RIO OLYMPICS 2016

[GameSetAndMath]

Murray vs. Delpo saga will continue in the Davis CUP SF in the week after USO at Glasgow.

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

A shower? Well that is a new one. On the other hand, I am guessing once you take that break, what you do there doesn't really matter, no? Unless of course you get medical treatment or something. Is there even a time limit to these breaks? Once you take the break, does it matter what relaxes you? Number two or a shower? Never liked these breaks myself.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

A shower? Well that is a new one. On the other hand, I am guessing once you take that break, what you do there doesn't really matter, no? Unless of course you get medical treatment or something. Is there even a time limit to these breaks? Once you take the break, does it matter what relaxes you? Number two or a shower? Never liked these breaks myself.

My preference here is to have breaks at pre-decided points of time so that players cannot use it to thwart momentum (like half time in other sports).

Option 1: Give 10 minute break after every two sets.

Option 2: Give 10 minutes break after every 100 minutes (at the end of the game going on at 100 minute mark).

 

[pavlik89]

Juan Martin del Potro vs Andy Murray Highlights HD FINAL

[video=dailymotion]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4os448[/video]

 

[the AntiPusher]

WHAT????????? this is unreal and unacceptable and I hope they make something about that

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2016-08-14/23863.php

I was wondering why he took so long between sets..He definitely took advantage of the rules and put the ice on Rafa

 

[the AntiPusher]

Disappointed wanted JMDP to win. I despise Murray. I hope he gets the worst draw from hell for the US Open.

I genuinely don't see a draw that will prevent Murray making semis at least. He now displays a mental toughness that backs up his ability.

Not so fast..if Murray gets a draw that has a big server like Dr Ivo or Isner all of whom will not let Andy get into rthymn

 

[Sundaymorningguy]

I'm sorry but what mental strength is Andy showing? Nadal has been out of commission for a while with injuries, Federer nursing an injury. Of the three that beat him regularly, he has only had to contend with Djokovic consistently which he has been pretty lousy at doing. He usually beats the players he should. If he beats Djokovic at a slam again then maybe we can talk about this mental strength to go with his ability.

 

[the AntiPusher]

I'm sorry but what mental strength is Andy showing? Nadal has been out of commission for a while with injuries, Federer nursing an injury. Of the three that beat him regularly, he has only had to contend with Djokovic consistently which he has been pretty lousy at doing. He usually beats the players he should. If he beats Djokovic at a slam again then maybe we can talk about this mental strength to go with his ability.

If this about if Andy can defeat Novak in a slam, my opinion is heck no. Sure Andy has made up a lot ground between him in Novak but my money is going with the worlds number one. Look at the past few loses that Novak has endure, it's mostly due to a player making Novak uncomfortable. As for Rafa weeks play, the Rafa that plays with Lopez can be competitive with Novak because he is very attacking from the base line and is trying to move forward. The other Rafa that played singles he is getting better but I don't know if he is there yet.

 

[Kieran]

Brother, it doesn't have to be always pointed out that not only can Andy beat Novak at a slam, but he has beaten him at slams, and in two finals, no less. Just because Novak is making hay against a downtrodden weakened field, we shouldn't make the mistake everybody made during Federer's glory days and mistake this for a sign that they're better than they are. I think Andy is showing clear signs of ascendancy and he's obviously claiming titles, banging out results and filling up with confidence. He's going to go to Flushing Meadows even stronger than he was in 2012...

 

[rafanoy1992]

Brother, it doesn't have to be always pointed out that not only can Andy beat Novak at a slam, but he has beaten him at slams, and in two finals, no less. Just because Novak is making hay against a downtrodden weakened field, we shouldn't make the mistake everybody made during Federer's glory days and mistake this for a sign that they're better than they are. I think Andy is showing clear signs of ascendancy and he's obviously claiming titles, banging out results and filling up with confidence. He's going to go to Flushing Meadows even stronger than he was in 2012...

I agree, Brother Kieran

People just don't see or want to admit that Murray is a great champion and player in its own right. When he losses, fans will say well he is a mental midget and that he is not as great as Fed, Nadal, and Djokovic. But when he wins major titles, people will say that he did not beat one of the Big Three or this X player was not 100% fit.

It's like they do not want him to give full credit that he deserves.

 

[isabelle]

congrats to both Andy and Juan for this fantastic match and the great attitude they had, both of them are great champs

 

[Backhand_DTL]

Despite more than just a little bit of doubt about the merit of tennis in the Olympics, I'd have to say that I just witnessed the best match of the year. That was huge

Better than 2016 FO; Nole winning to complete a "Nole-Slam" and potential for a OGCYGS? uzzled :nono :dodgy: :cover

Nah, that match was good for 2 sets then Andy fell away. Tonight Delpo never fell away and was metaphorically carried by the Argentines in the crowd, plus the playing style contrast made it a joy to watch. It was better than the Rafa match slightly because of that more exaggerated contrast.

I think at least physically JMDP fell away after the second set. In the third and fourth he was definitely a step slower so he regularly had to go for broke on the forehand earlier than he would have wanted which mostly resulted in errors and basically any decent drop shot or DTL backhand slice won Andy the point during the last 90 minutes of the match. Andy having some down periods with multiple bad errors in a row and serving rather badly as he did all day played a big part in why Delpo was close to taking the fourth set despite his physical struggles.

So while in my opinion the overall level of play was not as high as in the Del Potro - Djokovic and Del Potro - Nadal matches it was still a very entertaining, at times dramatic final as both players fought really hard all match and produced some great rallies. In general when JMDP plays well and is up against someone with elite defensive skills a very good match is nearly guaranteed, so it's great that he seems to be back at a level that makes these high quality matches possible.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Andy's Olympic win comes with four asterisks.

* He did not play Federer
** He did not play Rafa
*** He did not play Novak
**** He played a dead tired guy with wrist issues in the final and even he took him to 4 sets and 4 hours.

For good measure, he almost lost to unknwons such as Steve Johnson, not to mention struggling against Fog.

 

[the AntiPusher]

Brother, it doesn't have to be always pointed out that not only can Andy beat Novak at a slam, but he has beaten him at slams, and in two finals, no less. Just because Novak is making hay against a downtrodden weakened field, we shouldn't make the mistake everybody made during Federer's glory days and mistake this for a sign that they're better than they are. I think Andy is showing clear signs of ascendancy and he's obviously claiming titles, banging out results and filling up with confidence. He's going to go to Flushing Meadows even stronger than he was in 2012...

I agree, Brother Kieran

People just don't see or want to admit that Murray is a great champion and player in its own right. When he losses, fans will say well he is a mental midget and that he is not as great as Fed, Nadal, and Djokovic. But when he wins major titles, people will say that he did not beat one of the Big Three or this X player was not 100% fit.

It's like they do not want him to give full credit that he deserves.

My Brothers.. I wasn't to try to discredit Andy recent success but I am being honest. Murray in a grandslam final vs Djoker is not good but I guess it is what it is. I was just looking at the past few years where Djoker has taken him to the woodshed and shawshanked Andy.uzzled

 

[Kieran]

Brother, it doesn't have to be always pointed out that not only can Andy beat Novak at a slam, but he has beaten him at slams, and in two finals, no less. Just because Novak is making hay against a downtrodden weakened field, we shouldn't make the mistake everybody made during Federer's glory days and mistake this for a sign that they're better than they are. I think Andy is showing clear signs of ascendancy and he's obviously claiming titles, banging out results and filling up with confidence. He's going to go to Flushing Meadows even stronger than he was in 2012...

I agree, Brother Kieran

People just don't see or want to admit that Murray is a great champion and player in its own right. When he losses, fans will say well he is a mental midget and that he is not as great as Fed, Nadal, and Djokovic. But when he wins major titles, people will say that he did not beat one of the Big Three or this X player was not 100% fit.

It's like they do not want him to give full credit that he deserves.

My Brothers.. I wasn't to try to discredit Andy recent success but I am being honest. Murray in a grandslam final vs Djoker is not good but I guess it is what it is. I was just looking at the past few years where Djoker has taken him to the woodshed and shawshanked Andy.uzzled

Buddy, in the last few years, The Deathless One was woodchopping Andy. Andy had a dishwashing coach and he took a long time to come recover from back surgery. Heck, he even had Jonas Bjorkman in his players box, as if things weren't troubled and mayhem enough.

He's different now. I'm not saying he will beat Novak in a slam, but that he can beat him. And I think there's a few others can beat him too, if they get their game fully together. Destroying chump change and old folks and rolling players who've lost their form completely is not the same as being better than you were when these lads were beating you...

 

[Fiero425]

I agree, Brother Kieran

People just don't see or want to admit that Murray's a great champion and player in his own right. When he loses, fans will say "well, he's a mental midget" and that "he's not as great as Fed, Nadal, & Djokovic." But when he wins major titles, people will say that "he did not beat one of the Big 3" or "this X player was not 100% fit." It's like they do not want him to get full credit that he deserves.

My Brothers.. I wasn't trying to discredit Andy's recent success, but I'm being honest. Murray in a GS final vs Djoker is not good, but I guess it is what it is. I was just looking at the past few years where Djoker has taken him to the woodshed and Shawshanked Andy. uzzled

Buddy, in the last few years, The Deathless One was wood-chopping Andy. Andy had a dishwashing coach and he took a long time to recover from back surgery. Heck, he even had Jonas Bjorkman in his players box, as if things weren't troubled and mayhem enough.

He's different now. I'm not saying he will beat Novak in a slam, but that he can beat him. And I think there's a few others who can beat him too if they get their game fully together. Destroying chump change and old folks and rolling players who've lost their form completely is not the same as being better than you were when these lads were beating you...

Oh Gawd; AGAIN? Murray had the same unlucky break that Nole had initially; playing at a time when a couple GOAT's would come into their own before him! The "Big 4" all could have ruled past eras due to their superior conditioning, drive, heart, & technique! Roger got the jump on all of them by being a little older and taking advantage of a so called weak era where he had unprecedented success; esp. at the top 2 majors in London & NYC! His foil in Rafa came along making his job harder; esp. on clay and actually took over their rivalry! Nole put in his bid for greatness, allowing Rafa to take the stage for a season, but has "OWNED IT" for the most part of 5 years! Andy has the game to be #1, to have won more majors, and set himself up in the record books but for the real GOAT's! He's done the best he can for the most part, but his defensive way of playing will shorten his career before he really makes a mark outside of the Olympics and DC! I give Murray all due credit in being better than many players from past eras with half his game, but due to timing achieved more; Becker, Edberg, Roddick, Rafter, & Rios just to name a few! :cover

 

[isabelle]

Andy's Olympic win comes with four asterisks.

* He did not play Federer
** He did not play Rafa
*** He did not play Novak
**** He played a dead tired guy with wrist issues in the final and even he took him to 4 sets and 4 hours.

For good measure, he almost lost to unknwons such as Steve Johnson, not to mention struggling against Fog.

he trashed Federer to win his first gold medal so....it's a well deserved second gold, you may like Murray or not it's a fact

 

[Kieran]

Andy's Olympic win comes with four asterisks.

* He did not play Federer
** He did not play Rafa
*** He did not play Novak
**** He played a dead tired guy with wrist issues in the final and even he took him to 4 sets and 4 hours.

For good measure, he almost lost to unknwons such as Steve Johnson, not to mention struggling against Fog.

I know you're only kidding but if we apply that method to about 15 of Federer's slams, the bloke would have more asterisks than Phelps has Olympic (and WC) medals...

 

[Tennisman12345]

That was the highest quality level of tennis seen in a very long time last week at the Olympics , Rafa v Delpo and the final were amazing matches. Best both Rafa and Delpo have also played in a long long time. Maybe they should scrap DC and make an olympic style tournament every summer instead.

Also is winning tennis gold the most difficult gold medal to win , it took Murray 4 hours , compare that to someone like Bolt who wins a gold in 10 seconds :-/

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Andy's Olympic win comes with four asterisks.

* He did not play Federer
** He did not play Rafa
*** He did not play Novak
**** He played a dead tired guy with wrist issues in the final and even he took him to 4 sets and 4 hours.

For good measure, he almost lost to unknwons such as Steve Johnson, not to mention struggling against Fog.

I know you're only kidding but if we apply that method to about 15 of Federer's slams, the bloke would have more asterisks than Phelps has Olympic (and WC) medals...

If there was a medal for best serve placement, best forehand, best slice, best tweener, best lob etc, I am sure Roger would have won more gold medals than Phelps. :snicker