Donald Trump - Opinions?

[calitennis127]

As if solving the problems of the Middle East were simple, and I don't buy that Obama is "fully culpable." He didn't get us into Afghanistan, and he did get us out of Iraq. And he's negotiated a deal with Iran to keep them from getting a nuke.

I said that Obama is fully culpable for the situations in Libya and Syria, and I stand by that. His administration has actively worked for regime change in both countries. There is no need to antagonize Assad, which is something that Obama agrees with the Republicans on doing. Jeb Bush/Fiorina/Kasich/Rubio and Obama each want Assad to go. American NGOs and special forces have been working tirelessly in recent years to undermine Assad at Obama's behest. This silliness has a great deal to do with ISIS's advance as well as the refugee crisis engulfing Europe.

Obama has done more, in the long run, to aid and abet the international jihadist movement than any president to date. That problem is here to stay and get worse thanks to many of his miscalculations.

The jury is still out on the Iranian nuclear deal.....Obama avoided war but I am hardly convinced that Iran won't get a bomb. The way they see it is that the Sunnis have a bomb in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, their ultimate enemy, is the major bankroller of Pakistan. There is no question Iran wants a nuke and that they have little respect for Western diplomats. Come back in 10 years and see if everything looks so peachy.

 

[Moxie]

Obama has done more, in the long run, to aid and abet the international jihadist movement than any president to date. That problem is here to stay and get worse thanks to many of his miscalculations.

This I disagree with. The saber-rattling rhetoric of the Bush administration, in the wake of the Sept. 11th attacks, and throughout his administration were deeply damaging. And its close relationship with the Saudis was a slap in the face to everyone who knew where the hostility generated from.

 

[Federberg]

This I disagree with. The saber-rattling rhetoric of the Bush administration, in the wake of the Sept. 11th attacks, and throughout his administration were deeply damaging. And its close relationship with the Saudis was a slap in the face to everyone who knew where the hostility generated from.

His post was so fantastical, Moxie that I raised my eyebrows, shook my head and didn't bother responding. When someone makes such statements what's the point of engaging? This isn't about truth or logic

 

[britbox]

How Trump happened.
Interesting view of voter group preferences:

http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-trump-happened/?mod=e2tw

 

[britbox]

 

[calitennis127]

His post was so fantastical, Moxie that I raised my eyebrows, shook my head and didn't bother responding. When someone makes such statements what's the point of engaging? This isn't about truth or logic

As if you have any truth or logic behind anything you say. Your whole worldview is wrong, ill-informed, and stupid. As a devotee of Michael Scheuer, I can only laugh at some dimwitted Euro-leftist like yourself whose understanding of foreign policy amounts to that of a rock.

What is funny about you is that your big issue is police racism and it is readily apparent in everything you write and say that a) you have no black friends or insight into actual black communities, and b) you are a total bigot.

 

[calitennis127]

This I disagree with. The saber-rattling rhetoric of the Bush administration, in the wake of the Sept. 11th attacks, and throughout his administration were deeply damaging. And its close relationship with the Saudis was a slap in the face to everyone who knew where the hostility generated from.

What saber-rattling rhetoric? Bush went out of his way numerous times - as CNN and other news outlets have pointed out - to insist on the completely ignorant and counter-factual narrative that Islam is and has been a religion of peace. Islam is not nor has it ever been a peaceful religion in its doctrine. This is only something that is insisted on by historically ignorant people such as Bush, Obama, and Federberg.

Is this saber-rattling rhetoric, Moxie?

 

[Moxie]

Is this saber-rattling rhetoric, Moxie?

No, it's good PR. But this is, as he sets the stage for invasion in Iraq. Note that he says the 9/11 terrorists were trained in Afghanistan, but fails to mention that the were Saudis. And I'm still not sure how he made us go into Iraq, with this weak argument:

 

[Federberg]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ald-Trump-failed-seduce-stalked-20-years.html

 

[calitennis127]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ald-Trump-failed-seduce-stalked-20-years.html

There is plenty of this on both sides of the aisle. Bill Clinton was accused of rape when he was at Oxford. Elliot Spitzer was a member of a club that provided escort services with prostitutes. John Edwards very notoriously cheated on his wife. Anthony Weiner put photos of his instrument on Twitter.

And then there was this Democratic mayor in San Diego who was apparently in to older women:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/us/criminal-charges-for-bob-filner-former-san-diego-mayor.html

 

[calitennis127]

No, it's good PR. But this is, as he sets the stage for invasion in Iraq. Note that he says the 9/11 terrorists were trained in Afghanistan, but fails to mention that the were Saudis. And I'm still not sure how he made us go into Iraq, with this weak argument:

Moxie, this is simply neoconservative claptrap, and Bush is an illiterate dolt - you should be smart enough to not take the man seriously. The neoconservatives who run Fox News, the New York Post, the Weekly Standard, National Review, etc. come from a Trotskyite lineage. They believe in permanent revolution while also being ultra-Zionist. They brainwashed Bush and manipulated him. Their thinking has nothing to do with traditional conservative principles such as those of the founding fathers to mind your own damn business. John Quincy Adams once said that the U.S. should not go abroad looking for monsters to destroy. The neoconservative mantra is to create monsters out of everyone and compare every leader they do not like to Hitler.

In case you have not noticed, some of the most fierce neocon proponents of the Iraq war, such as Charles Krauthammer of Fox News, are also some of Trump's most visceral critics. Krauthammer makes constant boneheaded arguments against Obama's foreign policy, because he wants the U.S. to intervene against everyone, but with his Jewish lineage he has retained a contempt for gentiles so strong that he wants to make sure as many non-whites and non-Christians enter the country as possible. Krauthammer wanted the war in Iraq and condemns Obama for pulling the troops out, but then he also condemns Trump for his Muslim ban idea. So, what Krauthammer wants is to invade the world and invite the world. I would love to ask him why then he doesn't chastise the Israelis for how they profile and exclude Muslims. Apparently they can do anything but if a nation of Christian gentiles does the same thing, then they are bigots.

Go figure.

 

[Moxie]

Iowa Caucuses this evening. People are watching on the Democratic and Republican sides. Is Trump going to run away from the field, or is the show over? Is Rubio trending? Will Cruz get the establishment Republican support in a big way? Bernie or Hillary for the first big win?

 

[Moxie]

And Trump lost in Iowa. Hopefully, the beginning of a trend. I suspect those who poll for Trump don't vote. A lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing, like their candidate.

 

[calitennis127]

And Trump lost in Iowa. Hopefully, the beginning of a trend. I suspect those who poll for Trump don't vote. A lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing, like their candidate.

Trump is inarticulate and does not explain his positions well, but his positions are fundamentally right. Just last week there were 26 ISIS supporters arrested in Singapore and massive terrorist attacks in Cameroon by IS supporters. Two weeks ago Islamic terrorists struck in Jakarta, Istanbul, and Burkina Faso in a matter of 3 days. The main Muslim advocacy group in the United States, which both Bush and Obama have treated as respectable, has had 5 members arrested on terrorism charges. Trump is right about Islamic immigration and other issues. He just doesn't explain his positions well. Great instincts but he is low on knowledge in explaining his correct positions.

 

[Moxie]

Yes, Trump is inarticulate. And he chooses his friends for like qualities.

 

[calitennis127]

But his positions are right and there are many people who agree with him who are supremely intelligent and better informed than everyone else in America. So what is your point? Robert Spencer knows far more about Islam than you, Federberg, Bush, or Obama, and he has written a number of books and articles on the jihadist menace that no one can refute. He agrees with Trump.

 

[Moxie]

But his positions are right and there are many people who agree with him who are supremely intelligent and better informed than everyone else in America. So what is your point? Robert Spencer knows far more about Islam than you, Federberg, Bush, or Obama, and he has written a number of books and articles on the jihadist menace that no one can refute.

Trump has no elaborated "positions." He is all bombast and promises. And BS. You imprint a lot on him because you want him to be your guy. I disagree with a lot of what you say, but you are not uninformed. Donald Trump is. He's also an egotist, a loose-cannon, and someone given to deep grudges. If that sounds like Putin (or even Berlusconi,) it should. I believe you have deep concerns, as to ISIL, and otherwise the state of the world, as is normal. If you think Donald Trump can solve them, and Hillary Clinton can't, I have to say I don't think you've been paying attention. You may like the rhetoric, but I don't think you'd be happy with the mindless "lead with the chin," in the end.

 

[britbox]

Hillary Clinton wins the Iowa Democrat vote.

 

[Federberg]

So much for the Donald being invincible. The problem with being a braggart is that when you're embarrassed it's hard to recover. Perhaps we'll get a proper contest between Cruz and Rubio

 

[britbox]

Yep, the Don takes a hit.