I would not be surprised if he goes alone. However, if he does go alone, it will definitely stagnate his development. 2023 is the honeymoon phase of his career. 2024 will be a a different story especially he has reached a career high ranking of 4 in the world. He needs someone in his camp to guide him in the rigorous part of the tour.
Danish Angel - Holger Rune Talk
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nehmeth
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Just look at the two players in his age group: Alcaraz and Sinner. Both players have coaches that will allow their players to maximize their full potential.
Rune is definitely a talented player, I could even argue that he is "more talented" than Sinner (I am huge Sinner fan). The problem with Rune right now is that he does not have the discipline (yet) to harness/refine his talents.
Well from his mothers comments Lars may still be in the picture, not a shocker that there was a “clash of egos” between Lars & Patrick that could have affected Little Holger.
After Bombastic ‘Ego Clash’ Statement, Holger Rune’s Mother Affirms Serena Williams’ Ex-coach Patrick Mouratoglou’s Future with Her Son in a Brutal Revelation
The coaching strategy of Holger Rune is undergoing a shift, as his mother confirms Patrick Mouratoglou's firm departure over clashing egos.
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Rune should take Magnus Norman when he gets finished with Stan. He coached Stan during his peak and is now hanging with Stan once again probably for the good old times.
When the coach speaks your language it possibly helps player/coach to connect. Some winning combinations that come to mind: Nadal/Uncle Toni/ Moya, Alcaraz/Ferrero, Novak/Goran, Federer/Luthi.
Not sure of the language differences between Danish and Swedish, but I always thought they can understand each other well. Maybe @lomaha can shed some light on this if a Dane and a Swede can easily make a conversation on their respective languages?
When the coach speaks your language it possibly helps player/coach to connect. Some winning combinations that come to mind: Nadal/Uncle Toni/ Moya, Alcaraz/Ferrero, Novak/Goran, Federer/Luthi.
Not sure of the language differences between Danish and Swedish, but I always thought they can understand each other well. Maybe @lomaha can shed some light on this if a Dane and a Swede can easily make a conversation on their respective languages?
We understand swedish and norwegian very well. I think he might go back to Lars Christensen. But we will see.
Rune is schedule to play Beijing and Shanghai so I am curious to see if he will bring a coach in those two events. First things first, I am hoping his back will be fine before he starts playing any type of matches. He does not want to have any lingering back issues going into the "off-season."
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I read the other day, Rune's mother who is his manager, said she wanted Rune to go back to Lars Christensen, I believe Lars was at the USO helping out Clara Tauson, whose coach could not attend the USO due to personal reasons.
He was indeed. He has coached them both back in Denmark as juniors and he knows them both very well.
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I only see what I see on court, but I feel like Holger is in that liminal zone where he has to decide how great he wants to be, and it is ultimately up to him.
Someone needs to have a hard talk with him and say: "Kid, you've got the talent to be great. But you need to work hard and listen to your coaches, and learn to control your emotions. It is 100% on you."
Someone needs to have a hard talk with him and say: "Kid, you've got the talent to be great. But you need to work hard and listen to your coaches, and learn to control your emotions. It is 100% on you."
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Yes. I think he has a bit of a ceiling with regard to his ability to stay healthy. Going forward though, I’m looking to see whom he chooses for a coach. If he states he’s going to go it alone, that doesn’t bode well for his future success.
He has already named Lars as his coach going forward. I think he has a lot to deal with because he is getting older. And appareantly got his first girlfriend...
He’s playing Davis Cup this week, no ?
It seems odd to talk about a 20 year old at a crossroads but I agree with you guys that what Holger does now can impact whether he can jump up to the “greatness” level. As El Dude pointed out in other threads, the window of opportunity statistically speaking to quantum leap up occurs in nearly all cases between 19 & 22 years of age. "He's only 20", yes, but there are things that can be established in the next 12-18 months going forward as to where he will settle.
Again, we are spoiled by Alcaraz, but there are signs with Rune, Holger has a positive head2 head with top ten players, and he has wins against the top 3: Djokovic, Alcaraz & Medvedev, (contrast with 22 year old Sinner who plays well versus Alcaraz but otherwise is 0-11 versus Djokovic, Medvedev and Rune himself). Best results at Slams this year was one 4th round and 2 QTRS back to back. He's at 20 currently ranked. #4 so the big question is will he go upward from here or will he regress.
The back injury is worrisome, but this late fall HC season will be telling; if he's physically recovered and if the coaching situation impacted him headwise with Patrick and Lars butting egos earlier this year. Glad he's got that settled for now, but no doubt the big expectations are squarely on his shoulders. I do think he's incredibly talented but can he balance the physical, emotional and mental to be a great champion is the burning question. The tournament grind can get to even the most gifted players.
It seems odd to talk about a 20 year old at a crossroads but I agree with you guys that what Holger does now can impact whether he can jump up to the “greatness” level. As El Dude pointed out in other threads, the window of opportunity statistically speaking to quantum leap up occurs in nearly all cases between 19 & 22 years of age. "He's only 20", yes, but there are things that can be established in the next 12-18 months going forward as to where he will settle.
Again, we are spoiled by Alcaraz, but there are signs with Rune, Holger has a positive head2 head with top ten players, and he has wins against the top 3: Djokovic, Alcaraz & Medvedev, (contrast with 22 year old Sinner who plays well versus Alcaraz but otherwise is 0-11 versus Djokovic, Medvedev and Rune himself). Best results at Slams this year was one 4th round and 2 QTRS back to back. He's at 20 currently ranked. #4 so the big question is will he go upward from here or will he regress.
The back injury is worrisome, but this late fall HC season will be telling; if he's physically recovered and if the coaching situation impacted him headwise with Patrick and Lars butting egos earlier this year. Glad he's got that settled for now, but no doubt the big expectations are squarely on his shoulders. I do think he's incredibly talented but can he balance the physical, emotional and mental to be a great champion is the burning question. The tournament grind can get to even the most gifted players.
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I know it's hard to say "make or break" for Rune, at such a tender age, but he clearly needs some guidance. And frankly, I think he's well-shed of Morataglou, for the moment. He's a bit of a star-chaser, (and a leech, if you ask me,) and what Rune needs is a good father-figure/mentor. It's ok if it doesn't all keep going as fast as it has, but the important thing is that he improves, stays healthy, and has a nurturing team around him.
It is why I wanted to wait or be patient with Rune before I completely put all these high expectations on him.
The toughest part of being a professional tennis is the grind that goes into being a professional tennis player. For Rune right now, he is trying to navigate all these obstacles especially after having a HUGE title as a 19 years old.
My main worry about him is his back issues. If it doesn’t go away, that could be a major problem for the future.
The toughest part of being a professional tennis is the grind that goes into being a professional tennis player. For Rune right now, he is trying to navigate all these obstacles especially after having a HUGE title as a 19 years old.
My main worry about him is his back issues. If it doesn’t go away, that could be a major problem for the future.
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Yeah but he kinda took the predictable route, didn’t he? He’s like a punch drunk boxer reeling around the ring, at this stage…