"Five Minutes Before the F-ing Match!"

[Front242]

Utter drivel on page 1 and less and less about Andy as the thread wore on. Glad I haven't missed much.

Anyway, do you know the reason behind the rants? Has some mainstream news media
done some investigative journalism? One tabloid that I read gave the following long list of
plausible reasons for the rant.

1. Kim said she is breaking up.
2. Kim said she is pregnant.
3. Judy came late to the match as he is "second son"
4. Match was scheduled early and he did not know about it.
5. Amelie had different game plan 5 minutes before the match.

Apart from Andy's own rants, Grigor's observation that he felt something was wrong
with Andy right during warm up is adding some more credibility to the theory that there
is some juicy story here.

I'm guessing the most likely is 5: Amelie had different game plan 5 minutes before the match. But it's anyone's guess. As with the mystery surrounding Serena's retirement from the doubles match, we'll probably never know the truth.

 

[Kieran]

I don't buy the Amelie having a new game plan one at all. Not for a minute. If that happened, Murray isn't 3 years old. He shrugs her off and plays. I can't see it happening in the real world of tennis, and if it did, why wouldn't Murray just revert to the original plan during the match?

I think that a lot of the times for big matches, they have a plan - but they also have to improvise and react to situations as they arise on court...

 

[Iona16]

[split] "Five Minutes Before the F-ing Match!"

It turns out Andy shouted 'forty-five minutes before the match' - NOT 'f****** five minutes before the match. It reminds me of all those times commentators apologise for him shouting 'f***' and what he's actually shouted is 'focus'. Perhaps they should clean their ears out. Not that I'm saying he doesn't swear. He obviously does. However, before they call him on it they should find out what he's actually said before they splash it across the newspapers.

 

[Kieran]

RE: 2014 Wimbledon Quarterfinals: Murray vs. Dimitrov

It turns out Andy shouted 'forty-five minutes before the match' - NOT 'f****** five minutes before the match. It reminds me of all those times commentators apologise for him shouting 'f***' and what he's actually shouted is 'focus'. Perhaps they should clean their ears out. Not that I'm saying he doesn't swear. He obviously does. However, before they call him on it they should find out what he's actually said before they splash it across the newspapers.

Hmmm, we need a new thread then... :snigger

 

[tented]

I don't buy the Amelie having a new game plan one at all. Not for a minute. If that happened, Murray isn't 3 years old. He shrugs her off and plays. I can't see it happening in the real world of tennis, and if it did, why wouldn't Murray just revert to the original plan during the match?

I think that a lot of the times for big matches, they have a plan - but they also have to improvise and react to situations as they arise on court...

Exactly. Of the theories on this list, No. 4 & 5 are unrealistic. One professional tennis player would know not to tell another one to go with a whole new game plan five minutes before the match began.

He's also been around long enough to know that other than the first scheduled match, start times for every subsequent one are anyone's guess. Even if you're scheduled to play the second match, that could be anything from several minutes later (a player is injured in warm-up, a la Tommy Haas) to several hours later.

 

[Front242]

Regardless of game plan anyway I'm sure it didn't include spray your forehand and serve like dung so no other plan would have helped avoid those issues anyway.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

It turns out Andy shouted 'forty-five minutes before the match' - NOT 'f****** five minutes before the match. It reminds me of all those times commentators apologise for him shouting 'f***' and what he's actually shouted is 'focus'.

Oh, I see; the journalists used wrong number of stars. :lolz:

 

[TennisFanatic7]

Only the Kim theories of those 5 sound particularly plausible to me, but I don't buy either of them, still.

3. Andy joked about earlier in the week and it speaks volumes of the "journalists" that they'd take that and make it into something. These will be the same guys who umm and ahh about Andy not having much of a public personality, what do they expect if they print drivel like this after he actually braves it and has a laugh with an interviewer for once? God I hate our media.

4 and 5 are pretty laughable as has been covered by other people.

1 I don't buy just because it would be totally out of the blue, not that we can say for sure. Number 2 is possible but again, I don't believe Kim would come out with something like that 5 minutes before a huge match given the very understated, drama-free manner the pair of them seem to conduct their relationship.

 

[Iona16]

It turns out Andy shouted 'forty-five minutes before the match' - NOT 'f****** five minutes before the match. It reminds me of all those times commentators apologise for him shouting 'f***' and what he's actually shouted is 'focus'.

Oh, I see; the journalists used wrong number of stars. :lolz:

Eh no, the journalists printed exactly what they thought he said. Stars are only required on this site.

It really doesn't matter what he said. It's all in the past now.

 

[Moxie]

Amazing that we got 6 pages out of a misinterpretation.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I don't buy the Amelie having a new game plan one at all. Not for a minute. If that happened, Murray isn't 3 years old. He shrugs her off and plays. I can't see it happening in the real world of tennis, and if it did, why wouldn't Murray just revert to the original plan during the match?

I think that a lot of the times for big matches, they have a plan - but they also have to improvise and react to situations as they arise on court...

Exactly. Of the theories on this list, No. 4 & 5 are unrealistic. One professional tennis player would know not to tell another one to go with a whole new game plan five minutes before the match began.

He's also been around long enough to know that other than the first scheduled match, start times for every subsequent one are anyone's guess. Even if you're scheduled to play the second match, that could be anything from several minutes later (a player is injured in warm-up, a la Tommy Haas) to several hours later.

I agree with your remarks on the second paragraph. Since his match is the second one,
he would know that it will start as soon as the first match is over and he has no control over
when it will end.

But, there is an interesting angle to the theory number 4. Normally, on centre court
the matches start at 1:00 p.m. However, on that day the Wimbledon officials decided to
start the matches on centre court one hour earlier due to the backlog of the matches.
Of course, it was announced the day before and you and me did not miss this important
announcement. However, there is some chance that Andy (and everybody in his team)
failed to notice this (that would be highly unprofessional of his team and just of Andy);
after all stranger things have happened. If that be the case, he might have arrived one
hour later than normal and might have got into trouble, especially since Simona Halep
beat Sabine Liscki in 57 minutes that day (with a score of 6-3, 6-0) in the first match.

 

[Kieran]

^^While that's not impossible, wouldn't it be likely that even one of Andy's entourage, his mother or brother or anybody, would have watched Today at Wimbledon, and seen the new start time?

I think a likely explanation is that it was just Andy blabbing something to make an excuse on court, to justify himself and his lousy effort. He seemed mentally not to be active, at all, except for this moment, which has inspired a lot of speculation. I doubt he'll ever come out and say what it was, but whatever it was, it would need to seismic to explain his utter capitulation...

 

[Iona16]

I don't buy the Amelie having a new game plan one at all. Not for a minute. If that happened, Murray isn't 3 years old. He shrugs her off and plays. I can't see it happening in the real world of tennis, and if it did, why wouldn't Murray just revert to the original plan during the match?

I think that a lot of the times for big matches, they have a plan - but they also have to improvise and react to situations as they arise on court...

Exactly. Of the theories on this list, No. 4 & 5 are unrealistic. One professional tennis player would know not to tell another one to go with a whole new game plan five minutes before the match began.

He's also been around long enough to know that other than the first scheduled match, start times for every subsequent one are anyone's guess. Even if you're scheduled to play the second match, that could be anything from several minutes later (a player is injured in warm-up, a la Tommy Haas) to several hours later.

I agree with your remarks on the second paragraph. Since his match is the second one,
he would know that it will start as soon as the first match is over and he has no control over
when it will end.

But, there is an interesting angle to the theory number 4. Normally, on centre court
the matches start at 1:00 p.m. However, on that day the Wimbledon officials decided to
start the matches on centre court one hour earlier due to the backlog of the matches.
Of course, it was announced the day before and you and me did not miss this important
announcement. However, there is some chance that Andy (and everybody in his team)
failed to notice this (that would be highly unprofessional of his team and just of Andy);
after all stranger things have happened. If that be the case, he might have arrived one
hour later than normal and might have got into trouble, especially since Simona Halep
beat Sabine Liscki in 57 minutes that day (with a score of 6-3, 6-0) in the first match.

Seriously? You're suggesting Andy and his team might not have realised play started at noon that day. ODG. Absolutely ludicrous and completely false. Someone from Andy's team and a Wimbledon official have both stated that the start time was not an issue.

 

[TennisFanatic7]

Andy has been playing tournaments for over a decade which will have had varying and volatile timetables, I'm sure he will know by now how these things can go down. This won't be the first tournament he's played with a backlog of matches due to weather causing the organisers to veer from their traditional timetabling procedures. It's probably not even the first Wimbledon he's played where that's the case.

All of these ideas are nothing more than speculation and people seem to be clutching at straws to find an explanation for something that simply doesn't matter. If there's big, bad business going on behind the scenes with Murray, we will find out in time. I didn't see the match and have avoided any highlights but judging by the score and what's been said, I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of specific, unusual problem with him on the day of the quarter-final, but if there was, I don't think the explanation is coming from whatever shouting the article in the original post was referring to.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

According to an interview by Amelie Mauresmo in L'Equipe, Andy lost the match to Grigor at Wimby due to "other reasons". Does anyone with life subscription to british tabloids know whether they have finished their investigations into the mysterious "other reasons"?

 

[Front242]

According to an interview by Amelie
Mauresmo in L'Equipe, Andy lost the match to Grigor at Wimby due to "other reasons".
Does anyone with life subscription to british tabloids know whether they have finished
their investigations into the mysterious "other reasons"?

twitlonger.com? Must be where Kieran got that article about Fed getting mono from EPO.

 

[Kieran]

According to an interview by Amelie
Mauresmo in L'Equipe, Andy lost the match to Grigor at Wimby due to "other reasons".
Does anyone with life subscription to british tabloids know whether they have finished
their investigations into the mysterious "other reasons"?

twitlonger.com? Must be where Kieran got that article about Fed getting mono from EPO.

Actually, it was Jim Courier's coach who said it. Hardly a "PR man", but still, an insider of sorts. I disbelieve it, by the way.

I think the "other reasons" were that he was looking forward to his favourite soap and it started "Five ****ing minutes before the match..."

 

[TennisFanatic7]

Andy was playing well before that match then he got crushed by Dimitrov in a fairly unprecedented fashion. I missed the match and didn't fancy watching highlights so I can't be too sure but my feeling was that there was a problem of some sort affecting him.

Not making excuses by the way, it doesn't matter now anyway.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Andy was playing well before that match then he got crushed by Dimitrov in a fairly unprecedented fashion. I missed the match and didn't fancy watching highlights so I can't be too sure but my feeling was that there was a problem of some sort affecting him.

You are as illuminating as Amelie.

 

[Iona16]

According to an interview by Amelie Mauresmo in L'Equipe, Andy lost the match to Grigor at Wimby due to "other reasons". Does anyone with life subscription to british tabloids know whether they have finished their investigations into the mysterious "other reasons"?

Why are people still talking about this? It's done. He lost. Can we move on?