AO Semi: Stan Wawrinka (4) vs Roger Federer (17)

[Federberg]

I really really would have been ok with a Stan win today. For the sake of tennis (and it's not even an anti-Rafa thing) I would love Dimi to win. We need fresh blood and Dimi was supposed to be that

 

[mrzz]

Yes, we need fresh blood in the final!

 

[Moxie]

I get the point about a Dimitrov win. But I can't support it, personally.

 

[mrzz]

oops, sorry

 

[britbox]

I'm looking beyond Dimi at guys like Sascha Zverev... I think Dimi will ultimately be part of a lost generation.

 

[mrzz]

Seriously, though, the guy is playing beautifull tennis. We should enjoy it, I guess.

 

[Moxie]

Dimitrov is probably rather a lost opportunity. Even if he steps up now, he's likely to get passed quickly.

 

[britbox]

Agreed Moxie

 

[Federberg]

I don't think you can dismiss Dimi so easily. Look at how long it took for Stan and Murray to get to the party. That could easily be him as well

 

[britbox]

Yeah, but Murray was the nearly man for a long time... Dimi's been a nowhere man for nearly as long.

 

[Moxie]

Murray was challenging longer, so you can only compare him with Stan, I think. Sure, he could win a few Majors when everyone else is gone, but not a great.

 

[britbox]

And I think Alpha Stan when he's at his best has a bigger game than Dimi

 

[Moxie]

Speaking of Stan...he is 31 or something. I think he's done.

 

[Federberg]

Y that's true. But the guy had 2 things going against him... the celebrity and the massive talent. Sometimes it really does take longer for guys like that to put it all together

 

[britbox]

Make that 3 things - the head.

 

[Federberg]

Lol! Seriously Moxie? The guy won the last slam and got to the semi of this one.... and you're saying he's done???

 

[mrzz]

Need to work. So long girls and boys, good to tak to you.

 

[brokenshoelace]

Murray gets an unwarranted reputation. He broke through in 2008. Just because he didn't win his first slam for a while due to the insane level of competition and the consistency of the other 3 shouldn't be a big knock against him.

 

[britbox]

Yeah, that's a bit far Moxie. You've got to hand it to Stan... none of us thought he'd win a major and he did, then he won another... and then people said he washed up... but he got another. He is a big game player. Not sure if he'll win another, but he'll be a dangerous guy for the next couple of years.

 

[Moxie]

Yes, I do. I think he plays spoiler from here on out. He's older, he's got head issues. He was lucky to do what he's done.