Agassi: Djokovic is 30 but he has body of a 25 years old man

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ANYONE reading this whole thread can easily see

Appeal to majority is a logical fallacy. If most people agree with you it doesn't mean you're right.

the dumbest person here is in fact you

You're the biggest idiot I've seen on any forum.

with your claim that a supposedly superior player is better than the holder of the most slams in the open era and currently dominating the ATP tour at almost 36 years of age and miles past his prime. Last time I checked 19 > 12

In previous posts on this thread I explained why it's possible that Djokovic is a superior player.
 
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Can anyone of you guys prove that you are not debating in circles?
haha, good one.....

ofc for Fedfans all's easier..... Fed's sitting on the 19...... ofc my observation is also that Fed is the better player but we can't be sure Djoko won't sort his head out and go on a 4 year GS winning spree.... something like that would make this thread and what Obsi's saying look much better.....
 

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haha, good one.....

ofc for Fedfans all's easier..... Fed's sitting on the 19...... ofc my observation is also that Fed is the better player but we can't be sure Djoko won't sort his head out and go on a 4 year GS winning spree.... something like that would make this thread and what Obsi's saying look much better.....

I agree. But he's arguing in the present, and the data doesn't support his claim..
 

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Can you prove what was the reason for those retirements?



Nonsense is your claim that Djokovic missing the rest of 2017 season proves that Agassi was wrong to say Novak has body of a 25 years old. It's a fact that 25 years old tennis players do get injuries that force them to take long breaks.

I ask you again how do you explain that Nadal at age 25 after Wimbledon missed the rest of 2012 season due to an injury?

Is Nadal, an "average" anything? Was Nadal an average 25 year old when he was 25? Erm... No.
 
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Btw genius, where does insult come into this? They are mostly definitely dumb questions

This is another confirmation you're dumb. If your statement is truthful it doesn't mean It's not insulting. It's a fact that some people are idiots so following your logic if these people are told they are "idiots" it's not an insult.

I'm not defeated in the slightest lol..

A person who first throws insulting comments during debate, is the one arguing from a position of weakness.

So, yes, you lost.
 

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Is Nadal, an "average" anything? Was Nadal an average 25 year old when he was 25? Erm... No.

How do you explain that Nadal at age 25 after Wimbledon missed the rest of 2012 season due to an injury?
 

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How do you explain that Nadal at age 25 after Wimbledon missed the rest of 2012 season due to an injury?

Quite easily... he was injured. But I didn't get a bunch of Nadal fans trying to tell me Toni Nadal insisted he had the body of a 20 year old at that moment in time.
 
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well, i still hope Djoko will be back, the tennis world needs the Serbian slayer....
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The fuck? Serbs beat the Habsburg and the Turkish empire too????? I know there are gaps in my knowledge, i think i need a good serbian history teacher :p
 

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Quite easily... he was injured. But I didn't get a bunch of Nadal fans trying to tell me Toni Nadal insisted he had the body of a 20 year old at that moment in time.

We aren't discussing body of a 20 years old but 25.
 

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Anybody in particular? Because a 25 year old Novak wasn't sitting out a season. Which 25 year old body are you putting up for the defence?

Did Nadal have body of a 25 years old in 2012?
 

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Did Nadal have body of a 25 years old in 2012?

I'm asking you brother... seeing as you started the thread and stated several facts. You said Novak had the body of a 25 year old.. just before he took the season out. Which 25 year old are you referring to? It's your thread after all... own it at the very least.

My opinion for what it is worth, is that Novak doesn't have the body or the mindset of a 25 year old. Can he come back? I wouldn't rule it out... I thought for a year, that at some stage he would get it back together and get a second wind and even dominate again, albeit for a small stretch.

Now, I'm thinking, No... Novak isn't exhibiting signs of a 25 year old hungry for success... he's exhibiting signs of a player on the way out... I don't mean that happily (sincerely) just the way it seems.

I don't buy all this 25 year old shit personally... just an eye test.
 

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I'm asking you brother... seeing as you started the thread and stated several facts. You said Novak had the body of a 25 year old.. just before he took the season out. Which 25 year old are you referring to? It's your thread after all... own it at the very least.

My opinion for what it is worth, is that Novak doesn't have the body or the mindset of a 25 year old. Can he come back? I wouldn't rule it out... I thought for a year, that at some stage he would get it back together and get a second wind and even dominate again, albeit for a small stretch.

Now, I'm thinking, No... Novak isn't exhibiting signs of a 25 year old hungry for success... he's exhibiting signs of a player on the way out... I don't mean that happily (sincerely) just the way it seems.

I don't buy all this 25 year old shit personally... just an eye test.

It's obvious what's meant by "body of a 25 years old". The crucial thing is this:

You claim that Djokovic missing the rest of 2017 season due to injury is proof that he doesn't have body of a 25 years old. Your proposition is nonsense.
 

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No, it's not obvious what you meant by the body of a 25 year old year old. Enlighten me please...

Enlighten me please how Djokovic missing the rest of 2017 season due to injury proves he doesn't have body of a 25 years old?
 

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OK Obsi, so for arguments sake, let's assume Agassi was comparing Djokovic ( a guy who can't physically play tennis right now ) with a 25 year old... so we are hunting for a 25 year old who can't play tennis... My niece nearly fits the bill... she's 24. She can't play tennis for shit.
 

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You are asking for proof once too often.... prove he does!

I've never said it's a fact that Djokovic has body of a 25 years old body. It's an opinion so I don't have to prove it.

But you did say it's a fact that Djokovic doesn't have body of a 25 years old in the post #148.

OK Obsi, so for arguments sake, let's assume Agassi was comparing Djokovic ( a guy who can't physically play tennis right now ) with a 25 year old... so we are hunting for a 25 year old who can't play tennis... My niece nearly fits the bill... she's 24. She can't play tennis for shit.

I think it's obvious what Agassi meant.