Poll : 2014 USO quarter : Federer vs Monfils

[Billie]

OMG, you would do that to "good ol' pops" just ship him somewhere?

I am surprised that Fed fans are so dismissive of other players as if Federer makes final after final of majors in recent years.

Based on the form from previous matches here, Monfils should have this in 3 or 4. Besides he is very "'appy" at the moment. He played amazingly vs Dimitrov. If he doesn't play like that and Federer raises his level, then it is a different story. It has a potential to be a very entertaining match.

Based on form Roger is trouncing him my dear Dimitrov is not the Roger we've been seeing...

If Roger shows up erratic then this becomes a potentially tough match, we know Gael will get a lot back in play.

Ha, I watched the whole match last night and I thought that RBA was so nervous and intimidated that he could hardly serve and put the ball in play on many occasions. Yet he had several break points and failed on all of them except one. Well anyway that is just my opinion, it doesn't mean that it is right, I just think that Monfils is a different animal than RBA and played better against a better opponent than Federer. One thing is sure, Federer will always play solidly and it will be up to Monfils to show up and make a match out of it.

 

[tented]

OMG, you would do that to "good ol' pops" just ship him somewhere?

I am surprised that Fed fans are so dismissive of other players as if Federer makes final after final of majors in recent years.

Based on the form from previous matches here, Monfils should have this in 3 or 4. Besides he is very "'appy" at the moment. He played amazingly vs Dimitrov. If he doesn't play like that and Federer raises his level, then it is a different story. It has a potential to be a very entertaining match.

Based on form Roger is trouncing him my dear Dimitrov is not the Roger we've been seeing...

Yeah, Roger will win this in straights, and it could very well be a beat down.

 

[nehmeth]

Ha, I watched the whole match last night and I thought that RBA was so nervous and intimidated that he could hardly serve and put the ball in play on many occasions. Yet he had several break points and failed on all of them except one. Well anyway that is just my opinion, it doesn't mean that it is right, I just think that Monfils is a different animal than RBA and played better against a better opponent than Federer. One thing is sure, Federer will always play solidly and it will be up to Monfils to show up and make a match out of it.

We must have seen the same match Billie! Was thinking similar thoughts as I watched it. I still think Roger beats Monfils in three, but the way Agut was playing out there, he'd make anyone look 'great'.

 

[DarthFed]

OMG, you would do that to "good ol' pops" just ship him somewhere?

I am surprised that Fed fans are so dismissive of other players as if Federer makes final after final of majors in recent years.

Based on the form from previous matches here, Monfils should have this in 3 or 4. Besides he is very "'appy" at the moment. He played amazingly vs Dimitrov. If he doesn't play like that and Federer raises his level, then it is a different story. It has a potential to be a very entertaining match.

Based on form Roger is trouncing him my dear Dimitrov is not the Roger we've been seeing...

If Roger shows up erratic then this becomes a potentially tough match, we know Gael will get a lot back in play.

Ha, I watched the whole match last night and I thought that RBA was so nervous and intimidated that he could hardly serve and put the ball in play on many occasions. Yet he had several break points and failed on all of them except one. Well anyway that is just my opinion, it doesn't mean that it is right, I just think that Monfils is a different animal than RBA and played better against a better opponent than Federer. One thing is sure, Federer will always play solidly and it will be up to Monfils to show up and make a match out of it.

Roger was bullying him around the court and mostly messing around at net which is what got him into trouble a few times. Agut didn't have a prayer. Monfils is certainly a different animal than RBA but if Roger plays as clean as he's been playing he will win. And I hope you aren't saying Dimitrov is a better opponent than Roger? The kid is as of now the most overrated player in tennis. We need to give him another year or 2 and then he will be a true force. I was practically giggling hearing people talk about how he would beat Roger in the QF.

One thing I will say is that Roger isn't serving great at the moment and that could get him in trouble vs. Monfils and absolutely WOULD get him in trouble vs. Berd and absolutely WOULD mean no win vs. Nole in the final. He will have to pick that up.

 

[Front242]

Yeah, when he was 5-1 up against Agut he clearly knew the set was in the bag and started to frankly to use the set as a practice session at the net. Nearly backfired and bit him on the ass with some poor play to let Agut get back to only lose the set 6-4 but I'm glad Roger got the practice at the net.

 

[Billie]

Ha, I watched the whole match last night and I thought that RBA was so nervous and intimidated that he could hardly serve and put the ball in play on many occasions. Yet he had several break points and failed on all of them except one. Well anyway that is just my opinion, it doesn't mean that it is right, I just think that Monfils is a different animal than RBA and played better against a better opponent than Federer. One thing is sure, Federer will always play solidly and it will be up to Monfils to show up and make a match out of it.

We must have seen the same match Billie! Was thinking similar thoughts as I watched it. I still think Roger beats Monfils in three, but the way Agut was playing out there, he'd make anyone look 'great'.

I got burned a few times like that with Nole. He would crush an easy opponent and then he comes up against much better opposition and doesn't look that hot. Anyway since I am going on a trip early in the morning, I hope I can get to our hotel in time to watch this match, hopefully it is at night. I am really interested to see how it goes.

I know one thing for sure, Monfils is Monfils and he will make it an entertaining affair.

 

[Front242]

My take on beat downs is this: all the top guys can play far from their best and make the score look great so play like that easily beats nobodies...but equally so it beats nobody good!

 

[DarthFed]

Yeah, when he was 5-1 up against Agut he clearly knew the set was in the bag and started to frankly to use the set as a practice session at the net. Nearly backfired and bit him on the ass with some poor play to let Agut get back to only lose the set 6-4 but I'm glad Roger got the practice at the net.

Practice at net will prove overrated vs. Berd and Nole though. Roger needs to pick his spots well against players like that instead of rushing in on garbage.

 

[Front242]

Look no further than here. Andy Murray defeats Blaz Rola 6-1 6-1 6-0 at Wimbledon and then loses 6-1, 7-6, 6-2 with only one competitive set against Dimitrov. Thus, no point reading anything into form by beating nobodies.

 

[Backhand_DTL]

It's interesting that Federer lost 4 matches this year, where his opponent beat Dimitrov before (against Nadal at the Australian Open, Nishikori in Miami, Novak at Wimbledon and Tsonga in Toronto). I don't know if he won any match where he faced the player who took out Grigor immediately before, so it looks like having played Dimitrov might turn out as a good preparation for Monfils.

But I think Roger in 4 is the most likely outcome. Monfils often plays very well at a certain point of a match and that could be enough to take a set, but if he doesn't get the first two sets I don't see him winning.

 

[Front242]

Yeah, when he was 5-1 up against Agut he clearly knew the set was in the bag and started to frankly to use the set as a practice session at the net. Nearly backfired and bit him on the ass with some poor play to let Agut get back to only lose the set 6-4 but I'm glad Roger got the practice at the net.

Practice at net will prove overrated vs. Berd and Nole though. Roger needs to pick his spots well against players like that instead of rushing in on garbage.

Yeah definitely. He played a lot of truly woeful approach shots against Agut but Berd and Novak will pass him at ease doing that. He has to do more with his volleys too. Some are great lately and some are frankly pure shite. I always cringe when he hits a powder puff soft volley right back to the opponent as if to say: "here, I don't want it, it's all yours. Oh, this is tennis not football. I forgot no brownie points for possession". No idea why he does that crap. Instead of hitting it the opposite direction he hits it right back to the opponent and he does this so often! Ludicrous.

 

[DarthFed]

^ Weird stat. Due to end sometime

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Monfils was asked recently in an interview as to how come he has become a serious
player suddenly. Monfils assured them that it is not the case and he is still a clown and
he just accidentally happened to win all the matches in three sets. So, first problem
solved.

Monfils tends to play from two miles behind the baseline. So, expect Fed to come
in a lot to the net and with a very good success rate. Also, expect Fed to engage in
drop shots periodically to keep Monfils in check. I expect Roger to have huge success
in the net points and in drop shots in this match.

If for some reason Roger decides to play (which I am sure he will not) grinding
rallies from the baseline expect Gael to have an upper hand.

Roger is not very sharp and so I expect him to cough up a set.

Roger will win this one in 4 sets. The first set will be won by Roger with a
score line of 6-4 or 6-3 (with just one break). The second one will go to a tie breaker
and will be won by Gael. The third set will be won again by Roger with just one break.
By this time, the spirit of Gael would be crushed and the final set would be won by
Roger with a score line of 6-2.

 

[Billie]

It's interesting that Federer lost 4 matches this year, where his opponent beat Dimitrov before (against Nadal at the Australian Open, Nishikori in Miami, Novak at Wimbledon and Tsonga in Toronto). I don't know if he won any match where he faced the player who took out Grigor immediately before, so it looks like having played Dimitrov might turn out as a good preparation for Monfils.

But I think Roger in 4 is the most likely outcome. Monfils often plays very well at a certain point of a match and that could be enough to take a set, but if he doesn't get the first two sets I don't see him winning.

That is certainly interesting. Maybe there is something in playing a similar player like Dimitrov that gives players good preparation when they come up against Federer next.

 

[Backhand_DTL]

^ Weird stat. Due to end sometime

Yes, I wouldn't read too much into it, but I thought it was somewhat remarkable. Him losing to Rafa and Novak wasn't really surprising anyway, but he was the favorite in the other two matches. Also for Miami I'm not sure if Nishikori faced Dimitrov in R3 or R4, so he might have had another match in between.

 

[Front242]

^ Watching Dimitrov yesterday, even the FHs he hits miles long and BH shanks look just like Roger's. A lot of similarity in their games for sure though I'm sure he's not too keen on that part

 

[tented]

^ Weird stat. Due to end sometime

Yes, I wouldn't read too much into it, but I thought it was somewhat interesting. Him losing to Rafa and Novak wasn't really surprising anyway, but he was the favorite in the other two matches. Also for Miami I'm not sure if Nishikori faced Dimitrov in R3 or R4, so he might have had another match in between.

Agreed. Interesting coincidences, but just that. Nothing more.

 

[Kenneth]

That Frenchie looks strong. I've read he's been without a coach for a while and still look what a good job he's doing. Very eager to see the game! Still guessing that Federer is going to win in 5.

 

[Federberg]

http://www.thestar.com/sports/doug_smiths_sports_blog/2014/09/federer_is_the_gold_standard_for_all_professional_athletes.html?

for anyone interested..

 

[DarthFed]

Hope Roger makes quick work tonight, come 8:30 Eastern there is more important business to attend to.