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Federer could definitely win shanghai, basel but his not winning Wtf so keep fanboy also I think where is 6 players that can easy beat federer nadal, Djokovic thiem Medvedev S.tsitsipas, B.coric.
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Who are the 6 players that can easily beat Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Thiem, Medvedev, Tsitsipas and Coric?
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I was taking the piss out of his lack of punctuation but he deserved that.
yea that's it that's all of them I think Medvedev the only one which is not good, but his level is good enough to easy beat Federer lol I know you being funny.
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I already said in my earlier post that Medvedev could spoil the party for everyone meaning I fully accept he could beat all of them, including Federer.
Btw, not sure what you meant by Medvedev is the only one which is not good as he's clearly the best out of the top players above besides the big 3. That's why he's world number 4...
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medvedev record against Federer bro he's never beaten him but like I said he has the level to beat him which he most likely will if they play.
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I think Nadal will be absolutely fine too but I also think Medvedev should be ok. He has youth on his side. If he's healthy and doesn't overplay before the big events, he should be dangerous.
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Newsflash, he hasn't beaten Nadal either but that last match was damn close. He has the level to beat ANYONE.
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Completely agree with you! Medvedev and Federer would be my favorites going in to Shanghai. Nadal is most definitely going to skip Shanghai. I have a feeling Djoker would do that as well, despite there were pics of him practicing. However, he might go after the YE no.1 like Nadal did in 2017.
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Remember, Nadal going after YE no1 in 2017? I think Novak would try to do it and equal Sampras. Not the wisest move, but we don't know how he thinks
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I wouldn't have characterized it that way...I thought it mostly fell into place when he won the US Open. He didn't play anything out of the ordinary. Maybe more Murray in 2016, because he really had to fight for it.
Yeah, I do not think Djokovic will be that stupid to try to get the YE 1 while still having some shoulder injury.
Also, him winning Japan, Shanghai, Paris AND going unbeaten at World Tour Finals has a low probability especially at his age and current condition. Remember he is 32 years old and he is only 19-4 on hardcourts this year so he is not automatic anymore like he was in 2011-2016.
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I wasn't sweating it late last season and earlier this year! I figured Djokovic would pick up some points in the Spring, but he barely eek'd out 1 Masters win in Madrid with a R-up to Nadal in Rome! Now he's going to have to take a huge risk overplaying this FALL to defend so many points won at the end of last season! If he doesn't get the YE #1, he still has plenty of time to gain another 1 or 2 since the NG'rs will split the spoils and not challenge his consistency throughout an entire year of play! Novak's always in reach of finishing 1st except when he shut it down in 2017 before the USO! It's amazing he doesn't have more YE #1's; esp. after his campaign of 2016; completed his Nole-Slam at the FO and was runner up at the USO, took 4 Masters and still wound up #2 behind Murray! A true travesty (which is why I think more points should go to MAJORS)! Back in the day a #1 player only needed to win 1 major and not embarrass himself the rest of the season! Now you can work your arse into injury, take 6 major events and runner-up at several others and still wind up 2nd best! I'm not saying it because I'm a fan of Nole or a "hatah" of Murray; it just made little sense to me regardless of what was done to get there by the end of the YEC! I still "marvel" at the record books scanning down the list of records and Nole's right there; either on top or right behind Fedal even though he has years to match and surpass just anything they've done so far! :whistle:
; esp. after his campaign of 2016; completed his Nole-Slam at the FO and was runner up at the USO, took 4 Masters and still wound up #2 behind Murray! A true travesty (which why I think more points should go to MAJORS)! :whistle:
Sure Murray won the YE # 1 prize but he basically ran himself to the ground playing and winning EVERYTHING that fall/winter. It was an insane schedule and Murray in hindsight paid a very high price in that he’s never been the same player formwise.
Plus I actually don’t have problems with Murray being #1 that year because while Djokovic made 3 Major finals winning two, Murray won 1 and also made two finals. In addition he became the first ATP player to win a Major, Olympics singles Gold, a Masters title AND a ATP World Tour finals all in the same calendar year.
Starting with Queens in the grasscourt season, he literally only lost twice in regular tournament play for the rest of the year , spanning a period of 6 months.
The fact that he defeated Djokovic in the finals of the ATP world tour finals with a 25 tournament match winning streak to conclude the year certainly doesn’t make his YE #1 ranking a fluke, he earned it.
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Oh, I'm quite aware of how it happened; pretty much like our last Presidential race! Hillary won the popular vote, but Trump picked up the "The South" and took the race thru the Electoral College! It'll happen again more than likely with the NG'rs who have rivalries that have already begun! :whistle:
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It's a point system, so that's why Murray got that YE#1. Now you want to add more points to a Major? Funny coming from you, the one who spends a lot of time pretending to be the champion of the youngsters and the also-rans. Yes, back in the day (or some day,) winning one Major was enough to get you a ride at #1. It's not in this era, because there is a Big 3, and there was a Big 4. Because they have been sucking up all of the Majors and the majority of the MS1000s. That's why they sit thousands of points above everyone else. You want more points for a Major for one short-term gratification of Novak over Murray in one year. But you know what that would otherwise do? It would widen the chasm between the future HOFers, and everyone else. It would widen the glass ceiling in men's tennis, at least in the short term, and likely in the long term. The Majors have more points than any other event. Why isn't that enough? Just admit it: you don't really give a shit about the undercard. You're just pumping up Novak.
Oh, I'm quite aware of how it happened; pretty much like our last Presidential race! Hillary won the popular vote, but Trump picked up the "The South" and took the race thru the Electoral College! It'll happen again more than likely with the NG'rs who have rivalries that have already begun! :whistle:
I wonder if any of the present NG’s will win even 4-6 Majors in their careers, so yes, I could see YE #1 players who win just 1 Major or even just making 1 Major final could finish on top. An ATP version of the current WTA.
