"Rafael Nadal Treats His Back With Stem Cells"

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Cracking up? No. I'm perfectly serious. He needs to be healthy to beat Djokovic and that's all there is to it and how anyone could read anything else into that is beyond me.
 

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Cracking up? No. I'm perfectly serious. He needs to be healthy to beat Djokovic and that's all there is to it and how anyone could read anything else into that is beyond me.

:cover

We know what you're doing, buddy. It's starts with a cup of T, then the ball gets "rolling..." ;)
 

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Front242 said:
Cracking up? No. I'm perfectly serious. He needs to be healthy to beat Djokovic and that's all there is to it and how anyone could read anything else into that is beyond me.

Lol! I think most of us knew what you meant. Some posters live for polemic, so fail to observe the obvious pun
 

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federberg said:
Front242 said:
Cracking up? No. I'm perfectly serious. He needs to be healthy to beat Djokovic and that's all there is to it and how anyone could read anything else into that is beyond me.

Lol! I think most of us knew what you meant. Some posters live for polemic, so fail to observe the obvious pun

I got the obvious pun. Front isn't so sneaky as you are, but even you're not as slithery as you think...
 

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A lot of it stems (cough, pun intended) on how much difference Nadal's miracle treatment will make for him next year.

Careful, you're becoming a caricature of yourself. Kinda like Cali.
 

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Front242 said:
A lot of it stems (cough, pun intended) on how much difference Nadal's miracle treatment will make for him next year.

Careful, you're becoming a caricature of yourself. Kinda like Cali.

I was merely stating the obvious which is he needs to be fully fit to handle Djokovic and if this miracle treatment makes him a newly polished Robocop there's a good chance he'll stay ahead in the h2h. Djokovic will likely have the upper hand in the indoor and Asian swing as he does over basically everyone though.
 

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Front242 said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
Front242 said:
A lot of it stems (cough, pun intended) on how much difference Nadal's miracle treatment will make for him next year.

Careful, you're becoming a caricature of yourself. Kinda like Cali.

I was merely stating the obvious which is he needs to be fully fit to handle Djokovic and if this miracle treatment makes him a newly polished Robocop there's a good chance he'll stay ahead in the h2h. Djokovic will likely have the upper hand in the indoor and Asian swing as he does over basically everyone though.

What miracle treatment? Getting your appendix removed is a basic operation, it doesn't require miracles. A sudden recovery from a dodgy back would be a miracle, but it took Rafa months to get over his back this year.

I'm happy to see that Rafa is practicing hard for next year while Nole and Wodger are still to end this year... :eyepop

:laydownlaughing :lolz: :laydownlaughing
 

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Kieran said:
Front242 said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
Careful, you're becoming a caricature of yourself. Kinda like Cali.

I was merely stating the obvious which is he needs to be fully fit to handle Djokovic and if this miracle treatment makes him a newly polished Robocop there's a good chance he'll stay ahead in the h2h. Djokovic will likely have the upper hand in the indoor and Asian swing as he does over basically everyone though.

What miracle treatment? Getting your appendix removed is a basic operation, it doesn't require miracles. A sudden recovery from a dodgy back would be a miracle, but it took Rafa months to get over his back this year.

I'm happy to see that Rafa is practicing hard for next year while Nole and Wodger are still to end this year... :eyepop

:laydownlaughing :lolz: :laydownlaughing

You know damn well I'm not talking about his appendix but stem cell treatment.
 

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Front242 said:
Kieran said:
Front242 said:
I was merely stating the obvious which is he needs to be fully fit to handle Djokovic and if this miracle treatment makes him a newly polished Robocop there's a good chance he'll stay ahead in the h2h. Djokovic will likely have the upper hand in the indoor and Asian swing as he does over basically everyone though.

What miracle treatment? Getting your appendix removed is a basic operation, it doesn't require miracles. A sudden recovery from a dodgy back would be a miracle, but it took Rafa months to get over his back this year.

I'm happy to see that Rafa is practicing hard for next year while Nole and Wodger are still to end this year... :eyepop

:laydownlaughing :lolz: :laydownlaughing

You know damn well I'm not talking about his appendix but stem cell treatment.

I know damn well you're drinking "T" to get your ball "rolling..." ;)
 

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What is it about this stem cell treatment?
 

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What is it about this stem cell treatment?

Rafa is using it to help his back. It's completely legal and hopefully he comes back strong next year, after 3 part-time seasons on the tour...
 

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atttomole said:
What is it about this stem cell treatment?

Rafa is using it to help his back. It's completely legal and hopefully he comes back strong next year, after 3 part-time seasons on the tour...

There is much to be wary of with stem cell treatment and I'll post some links about it tomorrow. Bet you can't wait! I've already posted this however which shows how potentially serious a problem stem cell treatment could be for undetectable performance enhancement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/undetectable-stem-cell-treatment-could-be-the-wave-of-the-performance-enhancement-future.html
 

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Front242 said:
Kieran said:
atttomole said:
What is it about this stem cell treatment?

Rafa is using it to help his back. It's completely legal and hopefully he comes back strong next year, after 3 part-time seasons on the tour...

There is much to be wary of with stem cell treatment and I'll post some links about it tomorrow. Bet you can't wait! I've already posted this however which shows how potentially serious a problem stem cell treatment could be for undetectable performance enhancement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/undetectable-stem-cell-treatment-could-be-the-wave-of-the-performance-enhancement-future.html

Woe to you for impugning the methods of St Rafael. You should know by now that's not allowed on these boards :eyepop
 

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federberg said:
Front242 said:
Kieran said:
Rafa is using it to help his back. It's completely legal and hopefully he comes back strong next year, after 3 part-time seasons on the tour...

There is much to be wary of with stem cell treatment and I'll post some links about it tomorrow. Bet you can't wait! I've already posted this however which shows how potentially serious a problem stem cell treatment could be for undetectable performance enhancement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/undetectable-stem-cell-treatment-could-be-the-wave-of-the-performance-enhancement-future.html

Woe to you for impugning the methods of St Rafael. You should know by now that's not allowed on these boards :eyepop

You guys are turning into complete jokes, by the way, with regards to all things Nadal. You especially, are better than that.
 

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Front242 said:
Kieran said:
atttomole said:
What is it about this stem cell treatment?

Rafa is using it to help his back. It's completely legal and hopefully he comes back strong next year, after 3 part-time seasons on the tour...

There is much to be wary of with stem cell treatment and I'll post some links about it tomorrow. Bet you can't wait! I've already posted this however which shows how potentially serious a problem stem cell treatment could be for undetectable performance enhancement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/undetectable-stem-cell-treatment-could-be-the-wave-of-the-performance-enhancement-future.html

I see. Biological systems are complex and the possibility of abuse is there. The fact that tissue can be removed from the body, processed and then injected back into the body may leave many experts concerned. Anything can be chucked into the tissue during processing before injection back into the body. The problem is what is allowed and what is not. I hope sports authorities can sort out the chaos. Historically, doping controls have been always been behind advancements in biotech. It took a French scientist's new analytical method to determine that Lance was cheating. The scientist was able to develop a method that could distinguish between natural EPO and synthetic EPO. Now EPO can be made in the lab using genes and expressing it bacteria. Science has developed to a point that many biological substances that are normally produced in the body can now be made in the lab, which makes it difficult to detect any substance that may be considered illegal.

Working in the field of science, I have also noticed similar problems in publications or patents in the areas of biotech. Many publications have been withdrawn because reviewers are not easily able to detect manipulation of data by authors who are trying to strengthen their claims. Sometimes it has taken decades for some claims to be debunked. I was disappointed when I learnt that some papers I had read, and was planning to use the published methods have now been withdrawn because of data falsification. These problems are more common in the biosciences because of the complexity of biological systems.
 

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Kieran said:
atttomole said:
What is it about this stem cell treatment?

Rafa is using it to help his back. It's completely legal and hopefully he comes back strong next year, after 3 part-time seasons on the tour...

Hey, if it works for Ralf, maybe Fed and Murray can use it for their bad backs. :rolleyes:
 

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Broken_Shoelace said:
federberg said:
Front242 said:
There is much to be wary of with stem cell treatment and I'll post some links about it tomorrow. Bet you can't wait! I've already posted this however which shows how potentially serious a problem stem cell treatment could be for undetectable performance enhancement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/undetectable-stem-cell-treatment-could-be-the-wave-of-the-performance-enhancement-future.html

Woe to you for impugning the methods of St Rafael. You should know by now that's not allowed on these boards :eyepop

You guys are turning into complete jokes, by the way, with regards to all things Nadal. You especially, are better than that.

Lol! I don't spend my life hating on Rafa. As simple as that may seem. I admit I was being provocative because the defensiveness when any slightly negative comment is made about him is amusing. The same people (not you.. the maggot knows who he is) are only to keen to make sly comments about Federer, and that seems to be ok! Anyway.. until tomorrow
 

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federberg said:
Broken_Shoelace said:
federberg said:
Woe to you for impugning the methods of St Rafael. You should know by now that's not allowed on these boards :eyepop

You guys are turning into complete jokes, by the way, with regards to all things Nadal. You especially, are better than that.

Lol! I don't spend my life hating on Rafa. As simple as that may seem. I admit I was being provocative because the defensiveness when any slightly negative comment is made about him is amusing. The same people (not you.. the maggot knows who he is) are only to keen to make sly comments about Federer, and that seems to be ok! Anyway.. until tomorrow

In this case there are implications of PEDs, which Front explained in another thread re: stem cells a while ago. I take that as more than a "slightly negative comment."
 

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I don't have time to post links now as I'm getting ready to go to work but suffice to say the same problems exist with stem cell treatment as with PRP and the ability to use it with masked substances such as again, HGH and maybe it's all too coincidental that he had career years in 2010 and 2013 after said PRP treatments. If the stem cell treatment works the same way, expect more of the same in 2015. So yeah, that would make it slightly negative for all non Nadal fans as it casts a massive cloud of doubt over what exactly was administered along with said treatments together with the lack of proper doping controls in tennis.
 

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If Rafa took a cup of water, Front would post a link saying there could be possibly something in the water. When Rafa was a baby and got his vaccine jabs, Front posted a link saying it should be banned, and here's why.

Stem cell treatments are legal. WADA approved. And WADA are the outfit Front approves of.

Where sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, cynicism is its intellectual equivalent. It's a lowbrow intelligence. It's based upon nothing logical or insightful. You can see that when Front posts about Rafa. Because Rafa beats Federer, Front has to smear him. Better that, than to face the truth. Front is on about ten different threads stating that WADA should be looking after the drugs testing in tennis, and now here's Rafa using WADA approved treatment and Front is still not happy.

Why not? Because it's Rafa.

The hypocrisy is obvious and it's getting a bit boring now. Especially when Front knows well that his own tinpot idol could be treated with equal suspicions, though thankfully he's not.

Get over it, Front, Rafa thumps your boy fair and square, and you just can't handle it, buddy... ;)