost Generation of Nishikori, Raonic and Dimitrov.

[herios]

Years or inches?

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[Fiero425]

There is no "second peak" here. Ferrer is flat out better and even more physically fit in his 30's than he was in his 20's. It is shocking to say the least. I can't think of anyone else even close to it that I've seen since I started watching tennis.

Wawrinka is closing on pulling the Ferrer. If he sustain his form one more year, he might do it. At this point, I am not counting him out to win another slam in the near future. Actually I am more positive in his chances, than Nadal's. ...I know my last statement could ignite some fireworks

What; another 2nd act? I can't see the comparison since Ferrer has little in the way of Masters' success or taking a major! If you're talking about longevity and playing well into his 30's; he's got it COVERED! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

 

[herios]

There is no "second peak" here. Ferrer is flat out better and even more physically fit in his 30's than he was in his 20's. It is shocking to say the least. I can't think of anyone else even close to it that I've seen since I started watching tennis.

Wawrinka is closing on pulling the Ferrer. If he sustain his form one more year, he might do it. At this point, I am not counting him out to win another slam in the near future. Actually I am more positive in his chances, than Nadal's. ...I know my last statement could ignite some fireworks

What; another 2nd act? I can't see the comparison since Ferrer has little in the way of Masters' success or taking a major! If you're talking about longevity and playing well into his 30's; he's got it COVERED! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

I am talking about the longevity here. Ferrer peaked really at 31, Wawrinka is "at peak period" which last now for 1.5 years and he is 30y old. I can see Wawrinka still winning big titles and being a top 4 a year from now.

 

[Fiero425]

Wawrinka is closing on pulling the Ferrer. If he sustain his form one more year, he might do it. At this point, I am not counting him out to win another slam in the near future. Actually I am more positive in his chances, than Nadal's. ...I know my last statement could ignite some fireworks

What; another 2nd act? I can't see the comparison since Ferrer has little in the way of Masters' success or taking a major! If you're talking about longevity and playing well into his 30's; he's got it COVERED! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

I am talking about the longevity here. Ferrer peaked really at 31, Wawrinka is "at peak period" which last now for 1.5 years and he is 30y old. I can see Wawrinka still winning big titles and being a top 4 a year from now.

You would hope, but Stan is notorious for unexpected losses in early rounds! He has all the game in the world, can beat any of the top 3, but the mental side is what makes him more akin to the 2nd tier of players! That loss to Roger at the WTF last season tells you all you need to know about the guy! He can have MP's, but find a way to lose it; even against an injured player! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

 

[herios]

What; another 2nd act? I can't see the comparison since Ferrer has little in the way of Masters' success or taking a major! If you're talking about longevity and playing well into his 30's; he's got it COVERED! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

I am talking about the longevity here. Ferrer peaked really at 31, Wawrinka is "at peak period" which last now for 1.5 years and he is 30y old. I can see Wawrinka still winning big titles and being a top 4 a year from now.

You would hope, but Stan is notorious for unexpected losses in early rounds! He has all the game in the world, can beat any of the top 3, but the mental side is what makes him more akin to the 2nd tier of players! That loss to Roger at the WTF last season tells you all you need to know about the guy! He can have MP's, but find a way to lose it; even against an injured player! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

I am not saying he will win day in day out, that is not his thing. But he can come out of nowhere, seeded 8, then he will get through any of them and win. That is what matters.

 

[Fiero425]

I am talking about the longevity here. Ferrer peaked really at 31, Wawrinka is "at peak period" which last now for 1.5 years and he is 30y old. I can see Wawrinka still winning big titles and being a top 4 a year from now.

You would hope, but Stan is notorious for unexpected losses in early rounds! He has all the game in the world, can beat any of the top 3, but the mental side is what makes him more akin to the 2nd tier of players! That loss to Roger at the WTF last season tells you all you need to know about the guy! He can have MP's, but find a way to lose it; even against an injured player! :nono :angel: :dodgy:

I am not saying he will win day in day out, that is not his thing. But he can come out of nowhere, seeded 8, then he will get through any of them and win. That is what matters.

I wouldn't expect that from anyone; including Nole, but this generation of players have allowed the Top Tier ownership of majors and Masters never seen before! I still shake my head looking at the record books; 3 players have taken over like no others in history! It's not like I want Roger and Nole to lose, but it should happen more often! Something's holding back that 2nd & 3rd tier of players! Even Borg, Connors, and McEnroe couldn't pull out the HOUDINI acts routinely done by "The Big 4" these days! You had a career year occurring and made noteworthy for a decade like Laver's '69, Connors' '74, McEnroe's '84, and Sampras' '95! Now it seems to happen with regularity of the current crop of stars winning 3 majors and multiple Masters! This should not be happening with this kind of frequency but for the ineptitude of the tour "also-rans!" They all have so much ability, but it has only paid off a handful of times in the last decade and all I can do is shake my head! :nono :cover

OTTH: Federer has 3 seasons with 3 majors and Masters' wins in '04, '06, & '07

- Nadal has a couple great seasons in 2010 & '13

- Djokovic makes the "great year" list w/ historic seasons in 2011 & poss. 2015 (TBD)