BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, CA, 2026 - ATP Masters 1000

[Fiero425]

I don't remember any "Golden Masters." Boxed set. Golden Career Slam, yes, meaning add the Olympic Gold, which Novak, bless his heart, FINALLY got.

The Career "Golden Masters" was coined after Novak won Cincy for the 1st time in 2018 completing the Box Set of Masters-1000 events! The true "Box Set" (winnng all Major sing., dubs, & mx.d) has only been accomplished by Martina Navr. in the Pro Era! The Golden CS (w/ OGM) done by Agassi, Nadal, & Nole! Then the Super Slam (w/ YEC) done by Agassi & Nole!

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I simply don't believe that's true First of all, only Roger, Novak and now Sinner have done it. It's not a "named goal" like, say, a calendar year Grand Slam, or even a Channel Slam. Which is not to say it's not an admirable achievement, but let's not pretend that the concept wasn't just invented. Even when Novak won all of the 9 MS 1000s, they invented the term "boxed set" for it. Or, they borrowed it from the real "boxed set," which is winning a title in each of singles, doubles and mixed at each of the 4 Majors. That one you can google. HC Boxed Set yields nothing. There's no Clay Boxed Set or Grass Boxed Set. It's a way for tennis commentators to speak of an accomplishment, but it's not what anyone would call a separate goal to play for.

I'm not trying to be pissy about it, but @rafanoy1992 posted to chastise us for not exclaiming over it. I'm just saying, no one knew we were supposed to.

Really? well it was all over the media? if Sinner won IW he would have been the youngest player at 24 to achieve all the major HC titles
BTW Rafanoy didnt chastise, he was just stating why other posters didnt acknowledge what Sinner achieved
No wonder we have lost good posters, Rafanoy happens to be one of them BTW
According to you what he achieved dosent mean much in your eyes and others here on this post, fair enough!
I will stick to the womens side of things on TF,

 

[Moxie]

Really? well it was all over the media? if Sinner won IW he would have been the youngest player at 24 to achieve all the major HC titles
BTW Rafanoy didnt chastise, he was just stating why other posters didnt acknowledge what Sinner achieved
No wonder we have lost good posters, Rafanoy happens to be one of them BTW
According to you what he achieved dosent mean much in your eyes and others here on this post, fair enough!
I will stick to the womens side of things on TF,

Oh, don't be like that. Fiero and Murat got what I was talking about. I absolutely said it was a great achievement. It's just that I never heard of this particular "named grouping" of events. Murat calls it "stat porn." Like Fiero's "Super Slam" above. Never heard of it. But sure, say what Sinner did. I mean, I had to guess when you said it. HE WON INDIAN WELLS, GIVING HIM, AT 24, AT LEAST ONE OF ALL OF THE BIGGEST HARD COURT TITLES: AO AND USOPEN, YEC AND HC MS 1000s. There. It's a mouthful, but it's quite an accomplishment. Plus, you know I just like to stir things up, and my complaint was about the name.

 

[Kieran]

I simply don't believe that's true First of all, only Roger, Novak and now Sinner have done it. It's not a "named goal" like, say, a calendar year Grand Slam, or even a Channel Slam. Which is not to say it's not an admirable achievement, but let's not pretend that the concept wasn't just invented.

Exactly. It’s interesting, that’s all. There’s been a trend to over-inflate the importance of MS titles when really they’re sort of filler. Creating trends that indicate nothing much, really. The only titles that really indicate greatness are the GS…

 

[Kieran]

Congrats to Sinner and everyone else on their big accomplishments . Having said that, I am getting tired of stat porn. Tennis is not as bad as basketball but it is catching up. Match wins, tournament wins, head to heads, slam counts and that is good enough for me. This started with (as far as I can remember) Roger's slam semi streak years back. As a Roger fan, I could not have cared less. He lost many of those slams. It is getting much worse now. We are on our way to " First guy ever to have eaten 6 pancakes at I Hop for breakfast, taken a 3 hour nap and won his first 5 service games while only drinking Red Bull during breaks "....Like, Jeez.

“Stat porn” is perfect!

“Youngest ever player to be young!”

“First player in history to win five points in a row with spitting.”

“Best self wedgie in tennis history!! (Rafa twenty years in a row!”

 

[Moxie]

Exactly. It’s interesting, that’s all. There’s been a trend to over-inflate the importance of MS titles when really they’re sort of filler. Creating trends that indicate nothing much, really. The only titles that really indicate greatness are the GS…

I think it goes a bit far to call the MS 1000s "filler." Though, they have diminished them with the larger field and the 2-week format. Used to be, there was nowhere to hide in a 1000...all top players, and no days off.

 

[Kieran]

I think it goes a bit far to call the MS 1000s "filler." Though, they have diminished them with the larger field and the 2-week format. Used to be, there was nowhere to hide in a 1000...all top players, and no days off.

True but they’re filler relative to true greatness…