Combination of things

[Carol]

Uncle Toni is a very smart guy. This collapse in form is still relatively recent. Let's see how the Nadal team adapts. Who knows they might build up his muscle bulk again to try and get his explosive speed back

What about his muscle bulk again? I don't know if you have seen him in person, but he looks the same like always, the only diference is that he had to lose a little weight to protect his knee but the frame of his body and muscles are genetic like his uncles and father besides the exercises that ALL of them have to do including your dear Federer though his body is slimmer

 

[Federberg]

Uncle Toni is a very smart guy. This collapse in form is still relatively recent. Let's see how the Nadal team adapts. Who knows they might build up his muscle bulk again to try and get his explosive speed back

What about his muscle bulk again? I don't know if you have seen him in person, but he looks the same like always, the only diference is that he had to lose a little weight to protect his knee but the frame of his body and muscles are genetic like his uncles and father besides the exercises that ALL of them have to do including your dear Federer though his body is slimmer

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know much about your dear Rafa. His forehand has lost its bite because he has lost some speed. The mechanics of his forehand are very complicated as if he doesn't set properly he is not able to generate his exceptional top spin. Either he needs that explosive speed back or he needs to change the mechanics of the stroke. Simple really :cover

 

[Carol]

Uncle Toni is a very smart guy. This collapse in form is still relatively recent. Let's see how the Nadal team adapts. Who knows they might build up his muscle bulk again to try and get his explosive speed back

What about his muscle bulk again? I don't know if you have seen him in person, but he looks the same like always, the only diference is that he had to lose a little weight to protect his knee but the frame of his body and muscles are genetic like his uncles and father besides the exercises that ALL of them have to do including your dear Federer though his body is slimmer

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know much about your dear Rafa. His forehand has lost its bite because he has lost some speed. The mechanics of his forehand are very complicated as if he doesn't set properly he is not able to generate his exceptional top spin. Either he
needs that explosive speed back or he needs to change the mechanics of the stroke. Simple really :cover

Well, I see that you don't know too much about the sport and the consequences when they lose the confidence due to diferent reasons and more due to injuries, ask Tsonga and others, sometimes takes time to recovery which is as important as the game (o more) if it doesn't work correctly the legs and the arms either, despite yourself he is going to find it soon

 

[Federberg]

^Carol, you're merely exposing your ignorance. Rafa's loss of confidence is precisely due to the technical difficulty he has. Anyway I find it extremely boring having these discussions with you. You seem to take the view that because someone isn't a fan of Rafa they can't objectively assess the problems he has :nono. First and foremost we're tennis fans, if you don't get that, that's your problem. Over and out..

 

[the AntiPusher]

Uncle Toni is a very smart guy. This collapse in form is still relatively recent. Let's see how the Nadal team adapts. Who knows they might build up his muscle bulk again to try and get his explosive speed back

What about his muscle bulk again? I don't know if you have seen him in person, but he looks the same like always, the only diference is that he had to lose a little weight to protect his knee but the frame of his body and muscles are genetic like his uncles and father besides the exercises that ALL of them have to do including your dear Federer though his body is slimmer

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know much about your dear Rafa. His forehand has lost its bite because he has lost some speed. The mechanics of his forehand are very complicated as if he doesn't set properly he is not able to generate his exceptional top spin. Either he needs that explosive speed back or he needs to change the mechanics of the stroke. Simple really :cover

Be Nice FB, I ( Broken also, heck, BS is tough on me , lol) am the only one allowed to be assine to other posters. Just kidding, but Miss Carol is a nice lady, never rude so she can accept if someone's opinion differs from her assessment because we all have "opinions" . That being said , I totally agree Rafa is "tardy" in his set up and not as explosive as before, hence forth the shanked fh and the ufes. Either get more explosive than he has been recently or make some adjustments.

 

[Carol]

^Carol, you're merely exposing your ignorance. Rafa's loss of confidence is precisely due to the technical difficulty he has. Anyway I find it extremely boring having these discussions with you. You seem to take the view that because someone isn't a fan of Rafa they can't objectively assess the problems he has :nono. First and foremost we're tennis fans, if you don't get that, that's your problem. Over and out..

Look who is talking about ignorance, don't make me laugh.
I see that you don't like to be defeated, but who cares, listen, think what ever is more convenient to you but you are going to change the game, the results and the futures for each player.
And I think the same, it's extremely boring having discussion with people like you which just want to see the fall of a great player and trying to go to the extreme, over and out too:huh:

 

[Federberg]

What about his muscle bulk again? I don't know if you have seen him in person, but he looks the same like always, the only diference is that he had to lose a little weight to protect his knee but the frame of his body and muscles are genetic like his uncles and father besides the exercises that ALL of them have to do including your dear Federer though his body is slimmer

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know much about your dear Rafa. His forehand has lost its bite because he has lost some speed. The mechanics of his forehand are very complicated as if he doesn't set properly he is not able to generate his exceptional top spin. Either he needs that explosive speed back or he needs to change the mechanics of the stroke. Simple really :cover

Be Nice FB, I ( Broken also, heck, BS is tough on me , lol) am the only one allowed to be assine to other posters. Just kidding, but Miss Carol is a nice lady, never rude so she can accept if someone's opinion differs from her assessment because we all have "opinions" . That being said , I totally agree Rafa is "tardy" in his set up and not as explosive as before, hence forth the shanked fh and the ufes. Either get more explosive than he has been recently or make some adjustments.

That's all I'm saying AP. It's clear for all who have played or watch tennis. It just gets a bit tiresome when fan-tards can't look at what posters say on their merits without saying oh this person hates so and so, therefore it must be a hostile remark :huh:

 

[Carol]

What about his muscle bulk again? I don't know if you have seen him in person, but he looks the same like always, the only diference is that he had to lose a little weight to protect his knee but the frame of his body and muscles are genetic like his uncles and father besides the exercises that ALL of them have to do including your dear Federer though his body is slimmer

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know much about your dear Rafa. His forehand has lost its bite because he has lost some speed. The mechanics of his forehand are very complicated as if he doesn't set properly he is not able to generate his exceptional top spin. Either he needs that explosive speed back or he needs to change the mechanics of the stroke. Simple really :cover

Be Nice FB, I ( Broken also, heck, BS is tough on me , lol) am the only one allowed to be assine to other
posters. Just kidding, but Miss Carol is a nice lady, never rude so she can accept if someone's opinion differs from her assessment because we all have "opinions" . That being said , I totally agree Rafa is "tardy" in his set up and not as explosive as before, hence forth the shanked fh and the ufes. Either get more explosive than he has been recently or make some adjustments.

Thanks for defense to me lot but the thing that most bother me is the insistence about his fall from his antis-tards
I know Rafa has to change something, even he changed the racquet but he had to came back to the old one. But I'm afraid that after his injuries and surgery he has lost not just his confidence but even his enthusiasm which is even worst. He hasn't forgot to play but it's clear that he is not focused like he used to be and of course very erratic in shots that never had failed before which means he is space out, that's all. The best thing he is healthy then I don't worry about anything else

 

[lacatch]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know much about your dear Rafa. His forehand has lost its bite because he has lost some speed. The mechanics of his forehand are very complicated as if he doesn't set properly he is not able to generate his exceptional top spin. Either he needs that explosive speed back or he needs to change the mechanics of the stroke. Simple really :cover

Be Nice FB, I ( Broken also, heck, BS is tough on me , lol) am the only one allowed to be assine to other
posters. Just kidding, but Miss Carol is a nice lady, never rude so she can accept if someone's opinion differs from her assessment because we all have "opinions" . That being said , I totally agree Rafa is "tardy" in his set up and not as explosive as before, hence forth the shanked fh and the ufes. Either get more explosive than he has been recently or make some adjustments.

Thanks for defense to me lot but the thing that most bother me is the insistence about his fall from his antis-tards
I know Rafa has to change something, even he changed the racquet but he had to came back to the old one. But I'm afraid that after his injuries and surgery he has lost not just his confidence but even his enthusiasm which is even worst. He hasn't forgot to play but it's clear that he is not focused like he used to be and of course very erratic in shots that never had failed before which means he is space out, that's all. The best thing he is healthy then I don't worry about anything else

Carol keeps referring to Rafa's "surgery"---he had his appendix out late last year--that is NOT major surgery that would affect one's tennis game. Murray, on the other hand, had BACK surgery, which directly affected his game. They are not at all analogous situations.

 

[Carol]

Be Nice FB, I ( Broken also, heck, BS is tough on me , lol) am the only one allowed to be assine to other
posters. Just kidding, but Miss Carol is a nice lady, never rude so she can accept if someone's opinion differs from her assessment because we all have "opinions" . That being said , I totally agree Rafa is "tardy" in his set up and not as explosive as before, hence forth the shanked fh and the ufes. Either get more explosive than he has been recently or make some adjustments.

Thanks for defense to me lot but the thing that most bother me is the insistence about his fall from his antis-tards
I know Rafa has to change something, even he changed the racquet but he had to came back to the old one. But I'm afraid that after his injuries and surgery he has lost not just his confidence but even his enthusiasm which is even worst. He hasn't forgot to play but it's clear that he is not focused like he used to be and of course very erratic in shots that never had failed before which means he is space out, that's all. The best thing he is healthy then I don't worry about anything else

Carol keeps referring to Rafa's "surgery"---he had his appendix out late last year--that is NOT major surgery that would affect one's tennis game. Murray, on the other hand, had BACK surgery, which directly affected his game. They are not at all analogous situations.

Another one.......
I said INJURIES and surgery

 

[Front242]

He hasn't been injured for quite some time Carol. This is something else.

 

[Front242]

Uncle Toni is a very smart guy. This collapse in form is still relatively recent. Let's see how the Nadal team adapts. Who knows they might build up his muscle bulk again to try and get his explosive speed back

What about his muscle bulk again? I don't know if you have seen him in person, but he looks the same like always, the only diference is that he had to lose a little weight to protect his knee but the frame of his body and muscles are genetic like his uncles and father besides the exercises that ALL of them have to do including your dear Federer though his body is slimmer

If you think he looks the same as always I'd say get your eyes tested RIGHT NOW 'cos he looks absolutely nothing like this now. No need to slag federberg for stating the obvious, Nadal is way smaller now. This has nothing to do with who you support, it's just called using your eyes, and clearly federberg's and mine thankfully work quite well.

 

[Carol]

Every player sleeveless looks with more muscles lol
Nadal and Novak, none difference

http://www.details.com/images/health-fitness/fitness-plans/201305/tennis_workout/djokovic_nadal_intro.jpg

But they look very diferent with sllevess, isn't? :snicker

http://cdn-jpg.si.com/sites/default/files/2012/01/djokovic-nadal-getty-300.jpg

 

[Front242]

Every player sleeveless looks with more muscles lol
Nadal and Novak, none difference

http://www.details.com/images/health-fitness/fitness-plans/201305/tennis_workout/djokovic_nadal_intro.jpg

Carol, it's not just his biceps. Look at his back and shoulders. They were enormous for a tennis player around 2005-2006.

 

[Front242]

Plus, that photo of Nadal beside Novak is not from when he was big. That's from 2011. Nadal hasn't been big for years now. The photos I posted above are from years ago when he was pretty damn big for a tennis player. The bottom one is from 2006. In fact I reckon most of those above there are from around that period. His shoulders are ridiculously big in the one in the green top too. Novak is ripped but not big and never has been.

 

[Fiero425]

Plus, that photo of Nadal beside Novak is not from when he was big. That's from 2011. Nadal hasn't been big for years now. The photos I posted above are from years ago when he was pretty damn big for a tennis player. The bottom one is from 2006. In fact I reckon most of those above there are from around that period. His shoulders are ridiculously big in the one in the green top too. Novak is ripped but not big and never has been.

Preach! They say "DENIAL" is more than a river in Egypt! lol! :lolz: :laydownlaughing :angel: :dodgy:

 

[Federberg]

Plus, that photo of Nadal beside Novak is not from when he was big. That's from 2011. Nadal hasn't been big for years now. The photos I posted above are from years ago when he was pretty damn big for a tennis player. The bottom one is from 2006. In fact I reckon most of those above there are from around that period. His shoulders are ridiculously big in the one in the green top too. Novak is ripped but not big and never has been.

Preach! They say "DENIAL" is more than a river in Egypt! lol! :lolz: :laydownlaughing :angel: :dodgy:

Don't think it's denial. It's an unwillingness to actually look. If you are identified as a non-fan, everything you say won't be processed. You could say his name is Rafael Nadal, and there would be a reason to disagree :cover

 

[Carol]

Plus, that photo of Nadal beside Novak is not from when he was big. That's from 2011. Nadal hasn't been big for years now. The photos I posted above are from years ago when he was pretty damn big for a tennis player. The bottom one is from 2006. In fact I reckon most of those above there are from around that period. His shoulders are ridiculously big in the one in the green top too. Novak is ripped but not big and never has been.

Well, it depends what you call big or depending the picture though it's true that both have diferent body structure


https://survivordean.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/novak-djokovic-fitness.jpg?w=700

 

[nehmeth]

Plus, that photo of Nadal beside Novak is not from when he was big. That's from 2011. Nadal hasn't been big for years now. The photos I posted above are from years ago when he was pretty damn big for a tennis player. The bottom one is from 2006. In fact I reckon most of those above there are from around that period. His shoulders are ridiculously big in the one in the green top too. Novak is ripped but not big and never has been.

Well, it depends what you call big or depending the picture though it's true that both have diferent body structure


https://survivordean.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/novak-djokovic-fitness.jpg?w=700

Those are tiny, little forearms!!

:lolz: :laydownlaughing

 

[Carol]

He hasn't been injured for quite some time Carol. This is something else.

Heloooo, and what I have said from the beginning? he is physically healthy but very weak mentally (confidence) which is more important than the game
He looks the same than 2013 and he played better than ever so the weight is nothing to do with his game, on the contrary it's more help for his knee