Can Roger win another Slam?

[Fiero425]

Nole has had the number of geriatric Fed. Much different scenario than Rafa.

Unfortunately it took years, but I've come to realize Rafa owns Roger; lock, stock, and barrel! Nadal runs a "bit of game" on Roger (esp. on clay), but he's been doing it for years and it should have been overlooked and conquered by now if there was a chance! Roger needed Soderling to take Nadal out of '09 FO or he still wouldn't have one; "thanks ROBIN! I hope Roger sent you something nice!" He probably didn't which is why Roger was taken out of the FO the following year! "No appreciation!" :nono :angel: :dodgy:

 

[Great Hands]

I think it always comes down to consistency with Roger. The number one reason in my mind he is not winning slams anymore is that he cannot maintain it as long as a Nole can. How much court time did Roger see at this Us Open until the final? I am positive it was less than everyone else. Even at his age, he had enough in the tank for the final, even a long one. And contrary to popular belief, I have always thought he is one of the toughest out there mentally. You cannot perform at the level that he has for over a decade with a big bulls eye on your back without being tough.

...but, he just cannot maintain the consistency. Does not matter against %99 of the field. Matters against Nole, who has the ability to get his consistency back even after losing it for half an hour or so. With Roger, once it is gone, so goes his game. He makes final pushes and such but too little too late for a slam.

Just to clarify my previous post, I was not saying that Roger is a mentally weak player. On the contrary, throughout his career he has been very mentally strong and clutch many, many times. I was just talking about recent, past his prime Roger, who, despite still playing at a very high level, has not managed to produce his best tennis on the big points in the biggest matches, but has instead got tight (completely understandably, given he doesn't know how many more chances he's going to get, and given he hasn't won a slam in over 3 years).

 

[Great Hands]

I think it always comes down to consistency with Roger. The number one reason in my mind he is not winning slams anymore is that he cannot maintain it as long as a Nole can. How much court time did Roger see at this Us Open until the final? I am positive it was less than everyone else. Even at his age, he had enough in the tank for the final, even a long one. And contrary to popular belief, I have always thought he is one of the toughest out there mentally. You cannot perform at the level that he has for over a decade with a big bulls eye on your back without being tough.

Just to clarify my previous post, I was not saying that Roger is a mentally weak player. On the contrary, throughout his career he has been very mentally strong and clutch many, many times. I was just talking about recent, past his prime Roger, and commenting that some of his recent performances in big matches have been at least partially affected by the mental side - i.e. him getting tight (completely understandably, given the stage of his career, but there it is).

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Nole has had the number of geriatric Fed. Much different scenario than Rafa.

I was hoping we will get to see Fed having the number of washed-up Rafa. But, Rafa seems to be too washed up that Fog has his number and Fog would not let Rafa meet Fed. What can I do? :cry

 

[Fiero425]

Nole has had the number of geriatric Fed. Much different scenario than Rafa.

I was hoping we will get to see Fed having the number of washed-up Rafa. But, Rafa seems to be too washed up that Fog has his number and Fog would not let Rafa meet Fed. What can I do? :cry

From here on out, I don't think we can trust either to go far enough to meet in quarters, semi's, & finals! Playing those 2 major finals by Roger will be the highlight of his twilight years while Rafa may have to start battling from the 1st Rd! That aura of invincibility has been ripped and many more think they have a chance to claim their scalps! :cover

 

[lacatch]

Nole has had the number of geriatric Fed. Much different scenario than Rafa.

I was hoping we will get to see Fed having the number of washed-up Rafa. But, Rafa seems to be too washed up that Fog has his number and Fog would not let Rafa meet Fed. What can I do? :cry

From here on out, I don't think we can trust either to go far enough to meet in quarters, semi's, & finals! Playing those 2 major finals by Roger will be the highlight of his twilight years while Rafa may have to start battling from the 1st Rd! That aura of invincibility has been ripped and many more think they have a chance to claim their scalps! :cover

I think that your comments about Roger's slam future are both pure conjecture and disrespectful of Roger's making 2 GS finals in '15.

 

[Fiero425]

I was hoping we will get to see Fed having the number of washed-up Rafa. But, Rafa seems to be too washed up that Fog has his number and Fog would not let Rafa meet Fed. What can I do? :cry

From here on out, I don't think we can trust either to go far enough to meet in quarters, semi's, & finals! Playing those 2 major finals by Roger will be the highlight of his twilight years while Rafa may have to start battling from the 1st Rd! That aura of invincibility has been ripped and many more think they have a chance to claim their scalps! :cover

I think that your comments about Roger's slam future are both pure conjecture and disrespectful of Roger's making 2 GS finals in '15.

Well there's been the combination of Roger playing well and then there's the gutless play of the rest of the tour allowing him this nice run at #2; Murray at the top of the list who s/b ashamed of himself! How does he let a senior citizen "school" him on grass as he did this year at Wimbledon? At one point, Roger was scratchin' the points contest around #6 with Murray doing more this spring! I was thinking the rankings were all wrong until Andy lost in straights to the old man! That's gutless play IMO! The thing is, even subpar play from Nole got the job done winning 3 of 4 majors and a finalist in the other! Winning his 1st 4 Masters makes the rest of the season a cakewalk for him! :angel:

 

[Kirijax]

From here on out, I don't think we can trust either to go far enough to meet in quarters, semi's, & finals! Playing those 2 major finals by Roger will be the highlight of his twilight years while Rafa may have to start battling from the 1st Rd! That aura of invincibility has been ripped and many more think they have a chance to claim their scalps! :cover

I think that your comments about Roger's slam future are both pure conjecture and disrespectful of Roger's making 2 GS finals in '15.

Well there's been the combination of Roger playing well and then there's the gutless play of the rest of the tour allowing him this nice run at #2; Murray at the top of the list who s/b ashamed of himself! How does he let a senior citizen school him on grass as he did this year at Wimbledon? At one point, Roger was scratchin' the points contest around #6 with Murray doing more this spring! I was thinking the rankings were all wrong until Andy lost in straights to the old man! That's gutless play IMO! The thing is, even subpar play from Nole got the job done winning 3 of 4 majors and a finalist in the other! Winning his 1st 4 Masters makes the rest of the season a cakewalk for him! :angel:

gutless...

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk[/video]

 

[Fiero425]

I think that your comments about Roger's slam future are both pure conjecture and disrespectful of Roger's making 2 GS finals in '15.

Well there's been the combination of Roger playing well and then there's the gutless play of the rest of the tour allowing him this nice run at #2; Murray at the top of the list who s/b ashamed of himself! How does he let a senior citizen school him on grass as he did this year at Wimbledon? At one point, Roger was scratchin' the points contest around #6 with Murray doing more this spring! I was thinking the rankings were all wrong until Andy lost in straights to the old man! That's gutless play IMO! The thing is, even subpar play from Nole got the job done winning 3 of 4 majors and a finalist in the other! Winning his 1st 4 Masters makes the rest of the season a cakewalk for him! :angel:

gutless...

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk[/video]

When players allow the Big 4 to escape with multiple points to win a match; that's what I call it if you do that again and again! They do; hence the moniker GUTLESS! Tsonga at the FO a few years ago had 4 MP's against Nole and somehow allowed him to come all the way back and win his match in 5 sets! What would you call it; esp. with sitter overheads or easy volleys to an open court? :cover :eyepop :angel: :dodgy:

 

[isabelle]

Nole has had the number of geriatric Fed. Much different scenario than Rafa.

I was hoping we will get to see Fed having the number of washed-up Rafa. But, Rafa seems to be too washed up that Fog has his number and Fog would not let Rafa meet Fed. What can I do? :cry

Murder the Fog !!