Federer's Schedule 2018

[Federberg]

I'd say they are the only two who transcend the sport on a global level, add Serena if you factor in the women's game. Others transcend it on a more regional level. As McEnroe said though, Federer is the golden goose of men's tennis.

I hate to say it but I would include Sharapova as well in that group

 

[Front242]

I hate to say it but I would include Sharapova as well in that group

Before her drug shaming I'd agree but she can barely win a match now when it matters and has proven to the world her true level is nothing like her drugged level. She's been alienated by millions now and she knows it.

 

[Federberg]

Before her drug shaming I'd agree but she can barely win a match now when it matters and has proven to the world her true level is nothing like her drugged level. She's been alienated by millions now and she knows it.

definitely her level has dropped, whether that's due to playing drugs free or the disruption of no exposure to high level tennis for a long time is tough for me to discern. Although that's probably the case as many times players who are injured for a long time come back and regain their position. But is she really less of a draw now? Why were so many tournaments so eager to give her wildcards then? To me that's more of an indictment of the lack of genuine star power in the WTA

 

[Moxie]

^how has a Federer thread been turned into a Fedal war? You Rafa-tards have no respect I do agree that Rafa is by far the next most popular player. The problem is that as usual Moxie tries to link Rafa to Roger (really deep insecurity there ) I'm not sure that it's close with regards to crowd interest in Rafa vs Roger, I've never really studied things like for example does a British tennis crowd root more for Rafa than Murray?, what is clear is that if it's Roger they do. There is no question that Rafa has greater crowd attention than any other player apart from Roger, I'm not sure DF was disagreeing with that

You can easily see that I was reacting to Darth saying "it isn't even close." I asked him how he knew. And you don't know, either. Talk about insecurity. Anyway, all early references to Rafa came from Darth and Front on this thread. It's about Fed's schedule, so clay and the YE#1 are going to come up, so some discussion of Nadal is also inevitable, though the editorializing and baiting came from Fedtards. You can see for yourself. But anyhow, now that we've solved the great mysteries of whether or not Roger would play Rotterdam/Dubai, which had GSM in such a tizzy, what else is there to fight, I mean talk, about?

 

[Front242]

definitely her level has dropped, whether that's due to playing drugs free or the disruption of no exposure to high level tennis for a long time is tough for me to discern. Although that's probably the case as many times players who are injured for a long time come back and regain their position. But is she really less of a draw now? Why were so many tournaments so eager to give her wildcards then? To me that's more of an indictment of the lack of genuine star power in the WTA

Well, she's lost millions of fans but still has millions left! Justin Bieber has millions of fans but it doesn't mean he's good! I'm of the opinion this is her true drug free level. No cardio in 3rd sets. Remember she was known for her "stamina" winning 3 set matches. Now, without her drugs, she looks tired and useless at late stages of matches when she starts making tons of errors like a complete baboon.

 

[DarthFed]

You can easily see that I was reacting to Darth saying "it isn't even close." I asked him how he knew. And you don't know, either. Talk about insecurity. Anyway, all early references to Rafa came from Darth and Front on this thread. It's about Fed's schedule, so clay and the YE#1 are going to come up, so some discussion of Nadal is also inevitable, though the editorializing and baiting came from Fedtards. You can see for yourself. But anyhow, now that we've solved the great mysteries of whether or not Roger would play Rotterdam/Dubai, which had GSM in such a tizzy, what else is there to fight, I mean talk, about?

Nah, this recent tangent came from your fellow Nadal-tard saying Fed whines to get night matches and center courts. Naturally the reason he gets prime time on the main courts is that he is the biggest draw. He doesn't usually ask for night matches, they just give them to him. In fact I'd argue having only night matches for 4-5 rounds is a disadvantage if you have a day-time match late in the tourney. At the AO I was glad Fed played the day match vs. Fucs instead of someone like Berd.

 

[Federberg]

^all I can say Moxie, is if you're going to stick your nose in, in defence of your man, read thru the whole thing properly

 

[Moxie]

Nah, this recent tangent came from your fellow Nadal-tard saying Fed whines to get night matches and center courts. Naturally the reason he gets prime time on the main courts is that he is the biggest draw. He doesn't usually ask for night matches, they just give them to him. In fact I'd argue having only night matches for 4-5 rounds is a disadvantage if you have a day-time match late in the tourney. At the AO I was glad Fed played the day match vs. Fucs instead of someone like Berd.

That's not what Federberg said, in his fairly grumpy and insulting post above. He said that Nadaltards hijacked the thread. The first several mentions of Nadal all come from Fedfans, so I'm just setting that point straight. And I don't know why you even bother responding to some of that partisan crap, but to each his own amusement. Still, Rafa and Roger usually trade-off the marquee slots, so I'm not sure what that proves. They've hardly ever been on the same half of the draw their whole careers, so there isn't even a direct comparison there.

 

[DarthFed]

None of the baiting came from Fed fans, all from the Nadalgoat clown. And then you're again arguing a losing point. Fans of everyone not named Fed often complain about the type of crowd support he gets. Rafa gets the 2nd most but it's not particularly close.

 

[Federberg]

That's not what Federberg said, in his fairly grumpy and insulting post above. He said that Nadaltards hijacked the thread. The first several mentions of Nadal all come from Fedfans, so I'm just setting that point straight. And I don't know why you even bother responding to some of that partisan crap, but to each his own amusement. Still, Rafa and Roger usually trade-off the marquee slots, so I'm not sure what that proves. They've hardly ever been on the same half of the draw their whole careers, so there isn't even a direct comparison there.

wow... grumpy and insulting?? My smiley emoji's didn't clue you in to the fact I was being humorous?

 

[El Dude]

I'd say they are the only two who transcend the sport on a global level, add Serena if you factor in the women's game. Others transcend it on a more regional level. As McEnroe said though, Federer is the golden goose of men's tennis.

This pretty much says all that needs to be said in a short and sweet manner, as britbox is often able to do. Anything else is just quibbling and unnecessary Fedal squabbling.

 

[Horsa]

^how has a Federer thread been turned into a Fedal war? You Rafa-tards have no respect I do agree that Rafa is by far the next most popular player. The problem is that as usual Moxie tries to link Rafa to Roger (really deep insecurity there ) I'm not sure that it's close with regards to crowd interest in Rafa vs Roger, I've never really studied things like for example does a British tennis crowd root more for Rafa than Murray?, what is clear is that if it's Roger they do. There is no question that Rafa has greater crowd attention than any other player apart from Roger, I'm not sure DF was disagreeing with that

The newbie started it. We can't really blame him though. He's trying his best to join in & fit in. I guess we could try to help him a bit more. I feel sorry for him in a way. I'd love to help him but don't want to be nick-named Auntie Ann for trying to help people. I've played that role in real-life. I don't want to make it a permanent role. I must say his language skills appear to be improving a lot. When he 1st started some of his comments were illegible. I don't want to be seen as the language police when I'm not perfect myself or unfair if English isn't the Mother tongue. Saying that, with me still living at home & our house having only 1 T.V. which Dad has the remote control to so we watch what Dad wants I don't always get to see that many matches so sometimes he has more information about who won how many matches etc. than me. That doesn't mean I'm not interested. I am. I just don't always get a chance to watch through no fault of my own. Sometimes I'm just more familiar with how to play personally & the games of Agassi, McEnroe, Cash, Henman etc. than Federer & Nadal.

 

[Moxie]

wow... grumpy and insulting?? My smiley emoji's didn't clue you in to the fact I was being humorous?

Yeah, but you never call us Nadaltards. I thought it was sort of uncharacteristically sour.

 

[Moxie]

None of the baiting came from Fed fans, all from the Nadalgoat clown. And then you're again arguing a losing point. Fans of everyone not named Fed often complain about the type of crowd support he gets. Rafa gets the 2nd most but it's not particularly close.

You can believe that if you like, or you can look back over the thread. I still don't know by what measure you say that crowd support is not "even close" between Roger and Rafa. The only quantifiable way is social media, but you've disallowed that. When they both play a tournament, I think they both draw the crowds pretty heavily over other players. When only one plays, for sure each is the biggest draw. When I go to the USO on a day Roger plays, I watch him. So what does that prove? Anyway, a lot of folks here are going with they're both a big draw, and by a lot, leaving off Serena.

 

[Andy22]

They're both in the Antipodes so have a similar climate meaning if it's a bad idea for New Zealand it's also a bad idea for Australia.

No rod laver arena is much better, and be a awesome place to, host wtf.

 

[Andy22]

Nadal is clearly just as popular as Federer, then you think of Federer you think of Nadal. Then you of tennis you think of the 2008 Wimbledon final which Nadal won, look at Facebook, twitter its the some.,unless you go up to every person in the world and ask them who's the biggest draw you can not say Federer more Popular, Nadal is a little more popular then Federer because of that Wimbledon final win.

 

[DarthFed]

^ You two can keep living in your dream world. Number of likes on social media only tells you so much in the sports world. And when YOU think of tennis YOU think of Wimbledon 2008. If you think that makes him more popular that's laughable. That C-/D+ performance from Fed was hardly memorable and it made life easy for Rafa in that match. When casual/non-fans think of tennis it's Fed they will think of, and for us hardcore fans it can be any number of things.

If we ever see another Fedal match at Wimbledon I bet the crowd will be incredibly one-sided...

 

[Horsa]

No rod laver arena is much better, and be a awesome place to, host wtf.

O.K. Point taken.

 

[Moxie]

^ You two can keep living in your dream world. Number of likes on social media only tells you so much in the sports world. And when YOU think of tennis YOU think of Wimbledon 2008. If you think that makes him more popular that's laughable. That C-/D+ performance from Fed was hardly memorable and it made life easy for Rafa in that match. When casual/non-fans think of tennis it's Fed they will think of, and for us hardcore fans it can be any number of things.

If we ever see another Fedal match at Wimbledon I bet the crowd will be incredibly one-sided...

Oh, well, THAT might prove it then. Sure, Roger is very popular at Wimbledon. That's one tournament. I'd even say he'd get more of the crowd if they played RG again. I've only argued with you that it's closer than you try to say. You're being willful about social media. It's what we have to inform something about relative popularity. There is no applause-o-meter at the events, and no one polls ticket buyers who most enticed them to buy tickets. You also downgrade Roger's performance in the 2008 Wimbledon final every time you write about it. (C-/D+?? Now you have to be kidding.) You are also living in a dream world if you saw that match completely differently than most of the tennis viewing world, and those that write about it professionally. You've said you have never re-watched that match, so obviously it just grows hoarier and more one-sided in your memory.

 

[DarthFed]

Oh, well, THAT might prove it then. Sure, Roger is very popular at Wimbledon. That's one tournament. I'd even say he'd get more of the crowd if they played RG again. I've only argued with you that it's closer than you try to say. You're being willful about social media. It's what we have to inform something about relative popularity. There is no applause-o-meter at the events, and no one polls ticket buyers who most enticed them to buy tickets. You also downgrade Roger's performance in the 2008 Wimbledon final every time you write about it. (C-/D+?? Now you have to be kidding.) You are also living in a dream world if you saw that match completely differently than most of the tennis viewing world, and those that write about it professionally. You've said you have never re-watched that match, so obviously it just grows hoarier and more one-sided in your memory.

You think the French crowd would root for Roger over Rafa? Wow what a concession...the only one I thought would be close in support would be the OZ but even last year was pretty one-sided in support. It's alright, y'all know I can't prove a negative, I can't prove Cilic doesn't get more support than Roger either.

As for Wimbledon 08 I'd say I'm much closer to the truth than your insistence that Roger played some kind of tremendous match. The defining moments from Roger are points littered with errors. And it's telling that he usually still easily exceeds that level in his mid 30's. I've never said it wasn't the greatest match I've seen, but Roger's game was a disappointment that day and pretty much the whole year