Rolex Paris Masters 2018, ATP 1000

[britbox]

Djokovic leads the H2H with Khachanov 1-0. The sole encounter took place at Wimbledon this year with Djokovic winning in straights.

2018 Wimbledon R16 Grass Novak Djokovic Karen Khachanov 6-4 6-2 6-2

 

[herios]

Djokovic leads the H2H with Khachanov 1-0. The sole encounter took place at Wimbledon this year with Djokovic winning in straights.

2018 Wimbledon R16 Grass Novak Djokovic Karen Khachanov 6-4 6-2 6-2

I predict a tight match.
Karen is in the zone.

 

[monfed]

Couldn't watch the match as it was during the night. First thoughts when I saw the score... the old man gave it a good go! I thought he might be dangerous in this one.

He should've won it 7-6 7-5.

 

[monfed]

Fed is so frustrating to be a fan of. I mean he knows he has to keep slicing and dicing fakervic but somehow always resorts to the 1HBH and either hits it long or nets it. The MP netted BH was similar to the Wim 14 final. Now if he had sliced it the point would've gone on and he could've got his FH into play. Dumping a regulation BH into the net on MP is a pathetic way to lose the match.

 

[britbox]

Fed is so frustrating to be a fan of. I mean he knows he has to keep slicing and dicing fakervic but somehow always resorts to the 1HBH and either hits it long or nets it. The MP netted BH was similar to the Wim 14 final. Now if he had sliced it the point would've gone on and he could've got his FH into play. Dumping a regulation BH into the net on MP is a pathetic way to lose the match.

He's not really. Spare some thoughts for fans of players who have won a lot less (that's basically everybody).

Did anybody really expect him to come here and win Bercy? He basically said when he arrived that it was a tune-up to get some rhythm going into the YEC. He often skips this tournament anyway.

 

[britbox]

I predict a tight match.
Karen is in the zone.

Making a pick?

KK is in unchartered territory. It would be good to see a breakthrough.

 

[Moxie]

Roger has underperformed on a ton of occasions too, losing to weak Del Po in 2009 and all the awful Wimbledon losses he's had in finals and earlier rounds.

A "weak" del Potro in 2009? I think this is revisionist history. 2009 was a strong year for del Potro. I know you complain about Roger losing that USO final, and I disagree that he blew it, but don't say that del Potro was weak. It was his strongest year, before he came foul of injury. And he nearly beat Roger at RG, it should be remembered.

 

[herios]

Making a pick?

KK is in unchartered territory. It would be good to see a breakthrough.

I don't know if it will be tomorrow or later, but it will happen soon .
In the second set with Thiem, he was almost unplayable.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

fedster vs djoko was v absorbing. apart from the 1st few games which seemed scrappy.

and kk in the final...……….the 1st masters final of a fair few I think.

 

[Moxie]

I don't know if it will be tomorrow or later, but it will happen soon .
In the second set with Thiem, he was almost unplayable.

I didn't see the KK v Thiem match, but I actually though Djokovic was almost unplayable in the first set v. Roger, and still they got to a tb. Thiem looked beatable to me, prior to yesterday. And, I'll be honest, I think of KK as a ball-basher. I'd be surprised if he wins tomorrow.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Did not get to watch today's match. It is amazing that Fed was able to make the match so close. Now, I am feeling lot more positive about WTF. What a way to end the year would be, if Fed can win #100 at the WTF by beating Novak in the finals there.

 

[herios]

I didn't see the KK v Thiem match, but I actually though Djokovic was almost unplayable in the first set v. Roger, and still they got to a tb. Thiem looked beatable to me, prior to yesterday. And, I'll be honest, I think of KK as a ball-basher. I'd be surprised if he wins tomorrow.

That is exactly how I classified KK in the past, a ball basher . Not anymore.
He is retrieving well, and he volleys efficiently.

 

[DarthFed]

A "weak" del Potro in 2009? I think this is revisionist history. 2009 was a strong year for del Potro. I know you complain about Roger losing that USO final, and I disagree that he blew it, but don't say that del Potro was weak. It was his strongest year, before he came foul of injury. And he nearly beat Roger at RG, it should be remembered.

That was the definition of blowing a match. Serving for a 2 set lead at 30-15 and going for an awful drop shot when he had an easy putaway forehand.

Anyways I will admit I was overstating things, Del Po was tough back then, but that was still a debacle of a loss, one that Roger gave away. And the fact of the matter is Roger has handed the guy his only 2 notable achievements.

 

[britbox]

That was the definition of blowing a match. Serving for a 2 set lead at 30-15 and going for an awful drop shot when he had an easy putaway forehand.

Anyways I will admit I was overstating things, Del Po was tough back then, but that was still a debacle of a loss, one that Roger gave away. And the fact of the matter is Roger has handed the guy his only 2 notable achievements.

That was a pretty weird match. It's one I think got away too... Federer seemed to get really ruffled and irritated when he was in a position of strength. Delpo was an in-form guy though.

 

[DarthFed]

That was a pretty weird match. It's one I think got away too... Federer seemed to get really ruffled and irritated when he was in a position of strength. Delpo was an in-form guy though.

Yeah DP did well and it was him at his best. Perhaps he is tennis' all-time "what if" question in regards to what he could have done if injuries didn't ruin his career. He definitely is near the top of that list anyways. But you know what I think of that match anyways, Roger was a bit too happy at that time in his career and life, understandably so.

 

[Fiero425]

That was a pretty weird match. It's one I think got away too... Federer seemed to get really ruffled and irritated when he was in a position of strength. Delpo was an in-form guy though.

It's like people forget how good Del Po truly was and still is with that FH! I didn't see it, but he annihilated Rafa in the SF of that USO in '09 with shocking ease, 2, 2, & 2! When JCDP lines up his shots at times, there's nothing you can do! The ball is traveling so fast, all any player can do is watch it helplessly and say "good shot!' :whistle:

 

[lob]

That was a pretty weird match. It's one I think got away too... Federer seemed to get really ruffled and irritated when he was in a position of strength. Delpo was an in-form guy though.

Yes. It looked routine in set 1. It was Roger's match to lose. Once Roger blew set 2, DP gained a lot of confidence. He started hitting the ball very hard.

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[monfed]

USO 09 is the worst choke of Fed's career. Nothing comes close. Maybe WTF 17 but that's not a slam.

We can always apply choke to the defeats to dull and faker like Wim 08 and AO 09 and while they're chokes specially AO 09, they are to the mentally toughest players ever in both dull and faker so it's understandable. Plus Fed has matchup issues with dull and dull is probably the hardest player ever to put away so he can be excused for those losses.

But losing to delpotro who had never won a slam before, Fed had all the momentum and then to blow it up from there is easily the worst choke of his career. What should've been a straight sets victory turned into a 5 set defeat. I'm tempted to put AO 05 choke to Safin but Marat was neck n neck the entire match so it's hard to call that a clear choke but Fed did choke in the breaker losing the match from 5-2.

Had Fed won USO 09 he would've been the undisputed GOAT of both USO and Wimbledon even though he's the GOAT of USO now but still so it had historic damage.

 

[Fiero425]

Just saw Nole blow his nose with 3 break points against KK in the 4th game here! He really is under the weather! :whistle:

 

[Fiero425]

Yes. It looked routine in set 1. It was Roger's match to lose. Once Roger blew set 2, DP gained a lot of confidence. He started hitting the ball very hard.

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I didn't see it, but wasn't Roger up 2 sets to love against Anderson at Wimbledon this year? :whistle: