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GameSetAndMath said:
Kohly always does this to you. Just when you think he shows promise, he promptly loses.

Yup. Look no further than RG against Murray.
 

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Welcome to the big leagues, Alexander.
 

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no surprise he lost heavily to ferrer. he will be around 160 world rank on Monday.
 

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yes daveeeeeed is good at "working the calendar" post Wimbledon and also the south American clay/hc swing in feb where he can hoover up easier rank points / titles without running into the top players (apart from rafa playing south America in last 2yrs).
 

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JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
yes daveeeeeed is good at "working the calendar" post Wimbledon and also the south American clay/hc swing in feb where he can hoover up easier rank points / titles without running into the top players (apart from rafa playing south America in last 2yrs).

It is called smart scheduling:cool:
 

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Actually Ferrer neither "works the calendar" nor does "smart scheduling". He just plays
throughtout the year and almost all weeks (of course I am exaggerating little bit here).

Playing in the week before slams when you are a top 10 player is not smart scheduling.
Playing in six atp 250 events (when only two of them are likely to be counted in the
rankings) is not smart scheduling either.

Playing in Hamburg and SA clay tournaments are smart scheduling, but more of a
byproduct of his general theory of keep on playing whenever you get a chance than
intentional.
 

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Yeah, Daveed is like Kafelnikov. I dunno if it's for the money or the points, but the guy would play anywhere, regardless of whether it helps his slam chances or not...
 

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It's actually called working with Dr. Luis Garcia Del Moral and not having a whole lot of del morals yourself. Seeing a 32 year old rallying like crazy and rarely ever out of breath against a 17 year old is just hilariously obvious.
 

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Ferrer is clearly playing for just money and ranking points to get better seedings at slams. Due to the mental amount of tournaments he plays each year he's actually 9th on the all time tennis earnings list.
 

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Ferrer loves the grind. He loves longer points, longer matches and playing too many tournaments. I guess that's just how he's wired.

In this instance, though, winning Hamburg is a good haul of ranking points - moreso than a M1000 SF or a slam QF. Also, it is a fairly reputable title for any player outside the big four. The only bigger titles than 500 level are the Masters events and slams which have almost all been hoovered up the elite guys during Ferrer's time in the top ten.
 

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Ferrer is not playing as much as many other players. He is just more visible, because he is playing more than the other top 10 players.
There are players who are entering in more than him, in the top 30 some having even up to 5 more events than David: Dolgopolov, Youzhny, Feli Lopez, Granollers, Tursunov, Gasquet.
 

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TennisFanatic7 said:
Ferrer loves the grind. He loves longer points, longer matches and playing too many tournaments. I guess that's just how he's wired.

Its funny watching how this guy wins points. He is just the consumate grinder. Even his serve is basically there to set up a long grinding point (just where he doesn't have to run quite as much). He never gives you many UFE, he gets every return back into play in an annoying position, he defends really well, he always hits with as much pace as his small frame can put on the ball and he eats up as much of the court as he can in so far as taking it early.

He also rarely goes for a winner, even when hes zoning.

Incredibly, his body doesn't break down like every other grinder after the age of 25.
 

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He worked with Lance Armstrong's doctor so there's no real surprise there imo.
 

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Haelfix said:
TennisFanatic7 said:
Ferrer loves the grind. He loves longer points, longer matches and playing too many tournaments. I guess that's just how he's wired.

Its funny watching how this guy wins points. He is just the consumate grinder. Even his serve is basically there to set up a long grinding point (just where he doesn't have to run quite as much). He never gives you many UFE, he gets every return back into play in an annoying position, he defends really well, he always hits with as much pace as his small frame can put on the ball and he eats up as much of the court as he can in so far as taking it early.

He also rarely goes for a winner, even when hes zoning.

Incredibly, his body doesn't break down like every other grinder after the age of 25.

Then perhaps those other guys should start employing coaches to lock them in cupboards as it has clearly worked for Daffeeeed :cool:
 

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herios said:
JesuslookslikeBorg. said:
yes daveeeeeed is good at "working the calendar" post Wimbledon and also the south American clay/hc swing in feb where he can hoover up easier rank points / titles without running into the top players (apart from rafa playing south America in last 2yrs).

It is called smart scheduling:cool:

thank you oh so very much for pointing out the very very obvious, that is lovely.
 

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herios said:
Ferrer is not playing as much as many other players. He is just more visible, because he is playing more than the other top 10 players.
There are players who are entering in more than him, in the top 30 some having even up to 5 more events than David: Dolgopolov, Youzhny, Feli Lopez, Granollers, Tursunov, Gasquet.

That is exactly the point. If a player outside top 10 schedules plays every tournament
available, that is understandable. They are playing to increase their ranking points and
get better seedings etc (just generally attempting to go up the food chain).

But, when you are a top 10 player and schedule yourself for every tournament, that
says that you don't believe you belong there. If you do that for just sometime after
reaching top 10, it can be attributed to old habits and say he will learn. But, this guy
has been in top 10 for so many years, but never behaves like one. He plays regularly
in the week before AO and Wimby (and somewhat rarely before RG and USO).