Fed Fans – Roger Federer Talk

[Nadalfan2013]

They had a rematch 8 years later with Roger at 36 years old a couple weeks after injuring his back (have to take a page out of your book and use an excuse). In 2009 Roger was serving for a 2 set lead up 30-15 and tried an idiotic drop shot instead of putting away an easy forehand. That breathed life into Del Po. It was the definition of a horrible loss.

7 times. Get over it.

 

[DarthFed]

7 times. Get over it.

18-7. The norm is for Roger to beat 2nd and 3rd rate players. I will get over the loss when you get over "poor Rafa" and his poor injuries.

 

[Nadalfan2013]

18-7. The norm is for Roger to beat 2nd and 3rd rate players. I will get over the loss when you get over "poor Rafa" and his poor injuries.

There's a difference between battling all the way into the 5th set like Del Potro vs Federer in 2009 and injuries forcing you to quit matches or withdrawing from tournaments like with Rafa. Stop embarrassing yourself, and most of all stop embarrassing Federer & his fans.

 

[DarthFed]

There's a difference between battling all the way into the 5th set like Del Potro vs Federer in 2009 and injuries forcing you to quit matches or withdrawing from tournaments like with Rafa. Stop embarrassing yourself, and most of all stop embarrassing Federer & his fans.

Most of Rafa's withdrawals have come with him being taken to the woodshed. Some players have a bigger pain threshold than others. Or are you dumb enough to believe Roger hasn't dealt with injuries during any of his 1500+ matches? Besides, the most embarrassing post of the week is from a certain troll who said Nadal would have 7 AO's if he wasn't so darn unlucky.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

After getting to #20 at AO and after becoming the oldest #1 at Rotterdam, it was probably difficult to find motivation for Roger. If that was the case, then a string of losses during the rest of the year, will surely bring the hunger back.

The real question is how much of this slump due to mental stuff and how much due to physical stuff. If at least 50% of it is attributable to mental/psychological stuff, I am sure Roger will come back. On the other hand, if it is mostly due to physical stuff, then it will be difficult to come back.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

Another THREAD derailed by the geriatric troll :cuckoo:

 

[Nadalfan2013]

Another derailed by the geriatric troll :cuckoo:

I agree. DarthFed should stop trolling and pretend that federer is perfect.

 

[The_Grand_Slam]

I agree. DarthFed should stop trolling and pretend that federer is perfect.

Don't quote me

 

[Moxie]

They had a rematch 8 years later with Roger at 36 years old a couple weeks after injuring his back (have to take a page out of your book and use an excuse). In 2009 Roger was serving for a 2 set lead up 30-15 and tried an idiotic drop shot instead of putting away an easy forehand. That breathed life into Del Po. It was the definition of a horrible loss.

Don't say you're "taking a page" out of anyone's book to use an excuse. If you're using an excuse, you should own it. I do agree with Nadalfan2013 that you should stop saying that 2009 USO final was such a horrible loss. Del Potro is not chopped liver, esp. not in 2009. You could give him some credit for that win, and you never do.

 

[Moxie]

Well the Fed clones would assume he was on a roll and it would continue so I just included the entire season to placate them! :whistle: :cuckoo:

Bullshit...you weren't paying attention. No one gives credit for work not done, least of you to Roger. Or Rafa, for sure.

 

[lob]

Don't say you're "taking a page" out of anyone's book to use an excuse. If you're using an excuse, you should own it. I do agree with Nadalfan2013 that you should stop saying that 2009 USO final was such a horrible loss. Del Potro is not chopped liver, esp. not in 2009. You could give him some credit for that win, and you never do.

DP started zoning after the second set. He won that match fair and square. He was the better player that day. The problem was that Roger was a whisker away from still pulling it off. Had Roger held that game, the match was in the bag. There was no way DP was coming back from 0-2 sets down. So there are two things going on. Roger not being alert and DP exploding after that.

 

[Fiero425]

DP started zoning after the second set. He won that match fair and square. He was the better player that day. The problem was that Roger was a whisker away from still pulling it off. Had Roger held that game, the match was in the bag. There was no way DP was coming back from 0-2 sets down. So there are two things going on. Roger not being alert and DP exploding after that.

Same with Fed's Wimbledon win if Roddick had finished that 2nd set TB being up 4 set pts! It was a choke & Fed benefitted from it! :whistle:

 

[lob]

Same with Fed's Wimbledon win if Roddick had finished that 2nd set TB being up 4 set pts! It was a choke & Fed benefitted from it! :whistle:

I completely agree. Roddick donated that match and Federer's #15. So karma got him in the USO.

 

[Moxie]

DP started zoning after the second set. He won that match fair and square. He was the better player that day. The problem was that Roger was a whisker away from still pulling it off. Had Roger held that game, the match was in the bag. There was no way DP was coming back from 0-2 sets down. So there are two things going on. Roger not being alert and DP exploding after that.

This is a fair post, but I do not think you can ever say that anyone wasn't coming back from two sets down. That is why we believe in the 5-set format, after all.

 

[lob]

This is a fair post, but I do not think you can ever say that anyone wasn't coming back from two sets down. That is why we believe in the 5-set format, after all.

It has been done only once in a GS Final by Lendl in 1984 RG. At least not since then.

 

[Moxie]

It has been done only once in a GS Final by Lendl in 1984 RG. At least not since then.

Good trivia. I'm not saying it's easy or likely, but that's why they play 5.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

This is a fair post, but I do not think you can ever say that anyone wasn't coming back from two sets down. That is why we believe in the 5-set format, after all.

Come on, JMDP was a greenhorn in 2009. Fed was a five time defender of USO. No way that JMDP wins it coming back from 0-2. Certainly, not that year.

 

[Moxie]

Come on, JMDP was a greenhorn in 2009. Fed was a five time defender of USO. No way that JMDP wins it coming back from 0-2. Certainly, not that year.

I think it's hard to call him a "greenhorn" that year. He came within a break of ruining Roger's run to win his only RG. He won the Roger's Cup. And we know he had spectacular chops. You can't say he wouldn't have come back from 0-2 down in that final, and neither can I. But he didn't have to. He fought Roger hard to 5 at RG, and then fought him hard to 5 at the USO. I think we'd both say that both players were better on HC. Not a shock that del Potro beat Roger, even though it was an upset. He was a trending player in 2009.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

I think it's hard to call him a "greenhorn" that year. He came within a break of ruining Roger's run to win his only RG. He won the Roger's Cup. And we know he had spectacular chops. You can't say he wouldn't have come back from 0-2 down in that final, and neither can I. But he didn't have to. He fought Roger hard to 5 at RG, and then fought him hard to 5 at the USO. I think we'd both say that both players were better on HC. Not a shock that del Potro beat Roger, even though it was an upset. He was a trending player in 2009.

Come on, going into the match Roger was not just a favorite, but a heavy favorite being a five time defender.

 

[Fiero425]

Come on, going into the match Roger was not just a favorite, but a heavy favorite being a five time defender.

But you can't win forever; Federer, Borg, even Nadal at the FO! Sooner or later a player has a bad day and they drop a final! :whistle: