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I do make sense. You don't make sense..if you want to have empathy towards Novak's plight or someone's else's who are hesitant to the accuracy of the vaccine so be it. Don't judge me if my thoughts don't align with your thoughts. I am triple vaccinated plus took the flu vaccine vaccination shot. The booster shot had me pretty much bed ridden for more than 6 hours. Do you think I enjoyed suffering like that for something if everyone would have complied to take the vaccine we may have a opportunity to kill the virus or reduce the amount of Covid infections to numbers where we could go back to live a normal life.. Mike ..my logic makes sense to a lot of people who feel like me ( maybe the other 7 billion people who has received the vaccine).
Do you realize that Nole is in much greater danger (if unvaccinated) of being infected than himself can harm the vaccinated?
 

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But let’s turn to tennis. Nole won the 37th Masters.
He is very strong at the moment, I think.
Will he continue on the path to success in Turin?
 
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If Djoker wins some more points in Torino, he can stay No.1 even he doesn't win Ozzy. He showed he is still No.1 actually.
 
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Do you realize that Nole is in much greater danger (if unvaccinated) of being infected than himself can harm the vaccinated?
I don't give a fuck about Novak chances of getting infected. I am more concerned about him infecting others who are practicing social distancing and trying to prevent the chances of Covid 19 virus recking havoc on them and their loved ones immune system. What about this is not clear to you and others who think like you?
 

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I don't give a fuck about Novak chances of getting infected. I am more concerned about him infecting others who are practicing social distancing and trying to prevent the chances of Covid 19 virus recking havoc on them and their loved ones immune system. What about this is not clear to you and others who think like you?
I don't care as you give a fuck to the chance that Nole will be infected nor I care that you are worried about the health of some tennis players there, more than the tournament organizers. Talk about tennis if you have something to say.
 

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Really, My undergrad degree is Data Sciences and I work as a Senior Cyber Security Manager in Silicon valley... Really Dude . Really
So what? Your statement expressed ignorance of the fact that vaccinated people can get and transmit Covid. I mean, the implication that Daniil shouldn't hug Novak because he's unvaxxed is not only ignorant but gross. Would you like Novak to wear an armband?
 
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Back to tennis, Novak keeps padding his record. It will be interesting to see just how gaudy his numbers end up looking. 22+ Slams? 45+ Masters? Another WTF or two? Where does the madness end?

Here's a crazy stat: Novak and Roger both have more Slams, Tour Finals, and Masters than Becker, Edberg, and Wilander COMBINED.

Roger: 20 Slams, 6 TF, 28 Masters
Novak: 20 Slams, 5 TF, 37 Masters
Becker/Edberg/Wilander: 19 Slams, 4 TF, 26 Masters
 

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Back to tennis, Novak keeps padding his record. It will be interesting to see just how gaudy his numbers end up looking. 22+ Slams? 45+ Masters? Another WTF or two? Where does the madness end?

Here's a crazy stat: Novak and Roger both have more Slams, Tour Finals, and Masters than Becker, Edberg, and Wilander COMBINED.

Roger: 20 Slams, 6 TF, 28 Masters
Novak: 20 Slams, 5 TF, 37 Masters
Becker/Edberg/Wilander: 19 Slams, 4 TF, 26 Masters
As someone pointed out earlier, he also gets his stand-alone most years at YE#1. Depending on how much he choses to play next year, and results, he might add another one of those for good measure, too. I'm resigned to Djokovic ending his career with some pretty "gaudy" numbers, as you say. I'm still hoping that Rafa can surpass him in the Majors count, and maybe Masters.

Today's match was a pretty good one, particularly after the two traded blow-outs at Major finals earlier in the year. Could be shaping up into a good rivalry.

As to Covid vaccination/natural immunity, I will say this, then take it to the Covid vaccination thread: For those who are vaccine resistant around here, one of the arguments is that we don't have long-term data on the vaccines. By the same token, we don't have long-term data on natural immunity. Best I can find is the range is estimated between 3 months to 5 years. That's quite the spread.
 

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So what? Your statement expressed ignorance of the fact that vaccinated people can get and transmit Covid. I mean, the implication that Daniil shouldn't hug Novak because he's unvaxxed is not only ignorant but gross. Would you like Novak to wear an armband?
Call me ignorant..blah blah blah...it's not going change anything..I said if I was Daniil..you call it gross, I don't care. I ain't touching Novak. This is a pandemic, he can hug Novak in two years when this pandemic is over..I recently met a old friend for lunch and I didn't discover until afterwards he is an antivacca person..I told him we are not going to meet again until he is vaccinated or the pandemic is over. It's might RIGHT to be bias or as you say GROSS. Who cares how you or anyone else feels about it.
 
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I don't care as you give a fuck to the chance that Nole will be infected nor I care that you are worried about the health of some tennis players there, more than the tournament organizers. Talk about tennis if you have something to say.
You started this trying to defend Novak's unvaccinated ass. Tennis was good but nothing that I couldn't have missed. Daniil's victory at USO mattered. Today's match was a good win but nothing more
 
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You started this trying to defend Novak's unvaccinated ass. Tennis was good but nothing that I couldn't have missed. Daniil's victory at USO mattered. Today's match was a good win but nothing more
It's not true. I did not defend Nole, especially not because he was not vaccinated. Especially I did not start this and such a discussion about covid.
Take a look at today’s posts slightly better.
 

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It's not true. I did not defend Nole, especially not because he was not vaccinated. Especially I did not start this and such a discussion about covid.
Take a look at today’s posts slightly better.
Bottom line is, he's going to have to face the Australian protocols re: Covid. What we're all wondering is if he will get the vaccine, if mandated. He's been very cagey as to his position. (And he's not the only one.) @El Dude suggested that he might just "pretend" to get the vaccine. How do you feel about that? Or, otherwise, should he get the vaccine, if it's the only way he plays the AO?
 

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Bottom line is, he's going to have to face the Australian protocols re: Covid. What we're all wondering is if he will get the vaccine, if mandated. He's been very cagey as to his position. (And he's not the only one.) @El Dude suggested that he might just "pretend" to get the vaccine. How do you feel about that? Or, otherwise, should he get the vaccine, if it's the only way he plays the AO?
Just to be clear (as I live in Australia) people coming from overseas have to show on their passport they are 'double vaccinated' to authorities.Novak or other players cannot 'pretend to get the vaccine'.It also applies if Australians want to travel to other parts of the world we have to show we are double vaccinated and take a test showing that we are COVID negative prior to arriving in countries.
 

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As someone pointed out earlier, he also gets his stand-alone most years at YE#1. Depending on how much he choses to play next year, and results, he might add another one of those for good measure, too. I'm resigned to Djokovic ending his career with some pretty "gaudy" numbers, as you say. I'm still hoping that Rafa can surpass him in the Majors count, and maybe Masters.
It isn't impossible, and is certainly more likely than Roger finding Utnapishtim's hidden plant.

I think Rafa's road to the Slam crown is (aside from an injury to Novak) if he can outlast Novak by staying primed for Roland Garros. Meaning, while Novak still has the better chance of winning any given Slam, Rafa could remain relevant at RG beyond when Novak is relevant at all. I see a situation going forward where more and players can challenge Novak, while Rafa has a chance at remaining the top dog at RG. But I don't think he can do it on his own. He needs Novak to waver and be in his best shape for RG for three or more years.

I think no matter who ends up with the crown, 23 will do it. I don't think more than one of them wins more than 22. I could see Novak and Rafa ending up with 22 a piece (and Roger 20), but I don't see Novak and Rafa ending up with 23+ a piece. There are only so many Slams to go around, and that would require them winning 6+ more total, which at their age seems unlikely - especially as the field deepens and improves. There are just too many potential landmines out there.
As to Covid vaccination/natural immunity, I will say this, then take it to the Covid vaccination thread: For those who are vaccine resistant around here, one of the arguments is that we don't have long-term data on the vaccines. By the same token, we don't have long-term data on natural immunity. Best I can find is the range is estimated between 3 months to 5 years. That's quite the spread.
Right. But we also have data on mortality rate, and it is about 1% overall. If you're a super-athlete, it is far, far less than that.
 

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Bottom line is, he's going to have to face the Australian protocols re: Covid. What we're all wondering is if he will get the vaccine, if mandated. He's been very cagey as to his position. (And he's not the only one.) @El Dude suggested that he might just "pretend" to get the vaccine. How do you feel about that? Or, otherwise, should he get the vaccine, if it's the only way he plays the AO?
I respect Nole's right to be vaccinated or not. I don't think anyone should force him to get vaccinated. I don't care if someone will allow him not to participate in the AO because of that. He showed and proved his best.
Personally, I am too far from antivaccers, I am even their enemy, but I have respect for their decision for a personal matter.
 
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We gave to Novak some 13 GS some years ago. Wondering what would be the reaction if some would say 23 that time.

We will see.
 

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I wasn't´t surprised about the hugs, Medvedev and Novak seem to be very close friends...
 

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Hi everyone.

I enjoyed this final of my two favourite players very much.
In my opinion they are currently the two best players , especially on HC.And both played very well.
Novak showed what he could have done a few weeks ago in the US Open F, without the huge pressure of CYGS.
It was one of his three best matches this year, after the AO F and the FO SF.
 

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Hi everyone.

I enjoyed this final of my two favourite players very much.
In my opinion they are currently the two best players , especially on HC.And both played very well.
Novak showed what he could have done a few weeks ago in the US Open F, without the huge pressure of CYGS.
It was one of his three best matches this year, after the AO F and the FO SF.
Please...now you should say that those matches were a classic..... :lol6: