Agassi: Djokovic is 30 but he has body of a 25 years old man

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:facepalm: What a stupid logic. At age 29 Djokovic won 4 slams in row which Federer couldn't achieve when he was younger. Can we all agree this means Novak is a superior player to Roger :facepalm:

Nope! If he'd done it facing a prime Nadal at RG I might be impressed, but even then it wouldn't change my vew. The numbers are overwhelmingly against you mate. Keep on keeping on though!
 
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^He was questioning the logic of the previous post, not actually making that cause-consequence statement.
 
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^He was questioning the logic of the previous post, not actually making that cause-consequence statement.
The "previous post" was also fairly snide. For all of the insults and blustering, I don't see that Obsi can make a better case for Djokovic than Federer, or Nadal, for that matter. He's not there yet, on a lot of counts.
 

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^He was questioning the logic of the previous post, not actually making that cause-consequence statement.

Com'on man, don't play diplomat for this special philosopher,
 

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^Damn, let me look nice for a while -- I am discussing football in the other threads and I cannot do this without texting with my feet instead of my fingers.
 
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Lol! We all got that buddy

If so, why did you reply to me as if you didn't understand?

The "previous post" was also fairly snide. For all of the insults and blustering

Why don't I talk like that to, for example, El Dude? Perhaps because El Dude is respectful to other posters?

Check the Federberg's post to which I replied. He used this :facepalm:. You can't do that and then expect polite answer.
 

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If so, why did you reply to me as if you didn't understand?



Why don't I talk like that to, for example, El Dude? Perhaps because El Dude is respectful to other posters?

Check the Federberg's post to which I replied. He used this :facepalm:. You can't do that and then expect polite answer.

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You're making fool of yourself. By the way, you haven't answered my question:

mrzz told you that I was questioning your logic, not actually making that cause-consequence statement to which you replied that you got that. If so, why did you reply to me as if you didn't understand?
 

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You're making fool of yourself. By the way, you haven't answered my question:

mrzz told you that I was questioning your logic, not actually making that cause-consequence statement to which you replied that you got that. If so, why did you reply to me as if you didn't understand?

Sigh... because your question was fundamentally stupid :facepalm: as I was being sarcastic with my original statement. And my response to your very obviously not getting it (I was actually trying to give you a pass for missing the tongue in cheek nature of my point), was to attack the essence of your postings. Note how I didn't say you'd made a fool of yourself. It was so obvious I didn't think it merited commentary :facepalm: (I think I'll include this emoji in all my responses to you :laugh:). Anyway.. as I said.. keep on keeping on!
 

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We really need lure Fiero in to this... it is getting better and better!
 

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See what you've done. And don't use SOCCER as an excuse :D

Is it MY FAULT now? Anyway Brazilians use FOOOOOOOOOOOTBALL as an excuse for (among others):

1) Missing work;
2) Missing work on the following day;
3) Missing a date with your girlfriend;
4) Arriving late at home;
5) Not arriving at home;
6) Punching people you don´t know;
7) Punching your friends;
8) Killing people in general;

So it is a cultural thing. I am a minority here and my cultural heritage must be respected. (wow, that´s handy).
 

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I did not say Djokovic is better in "every" aspect so that's another proof you're a liar.

you said he is better in everything except being as aesthetically pleasing, trying to play word games? you are just a shameless clown who'll say anything.

your 'peak' bs, what is that? it's never peak when he gets beaten, yeah ok.....but doesn't explain why an inferior player would beat a superior player in his 'prime' so regularly.

for someone to say all these to prop up his player is clear evidence of a degenerate. yeah he got a lead since 2011 and that's what you write home about? do you realise since 2011 Federer is past his prime and Novak entered his? clearly not as you clearly watch tennis because of an idol, facts mean nothing to you.

regarding Federberg's comment none of us buys into your bs and sorted you out, there was never an 'argument'......that's just shameless and meaningless screaming hoping to get some recognition. Too bad you are exposed.

It is not reasonable to believe one's form goes crap given extra rest, unless you are a dimwit looking for excuse, after being butt hurt. FFS since when is it considered a bad thing that you get more rest than your opponent? people ALWAYS complain about having 'less' rest......get that through your head dimwit.

Finally i remember what Novak said, people have watched how he played, you have no where to run with this not 'at his best' bs. If anything Fed is 6 years older so Novak had all the advantage.
 

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If so, why did you reply to me as if you didn't understand?



Why don't I talk like that to, for example, El Dude? Perhaps because El Dude is respectful to other posters?

Check the Federberg's post to which I replied. He used this :facepalm:. You can't do that and then expect polite answer.
The post I called snide was #98, which was Federberg's. The one he said you missed the sarcasm in.
 
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Is it MY FAULT now? Anyway Brazilians use FOOOOOOOOOOOTBALL as an excuse for (among others):

1) Missing work;
2) Missing work on the following day;
3) Missing a date with your girlfriend;
4) Arriving late at home;
5) Not arriving at home;
6) Punching people you don´t know;
7) Punching your friends;
8) Killing people in general;

So it is a cultural thing. I am a minority here and my cultural heritage must be respected. (wow, that´s handy).

That list sounds a lot like our Yankee version of football :)
 

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Sigh... because your question was fundamentally stupid :facepalm: as I was being sarcastic with my original statement. And my response to your very obviously not getting it (I was actually trying to give you a pass for missing the tongue in cheek nature of my point), was to attack the essence of your postings. Note how I didn't say you'd made a fool of yourself. It was so obvious I didn't think it merited commentary :facepalm: (I think I'll include this emoji in all my responses to you :laugh:). Anyway.. as I said.. keep on keeping on!

Your defence is childish and idiotic. You weren't sarcastic when you said that Djokovic in 2018 needs to have a year like Federer in 2017 in order to show he is a superior player than Roger.

you said he is better in everything except being as aesthetically pleasing, trying to play word games? you are just a shameless clown who'll say anything.

Dunderhead, in the post #16 I stated the following:

"When I said Djokovic is better than Federer in everything except being aesthetically pleasing to the eye I meant:
- overall better gamewise
- mentally stronger
- higher tennis intelligence
- better body for tennis
"

And in the post #41 I stated this:

"I said his game is overall superior which in other words means Federer's game is better in some parts but taken everything into account, Novak's is better"

So, yes, you lied when you made the clam that I said Djokovic is better in every aspect.

your 'peak' bs, what is that?

Chucklehead, see dictionary http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/peak

it's never peak when he gets beaten, yeah ok.

Djokovic has never beaten peak Federer.

....but doesn't explain why an inferior player would beat a superior player in his 'prime' so regularly.

Since 2011 the head to head record at slams is 7:2 to Novak.

for someone to say all these to prop up his player is clear evidence of a degenerate. yeah he got a lead since 2011 and that's what you write home about? do you realise since 2011 Federer is past his prime and Novak entered his? clearly not as you clearly watch tennis because of an idol, facts mean nothing to you.

It's a fact that Federer's style of play is far less taxing on body.

regarding Federberg's comment none of us buys into your bs and sorted you out, there was never an 'argument'......that's just shameless and meaningless screaming hoping to get some recognition. Too bad you are exposed.

Bonehead, you've failed to refute my argument.

It is not reasonable to believe one's form goes crap given extra rest, unless you are a dimwit looking for excuse, after being butt hurt. FFS since when is it considered a bad thing that you get more rest than your opponent? people ALWAYS complain about having 'less' rest......get that through your head dimwit.

Bubblehead, I quote the official ATP site:

"Having received a walkover from Czech Jiri Vesely in the second round, Djokovic’s biggest concern heading into the second week of the Open will be a lack of match play. Top of mind will be the walkover Djokovic received from Fabio Fognini in the Roland Garros quarter-finals in 2011. At the time Djokovic was on a 43-match winning streak (41-0 on the year), but the disruption to his rhythm was attributed in part to his stumble against Roger Federer in the semi-finals."

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/djokovic-short-on-match-play-us-open-2016

Finally i remember what Novak said

You failed to provide a link or video that shows what Novak said. You're a liar.
 
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Your defence is childish and idiotic. You weren't sarcastic when you said that Djokovic in 2018 needs to have a year like Federer in 2017 in order to show he is a superior player than Roger.

I have to be honest here, and even though it's insulting, it's also factual... you're a moron. I can't describe you any other way. Moxie and Front got it, as I'm sure many others did. If you don't even get basic humor and sarcasm what's the point of continuing with this! Don't even know why I'm responding to be honest. Guess I just want to help you:lol6::facepalm:!