Is Nadal still undefeated in GS when not injured?

[StantheMan]

When was the last time Nadal was defeated in a GS match without calling a medical timeout or blaming some kind of injury?

 

[Federberg]

Ouch...

 

[Front242]

When was the last time Nadal was defeated in a GS match without calling a medical timeout or blaming some kind of injury?

Maybe you slept through the whole of 2011 if you want recent examples.

 

[shawnbm]

And don't forget 2006-2009--that is quite a long slumber.

 

[StantheMan]

2014 AO Bad Back
2013 Wim Bad Knee
2012 Wim Bad Knee
2012 AO Bad Knee
2011 USO Bad Foot
2011 Wim Bad Foot
2011 AO Hamstring
2010 AO Bad Knee
2009 USO Abdominal
2009 FO Knee
2008 USO Exhaustion
2008 AO Exhaustion + Tsonga was not playing at his "real level"
2007 USO Knee
2007 Wim Knee
2007 AO Leg
2006 USO Left Foot
2006 Wimb Foot
2005 USO Abdomen

The list goes on and on. Rafa is definitely GOAT. Still undefeated in GS when at 100% physical condition.

 

[StantheMan]

When was the last time Nadal was defeated in a GS match without calling a medical timeout or blaming some kind of injury?

Maybe you slept through the whole of 2011 if you want recent examples.

AO 2011 Loss to Ferrer Hamstring
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/australianopen/8283536/Australian-Open-2011-Rafael-Nadal-unwilling-to-discuss-extent-of-injury-out-of-respect-for-friend-David-Ferrer.html

Wimbledon 2011 Suffered Left foot Injury in 4th rd win over Del Potro

USO 2011 Lots of injuries incurred in win over Nalbandian blister on right foot, cramping on right leg
battling lots of injuries
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/835274-us-open-tennis-2011-results-rafael-nadal-vs-david-nalbandian-highlights


CONCLUSION: All 3 defeats in 2011 suffered by Nadal in GS are attributed to injuries.

 

[Front242]

Except he beat Del Potro in the 4th round of Wimbledon 2011, made the final and lost to Djokovic and lost to him again at the US Open 2011 in the final.

 

[StantheMan]

100% Healthy Nadal, Greatest of All Time. Would be sitting on at least 40 Consecutive GS single titles. 10 Consecutive Calendar Slams. Too bad for all those injuries.

 

[StantheMan]

Except he beat Del Potro in the 4th round of Wimbledon 2011, made the final and lost to Djokovic and lost to him again at the US Open 2011 in the final.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/jun/29/wimbledon-2011-rafa-nadal-andy-murray
Please read Nadal " My foot is not fine. It has been put to sleep."
Except the foot injury to Del Potro which actually needed an MRI cost him at least 3% of his movement in the final. You know at this level , a player has to be at 100% to win. Djokovic took advantage of an injured Nadal to win Wimby 2011.

 

[Front242]

Must admit that foot issue in Wimbledon 2011 didn't seem like anything as his movement was never affected against Del Potro and I think that was just him being a complete drama queen. Novak beat a 100% healthy Nadal at Wimbledon 2011 sorry.

 

[StantheMan]

Must admit that foot issue in Wimbledon 2011 didn't seem like anything as his movement was never affected against Del Potro and I think that was just him being a complete drama queen. Novak beat a 100% healthy Nadal at Wimbledon 2011 sorry.

Sorry but that is just your opinion.
I am quoting Nadal here.
Nadal has stated that his "Foot is not fine and has been put to sleep". How can a player be at 100% if his foot is not fine and his foot has been put to sleep?

 

[Front242]

Fair enough. Put him to sleep so and put him out of his misery.

 

[Kieran]

Must admit that foot issue in Wimbledon 2011 didn't seem like anything as his movement was never affected against Del Potro and I think that was just him being a complete drama queen. Novak beat a 100% healthy Nadal at Wimbledon 2011 sorry.

Sorry but that is just your opinion.
I am quoting Nadal here.
Nadal has stated that his "Foot is not fine and has been put to sleep". How can a player be at 100% if his foot is not fine and his foot has been put to sleep?

His other foot was awake, though...

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

his foot was put to sleep..i heard it snoring, what an unbelievable din.

 

[Front242]

Must admit that foot issue in Wimbledon 2011 didn't seem like anything as his movement was never affected against Del Potro and I think that was just him being a complete drama queen. Novak beat a 100% healthy Nadal at Wimbledon 2011 sorry.

Sorry but that is just your opinion.
I am quoting Nadal here.
Nadal has stated that his "Foot is not fine and has been put to sleep". How can a player be at 100% if his foot is not fine and his foot has been put to sleep?

Look, I'm no Nadal fan but here's what I think is the main problem. Other players and their teams aren't so vocal about injuries and ailments (a better word for some of the list of Nadal's issues over the years imo) and I think it's worked against them in a big way as regards how fans of other players perceive them. For example, this "foot is not fine and has been put to sleep". I'm pretty much 100% sure there are TONS of players out there competing year round numbed up on painkillers, it's just that they prefer to keep it to themselves. Tommy Haas and Hewitt come to mind. I guarantee you after all the surgeries they've been through, they both experience a good deal of pain in matches but they play through it and we never hear press statements from them.

So all in all, I think the Nadal team are to blame for casting a negative cloud over themselves when minor ailments should have been kept secret, as frankly all players use painkillers and anti-imflammatories at times to numb pain, swelling, muscle ache etc. So in that respect that was not an injury at Wimbledon 2011. You can go to the gym and lift personal bests if you so choose with painkillers even with a sore arm. That's the whole idea, you don't feel the pain so there's basically no injury to speak of. You think you feel it when the dentist drills the $h1t out of your teeth? Of course not.

 

[Moxie]

You're not asking a question, because you're obviously not interested in any answer that isn't yours. What is the thesis that you're trying to present, then, so we may debate something. If you created a whole thread to cast aspersions, thats trolling.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Ouch...

I hope that's a metaphor for how painfully bad this thread is.

 

[Federberg]

Ouch...

I hope that's a metaphor for how painfully bad this thread is.

Haha! To an extent yes. There's no question Rafa was injured against Stan, so it's unfortunate that this issue has been raised at this time. Is there a case to be discussed historically (i.e., without any aspersions against Rafa in his last match?) possibly. But the timing of this sucks...

 

[StantheMan]

You're not asking a question, because you're obviously not interested in any answer that isn't yours. What is the thesis that you're trying to present, then, so we may debate something. If you created a whole thread to cast aspersions, thats trolling.

The thesis I'm trying to present is that Nadal only loses in a GS when
A. He is injured.
B. He is carrying some form of injury
C. He is less than 100%

This is what Nadal's camp and fans would lead us to believe.

These would lead us to conclude that Nadal at 100% is unbeatable and therefore still undefeated in GSs when 100% fit.

 

[Kieran]

You're not asking a question, because you're obviously not interested in any answer that isn't yours. What is the thesis that you're trying to present, then, so we may debate something. If you created a whole thread to cast aspersions, thats trolling.

The thesis I'm trying to present is that Nadal only loses in a GS when
A. He is injured.
B. He is carrying some form of injury
C. He is less than 100%

This is what Nadal's camp and fans would lead us to believe.

These would lead us to conclude that Nadal at 100% is unbeatable and therefore still undefeated in GSs when 100% fit.

You're a liar.

But apart from that, were you previously on tennis.com?

Don't let's play 20 questions, right?