Hard court king Djokovic or federer?

[monfed]

Actually, going forward, Novak is more likely to succeed at USO than at AO as Orange is the new Black.

sad but true

 

[isabelle]

Nole beat the old Swiss in USO's final twice in a row so Nole's better for me

 

[atttomole]

Nole beat the old Swiss in USO's final twice in a row so Nole's better for me

He didn’t beat Roger at the USO final twice in a row. Maybe you are confusing it with Wimbledon. And you mentioned that he beat the old Swiss. It should not be surprising that Djokovic beats an old Swiss.

 

[Front242]

Nole beat the old Swiss in USO's final twice in a row so Nole's better for me

They were semis and 2 of Federer's worst losses having had match points both times.

 

[DarthFed]

Fed is clearly HC king. It will be tough for Djoker to make up the 3 major gap on HC

 

[monfed]

I think Fed needs to win another USO to put this beyond reach. 6 + 6 will be too hard to top specially with such a good spread.

And if Fed wins another USO, he'll be the only player in history who has won atleast 6 slams in three different majors which is insane when you think about it.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

I think Fed needs to win another USO to put this beyond reach. 6 + 6 will be too hard to top specially with such a good spread.

And if Fed wins another USO, he'll be the only player in history who has won atleast 6 slams in three different majors which is insane when you think about it.

Why are you predicting that Federer will win USO this year?
Just a hunch or something else?

 

[monfed]

Why are you predicting that Federer will win USO this year?
Just a hunch or something else?

I can't tell you why I predict Federer to win USO this year because it's bad omen. Hope you don't mind. I will say that I did predict at the start of this year or towards the end of last year that Fed will lose Wimbledon but he will win USO.

Logically speaking it's shaping up perfectly for Fed to break his USO curse. He's going to have another USO 08 run.

He has lost Wimbledon so the motivation will be high to win the last slam of the year and atleast symbolically finish as the best player of the year even if Nadull ends up YE#1 mainly because of his clay points. Nadull has never defended a non-clay title, let alone a non-clay slam and while I don't underestimate his luck, I don't think he'll defend it.

Fakervic just won Wimbledon and he's getting back to to his best but I don't think he's quite there yet leaving a small window of opportunity for Fed to take him out from all the experience he's gained from 2017-18.

I also think Fed's going to step up his level starting from Cincy, get back some much needed confidence which he's been sorely lacking since IW 18 and although he did get some back in Stuttgart, he lost most of it again at Halle. So Cincy, he gets back to form and he will use that momentum to power his USO run.

Lastly, I think Fed may get a nice enough draw this time where fakervic could be drawn in Nadull's half as Americans also want Fed to win as he hasn't for 10 years now.

 

[DarthFed]

I think Fed needs to win another USO to put this beyond reach. 6 + 6 will be too hard to top specially with such a good spread.

And if Fed wins another USO, he'll be the only player in history who has won atleast 6 slams in three different majors which is insane when you think about it.

I'd love that mark. He's the only one who has won 3 of them 5 different times, pretty sure no one else has won 3 different majors 3 times or more.

 

[monfed]

I'd love that mark. He's the only one who has won 3 of them 5 different times, pretty sure no one else has won 3 different majors 3 times or more.

Fakervic needs one more USO to do that. He will have to wait his turn in 2019 though.

 

[Moxie]

I'd love that mark. He's the only one who has won 3 of them 5 different times, pretty sure no one else has won 3 different majors 3 times or more.

But when Rafa wins the AO again, he'll be the only one besides Laver with the double career Slam. And I'm pretty sure we're talking Open Era here, so he'd be the only one. And he's awfully close to doing it....

 

[GameSetAndMath]

But when Rafa wins the AO again, he'll be the only one besides Laver with the double career Slam. And I'm pretty sure we're talking Open Era here, so he'd be the only one. And he's awfully close to doing it....

In view of the fact that orange is the new black, Ralph does not have much chance at AO. You should expect him to exit much earlier next year there.

 

[Moxie]

In view of the fact that orange is the new black, Ralph does not have much chance at AO. You should expect him to exit much earlier next year there.

You said "Orange is the New Black" on another thread, and I'm not sure I get your analogy. Where're you goin' with that?

 

[GameSetAndMath]

You said "Orange is the New Black" on another thread, and I'm not sure I get your analogy. Where're you goin' with that?

Ao is fast hard court slam and Uso is medium pace hard court slam nowadays. It used to be the other way around a few years ago.

 

[Moxie]

Ao is fast hard court slam and Uso is medium pace hard court slam nowadays. It used to be the other way around a few years ago.

Ha! Somehow I thought you meant that Connecticut debutante Roger Federer was finally going to get caught with his fingers in the cookie jar and get done for it. OK, but didn't Rafa win the USO when it was the faster? Even twice?

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Ha! Somehow I thought you meant that Connecticut debutante Roger Federer was finally going to get caught with his fingers in the cookie jar and get done for it. OK, but didn't Rafa win the USO when it was the faster? Even twice?

May be the 2010 one. I think by 2013 USO has considerably slowed down.

p.s. Was it the 2010 or 2013, when Ralph had a phenomenal serve?

 

[DarthFed]

But when Rafa wins the AO again, he'll be the only one besides Laver with the double career Slam. And I'm pretty sure we're talking Open Era here, so he'd be the only one. And he's awfully close to doing it....

I don't know about you but I much rather have 6 at three than 2 at all four. Also I'd say Djoker is going to be a serious threat at RG again so he will be in the running for a second career slam as well and at his best he's simply a better player than Nadal ever was.

 

[DarthFed]

May be the 2010 one. I think by 2013 USO has considerably slowed down.

p.s. Was it the 2010 or 2013, when Ralph had a phenomenal serve?

2010

 

[Moxie]

I don't know about you but I much rather have 6 at three than 2 at all four. Also I'd say Djoker is going to be a serious threat at RG again so he will be in the running for a second career slam as well and at his best he's simply a better player than Nadal ever was.

Some people might call that unbalanced, but that wouldn't be anyone who doesn't count clay, I guess. (Note the double-negative with 'wouldn't'.) As to the rest, it's your opinion, and it suits your agenda. The notion of "at his best" is a whole thing, but Nadal, "at his best" has not just often been better than Djokovic, but he's been that longer. And "at his best," he's been better than Roger, too. And each, at his best, has been better, at times than the others. Taking the longer view, Nadal is still better than Djokovic.

 

[Moxie]

May be the 2010 one. I think by 2013 USO has considerably slowed down.

p.s. Was it the 2010 or 2013, when Ralph had a phenomenal serve?

I'd be interest to see if you can back that up. I don't remember it being talked about that early.