Nadal's gonna be world #1 again!

[brokenshoelace]

Kieran, please put my name on this list. I believe Nadal will be the number 1 player in the world again. Very soon.

 

[Kieran]

Kieran, please put my name on this list. I believe Nadal will be the number 1 player in the world again. Very soon.

:lolz: :clap You're on!

He's been magnificent since he came back, irresistible for the main part, and there's nobody could have predicted that. He's embraced every challenge and battered on. So happy he's at the top again, "happy for that, no?", because to me, that's where he always belongs.

By the way, before I started that thread way back on tennis.com, it was in consultation with Moxie and Tented by pm's, and none of us believed Nadal was built to fade away, to be Novak's punch-bag. The thread almost came up before the two spring HC's events in America, but if memory serves, it was put up after Nadal had recognised discretion as being the better part of valour and withdrawn from the semi against Murray in Miami. Djoker won the event. Myself and Moxie and T watched it all and still believed.

Then the thread came out, a wobbly boat placed on a very low tide, to jeers, cheers and beers. Well, the ship has now come in and Rafa's fist-pumping it to glory. And tomorrow, he might face Novak again, and Nole may win and the rivalry goes into yet another rivetting spiral.

Great game this, tennis! Even with Federer mulling over his options and Murray in his sickbed, we have two great players to appreciate and cheer...

 

[huntingyou]

I just want to point out whose name is first on the list after Kieran.........just saying!

 

[Murat Baslamisli]

Uhm...I...believe Nadal will be number one again...I mean AFTER he loses this number 1 spot, he will regain it. So, I am number one on THAT list...

 

[Kieran]

I just want to point out whose name is first on the list after Kieran.........just saying!

Oh, I'll go even further back, and say it's Tented, followed swiftly by sista Moxie.

 

[huntingyou]

I just want to point out whose name is first on the list after Kieran.........just saying!

Oh, I'll go even further back, and say it's Tented, followed swiftly by sista Moxie.

don't piss on my cheerios man

anyways, I have always said a healthy Rafa it's the best player in the world.....unless the divine happens and that's what Novak was in 2011. But such things are not meant to last...so here we are again, the defacto pecking order it's restored!

 

[Kieran]

I just want to point out whose name is first on the list after Kieran.........just saying!

Oh, I'll go even further back, and say it's Tented, followed swiftly by sista Moxie.

don't piss on my cheerios man

anyways, I have always said a healthy Rafa it's the best player in the world.....unless the divine happens and that's what Novak was in 2011. But such things are not meant to last...so here we are again, the defacto pecking order it's restored!

:snigger I wouldn't dare go near your Cheerios!

Totally agree about the pecking order - let's hope it lasts as long as Rafa does!

 

[calitennis127]

Djokovic never should have lost the French Open or US Open matches against Nadal. He played well below his best level in each of those matches.

The US Open meltdown was particularly inexcusable. He had that match in the palm of his hands in the third set and was completely dictating play.

The pecking order paradigm you all are discussing wasn't so clear when Djokovic had Nadal watching winners fly by him early in that 3rd set.

 

[Kieran]

What about them winners at 4-4, 0-40?

Exhilarating stuff, eh?

 

[DarthFed]

Djokovic never should have lost the French Open or US Open matches against Nadal. He played well below his best level in each of those matches.

The US Open meltdown was particularly inexcusable. He had that match in the palm of his hands in the third set and was completely dictating play.

The pecking order paradigm you all are discussing wasn't so clear when Djokovic had Nadal watching winners fly by him early in that 3rd set.

You don't get style points for failure. Djokovic is too nice, flaky or whatever you want to call it to dominate matches from start to finish. As soon as it got to 4-4 I knew the match was over...

Nole is going to have to mentally press the reset button otherwise he will quickly dip down to irrelevance.

 

[huntingyou]

Djokovic never should have lost the French Open or US Open matches against Nadal. He played well below his best level in each of those matches.

The US Open meltdown was particularly inexcusable. He had that match in the palm of his hands in the third set and was completely dictating play.

The pecking order paradigm you all are discussing wasn't so clear when Djokovic had Nadal watching winners fly by him early in that 3rd set.

You don't get style points for failure. Djokovic is too nice, flaky or whatever you want to call it to dominate matches from start to finish. As soon as it got to 4-4 I knew the match was over...

Nole is going to have to mentally press the reset button otherwise he will quickly dip down to irrelevance.

you and your excuse, it's always something Novak it's doing wrong.....nothing Rafa it's doing right.

Novak wasn't too nice when he beat Rafa 7 consecutives times; but did you think such dominance was going to last?

Eventually the pendulum will swing again in Novak's favor.....and Rafa will suffer some frustrating defeats but I won't take credit from Novak. This is a rivalry with some chapters left to be written.

BTW, it took Delpo and Murray to take down Novak at SW19, obviously he won the big match down in AO and pushed Rafa to a 5 set at RG. What happened at the UO was a matter of momentum, once the Rafa train departs port it's impossible to stop.........but it will stop on its own eventually.

 

[kskate2]

Oh Cali, stop it w/ the Novak shouldn't have lost stuff. He did. :chillout: If we follow your logic, then Nadal should not have been out for 7 months. Then guess what happens? We aren't even having this conversation.

In other news, congrats to Nadal for regaining #1. Like him or not, he completely deserves it for a fantastic year. :clap

 

[DarthFed]

Djokovic never should have lost the French Open or US Open matches against Nadal. He played well below his best level in each of those matches.

The US Open meltdown was particularly inexcusable. He had that match in the palm of his hands in the third set and was completely dictating play.

The pecking order paradigm you all are discussing wasn't so clear when Djokovic had Nadal watching winners fly by him early in that 3rd set.

You don't get style points for failure. Djokovic is too nice, flaky or whatever you want to call it to dominate matches from start to finish. As soon as it got to 4-4 I knew the match was over...

Nole is going to have to mentally press the reset button otherwise he will quickly dip down to irrelevance.

you and your excuse, it's always something Novak it's doing wrong.....nothing Rafa it's doing right.

Novak wasn't too nice when he beat Rafa 7 consecutives times; but did you think such dominance was going to last?

Eventually the pendulum will swing again in Novak's favor.....and Rafa will suffer some frustrating defeats but I won't take credit from Novak. This is a rivalry with some chapters left to be written.

BTW, it took Delpo and Murray to take down Novak at SW19, obviously he won the big match down in AO and pushed Rafa to a 5 set at RG. What happened at the UO was a matter of momentum, once the Rafa train departs port it's impossible to stop.........but it will stop on its own eventually.

It is not an excuse, I'm just pointing out the obvious, Nole is inconsistent and once the 3rd set turned there was only 1 winner.

And who is making excuses again when you talk about Del Po and Murray taking him down? You could make that argument if the final was close. Murray is better on grass and the last 2 years...he is tougher than Nole too

 

[brokenshoelace]

Djokovic never should have lost the French Open or US Open matches against Nadal. He played well below his best level in each of those matches.

The second part of your statement completely exposes the silliness of the first. If Djokovic played "well below his best," then he absolutely should have lost.

 

[Iona16]

Djokovic never should have lost the French Open or US Open matches against Nadal. He played well below his best level in each of those matches.

The US Open meltdown was particularly inexcusable. He had that match in the palm of his hands in the third set and was completely dictating play.

The pecking order paradigm you all are discussing wasn't so clear when Djokovic had Nadal watching winners fly by him early in that 3rd set.

You don't get style points for failure. Djokovic is too nice, flaky or whatever you want to call it to dominate matches from start to finish. As soon as it got to 4-4 I knew the match was over...

Nole is going to have to mentally press the reset button otherwise he will quickly dip down to irrelevance.

BTW, it took Delpo and Murray to take down Novak at SW19, obviously he won the big match down in AO and pushed Rafa to a 5 set at RG. What happened at the UO was a matter of momentum, once the Rafa train departs port it's impossible to stop.........but it will stop on its own eventually.

I don't recall seeing Del Potro in the final. I'm pretty sure Andy beat Novak on his own. In fact he beat him in straight sets, just like he did when they played the year before in the Olympics.

Anyway, huge congrats to Rafa. #1 when the rankings come out on Monday.

 

[Front242]

Pretty sure he was referring to the fatigue factor and it was definitely a factor as the match against Del Potro was a very draining match not only physically, but mentally. But playing crap was Djokovic's biggest downfall. And his monster fitness from 2011 has definitely gone down a few notches.

 

[Iona16]

Pretty sure he was referring to the fatigue factor and it was definitely a factor as the match against Del Potro was a very draining match not only physically, but mentally. But playing crap was Djokovic's biggest downfall. And his monster fitness from 2011 has definitely gone down a few notches.

You know we could all try and diminish a slam win if we tried. I could argue that fatigue and blisters played a part in the Australian Open final this year. Murray should never have let his semi final match with Fed go to 5 but he did. If he was tired and suffering blisters in the final then it was his own fault. Lesson learned I hope. It's all irrelevant though because he played the final and Djokovic won. End of.

 

[Front242]

Pretty sure he was referring to the fatigue factor and it was definitely a factor as the match against Del Potro was a very draining match not only physically, but mentally. But playing crap was Djokovic's biggest downfall. And his monster fitness from 2011 has definitely gone down a few notches.

You know we could all try and diminish a slam win if we tried. I could argue that fatigue and blisters played a part in the Australian Open final this year. Murray should never have let his semi final match with Fed go to 5 but he did. If he was tired and suffering blisters in the final then it was his own fault. Lesson learned I hope. It's all irrelevant though because he played the final and Djokovic won. End of.

Wasn't trying to diminish Andy's win in any way. He played very well. Not great all match but far better than Djokovic and the win was very much deserved, but just saying it if your opponent had a very tough semi it definitely hurts their chances somewhat. 5 set matches against Fed are never that taxing as it's a totally different style of match and it was a pretty short 5 set match too. But look, they both deserved their respective wins and no one is disputing that. Hope Andy's recovering well too and it's a shame he's not out there playing now. Still waiting to see how he fares against Rafa.

 

[DarthFed]

Pretty sure he was referring to the fatigue factor and it was definitely a factor as the match against Del Potro was a very draining match not only physically, but mentally. But playing crap was Djokovic's biggest downfall. And his monster fitness from 2011 has definitely gone down a few notches.

He always resorts to fatigue to excuse a loss when he sees fit. It was hardly a factor, Andy is better on grass to begin with and it is a bad matchup for Nole there and even by then I saw Djokovic was having "big match issues." Add it all up and it was a walk in the park for Murray. If they play there next year you will see more of the same

 

[Moxie]

Pretty sure he was referring to the fatigue factor and it was definitely a factor as the match against Del Potro was a very draining match not only physically, but mentally. But playing crap was Djokovic's biggest downfall. And his monster fitness from 2011 has definitely gone down a few notches.

You know we could all try and diminish a slam win if we tried. I could argue that fatigue and blisters played a part in the Australian Open final this year. Murray should never have let his semi final match with Fed go to 5 but he did. If he was tired and suffering blisters in the final then it was his own fault. Lesson learned I hope. It's all irrelevant though because he played the final and Djokovic won. End of.

Wasn't trying to diminish Andy's win in any way. He played very well. Not great all match but far better than Djokovic and the win was very much deserved, but just saying it if your opponent had a very tough semi it definitely hurts their chances somewhat. 5 set matches against Fed are never that taxing as it's a totally different style of match and it was a pretty short 5 set match too. But look, they both deserved their respective wins and no one is disputing that. Hope Andy's recovering well too and it's a shame he's not out there playing now. Still waiting to see how he fares against Rafa.

I have to disagree about that Wimbledon final. Andy played with focus and intention. Very few dips. Since Djokovic has been capable of a 5-set semi followed by a 5-set win in a Major, the real reason that he lost at Wimbledon against Murray this year is that Andy played much better.

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