A New Big Four?

[calitennis127]

It seems a bit sudden, my friend. Let's see how far he pushes things next week, and the week after. And then Oz. Winning 500 events is great but it doesn't get a chap over da hump, ya know what I mean?

Four smiles for the Big Four.

And also for the fact that Kieran never fails to cut down players whose results are very nearly elite, but not quite there, especially if the players in question are Argentines.

 

[Kieran]

It seems a bit sudden, my friend. Let's see how far he pushes things next week, and the week after. And then Oz. Winning 500 events is great but it doesn't get a chap over da hump, ya know what I mean?

Four smiles for the Big Four.

And also for the fact that Kieran never fails to cut down players whose results are very nearly elite, but not quite there, especially if the players in question are Argentines.

That's really bizarre. I'm the one who held a Big 3+1 line against Murray until he'd earned it. The closest thing to Argentina about Andy is the Falkland Islands! :lolz:

 

[Denis]

Ah yes the Falklands; the last remnants of the Empire. Seems like they are hanging on to it to remind them of the good old times.

 

[Kieran]

Ah yes the Falklands; the last remnants of the Empire. Seems like they are hanging on to it to remind them of the good old times.

Well, that, and the fact that it belongs to them, and the people there voted to remain British.

But Cali makes an odd point. I mean, is he suggesting that I'm somehow against Argentinian players? I'm wracking my brains on this one, but they're not up to the task! :snigger

 

[Denis]

Hehe, well 'belonging' is a bit of a strange word to use there, but yes the 3000 settlers they sent over there voted to stay with the UK. Whats there business in that part of the world again?

 

[Kieran]

Hehe, well 'belonging' is a bit of a strange word to use there, but yes the 3000 settlers they sent over there voted to stay with the UK. Whats there business in that part of the world again?

The same as the Germanic Kirchner - they live there!

 

[Denis]

Does Kirchner want to accede to Germany? Lol, that would be funny. Anyway, as you said re the Falklands: I agree that it is up to the people who live there to decide.

 

[GameSetAndMath]

Look at this years distribution of big titles minus WTF.

GS: Nadal -2; Novak - 1; Andy 1.

MS: Nadal - 5; Novak - 3; Andy 1.

Does anybody see four names here?

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

^^what ?..you mean federers glorious lone atp250 title in halle is nay getting him in the 'big4' debate ??,

oh ok then.

 

[Riotbeard]

^^what ?..you mean federers glorious lone atp250 title in halle is nay getting him in the 'big4' debate ??,

oh ok then.

Haha, the question was are we moving toward a new big four. I don't think anyone has said one exists yet. I think we are moving in that direction, but I definitely agree, that Delpo has to prove it, post-injury, on the big stage. It is hard to see him not grabbing a masters soon if he keeps up the rate of 2 finals a year, and if he moves into the number four ranking, my mind would be blown, if he doesn't pick up a masters title relatively soon afterwards. That is a conditional prediction, that can be brought up if I am wrong. In both the finals this years, a few games go a different way, and he wins. The point being he was close when having to run through a large share of the top players!

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

^^what ?..you mean federers glorious lone atp250 title in halle is nay getting him in the 'big4' debate ??,

oh ok then.

Haha, the question was are we moving toward a new big four. I don't think anyone has said one exists yet. I think we are moving in that direction, but I definitely agree, that Delpo has to prove it, post-injury, on the big stage. It is hard to see him not grabbing a masters soon if he keeps up the rate of 2 finals a year, and if he moves into the number four ranking, my mind would be blown, if he doesn't pick up a masters title relatively soon afterwards. That is a conditional prediction, that can be brought up if I am wrong. In both the finals this years, a few games go a different way, and he wins. The point being he was close when having to run through a large share of the top players!

realise it was about a new big 4..i felt like poking fun at the fedster,

likely del potro makes a big 4 in 2014.

 

[huntingyou]

Look at this years distribution of big titles minus WTF.

GS: Nadal -2; Novak - 1; Andy 1.

MS: Nadal - 5; Novak - 3; Andy 1.

Does anybody see four names here?

As long as Rafa, Nole and Andy stay injury free.........Delpo will not crack the "Big Four" title. Well, he can for sure IF the draw plays out to his advantage but taking two out three in a GS seems almost imposible at the moment. Maybe on clay he has a better chance if somebody takes Novak/Rafa out so he just have to deal with one of them....and then pray for the best day of his life on the court.

 

[ClayDeath]

I have no doubt that andy is taking the Wimbledon crown in 2014.

 

[Fiero425]

Look at this years distribution of big titles minus WTF.

GS: Nadal -2; Novak - 1; Andy 1.

MS: Nadal - 5; Novak - 3; Andy 1.

Does anybody see four names here?

As long as Rafa, Nole and Andy stay injury free.........Delpo will not crack the "Big Four" title. Well, he can for sure IF the draw plays out to his advantage but taking two out three in a GS seems almost imposible at the moment. Maybe on clay he has a better chance if somebody takes Novak/Rafa out so he just have to deal with one of them....and then pray for the best day of his life on the court.

ITA! We used to have more upsets when the courts were significantly more difficult to adjust to, but that along with extended seedings, the top hasn't had much of a challenge until now! We don't know if Roger can make it back to the elite 4, but we're still dealing with the same top players; Nole & Rafa! I can't see that changing anytime soon unless another injury errupts within their ranks! After all that playing last season, I can see Rafa coming up lame; in more ways than one! Nole has recovered some of his confidence with this late season surge! I hope it continues through the AO! :angel:

 

[Riotbeard]

Look at this years distribution of big titles minus WTF.

GS: Nadal -2; Novak - 1; Andy 1.

MS: Nadal - 5; Novak - 3; Andy 1.

Does anybody see four names here?

As long as Rafa, Nole and Andy stay injury free.........Delpo will not crack the "Big Four" title. Well, he can for sure IF the draw plays out to his advantage but taking two out three in a GS seems almost imposible at the moment. Maybe on clay he has a better chance if somebody takes Novak/Rafa out so he just have to deal with one of them....and then pray for the best day of his life on the court.

I don't know, it's not like when Delpo won the USO he didn't have through the 2 best players in the world at that time (maybe the 2 greatest of all time for that matter).

 

[Riotbeard]

^^what ?..you mean federers glorious lone atp250 title in halle is nay getting him in the 'big4' debate ??,

oh ok then.

Haha, the question was are we moving toward a new big four. I don't think anyone has said one exists yet. I think we are moving in that direction, but I definitely agree, that Delpo has to prove it, post-injury, on the big stage. It is hard to see him not grabbing a masters soon if he keeps up the rate of 2 finals a year, and if he moves into the number four ranking, my mind would be blown, if he doesn't pick up a masters title relatively soon afterwards. That is a conditional prediction, that can be brought up if I am wrong. In both the finals this years, a few games go a different way, and he wins. The point being he was close when having to run through a large share of the top players!

realise it was about a new big 4..i felt like poking fun at the fedster,

likely del potro makes a big 4 in 2014.

I don't why I hit reply to you, I was actually replying to GSM. I enjoyed your joke though :angel:

 

[Fiero425]

Look at this years distribution of big titles minus WTF.

GS: Nadal -2; Novak - 1; Andy 1.

MS: Nadal - 5; Novak - 3; Andy 1.

Does anybody see four names here?

As long as Rafa, Nole and Andy stay injury free.........Delpo will not crack the "Big Four" title. Well, he can for sure IF the draw plays out to his advantage but taking two out three in a GS seems almost imposible at the moment. Maybe on clay he has a better chance if somebody takes Novak/Rafa out so he just have to deal with one of them....and then pray for the best day of his life on the court.

I don't know, it's not like when Delpo won the USO he didn't have through the 2 best players in the world at that time (maybe the 2 greatest of all time for that matter).

Why do you say that? :nono It's been a few years, but IIRC DelPo stomped Rafa 2, 2, & 2, then came back to beat Roger in 5! Maybe I need to go and look it up, but that's how I remember it! :huh: :nono

 

[Riotbeard]

Look at this years distribution of big titles minus WTF.

GS: Nadal -2; Novak - 1; Andy 1.

MS: Nadal - 5; Novak - 3; Andy 1.

Does anybody see four names here?

As long as Rafa, Nole and Andy stay injury free.........Delpo will not crack the "Big Four" title. Well, he can for sure IF the draw plays out to his advantage but taking two out three in a GS seems almost imposible at the moment. Maybe on clay he has a better chance if somebody takes Novak/Rafa out so he just have to deal with one of them....and then pray for the best day of his life on the court.

I don't know, it's not like when Delpo won the USO he didn't have through the 2 best players in the world at that time (maybe the 2 greatest of all time for that matter).

Why do you say that? :nono It's been a few years, but IIRC DelPo stomped Rafa 2, 2, & 2, then came back to beat Roger in 5! Maybe I need to go and look it up, but that's how I remember it! :huh: :nono

You responding to me? I think we are saying the same thing

 

[GameSetAndMath]

^^what ?..you mean federers glorious lone atp250 title in halle is nay getting him in the 'big4' debate ??,

oh ok then.

Haha, the question was are we moving toward a new big four. I don't think anyone has said one exists yet. I think we are moving in that direction, but I definitely agree, that Delpo has to prove it, post-injury, on the big stage. It is hard to see him not grabbing a masters soon if he keeps up the rate of 2 finals a year, and if he moves into the number four ranking, my mind would be blown, if he doesn't pick up a masters title relatively soon afterwards. That is a conditional prediction, that can be brought up if I am wrong. In both the finals this years, a few games go a different way, and he wins. The point being he was close when having to run through a large share of the top players!

realise it was about a new big 4..i felt like poking fun at the fedster,

likely del potro makes a big 4 in 2014.

I don't why I hit reply to you, I was actually replying to GSM. I enjoyed your joke though :angel:

I am actually a fan of Del Potro also. You can see my first post in this thread.
I certainly believe that by the end of 2014, he will be in top 4. As I already said,
I would not call any top 4 as big 4. Before being called a member of Big 4, Del Potro
needs to achieve lot more.

For example this year Ferrer is in top 4 (actually he is now 3). Would anyone
call him a part of big four even for this year? How could he be in big four when he
has not won any GS/MS.

To me more interesting thing is to wonder as to who Del Potro will push
if he joings top four? On top of it, who Roger will push out, if he reenters
top four? Murray and Ferrer? or Nadal with another knee episode?

Surely, the competition is tightening.

 

[herios]

Look at this years distribution of big titles minus WTF.

GS: Nadal -2; Novak - 1; Andy 1.

MS: Nadal - 5; Novak - 3; Andy 1.

Does anybody see four names here?

As long as Rafa, Nole and Andy stay injury free.........Delpo will not crack the "Big Four" title. Well, he can for sure IF the draw plays out to his advantage but taking two out three in a GS seems almost imposible at the moment. Maybe on clay he has a better chance if somebody takes Novak/Rafa out so he just have to deal with one of them....and then pray for the best day of his life on the court.

Well, as we saw in 2013. the top guys were not as bullet proof as they were in 2011-12, when there were top 4 to deal with. This year one of the top 3 was either injured or upset earlier: Rafa at OZ, Andy at RG, Rafa at SW and Andy again at the USO. So the chances have increased to see other guys in the final stages. I think the doors will widen more next year.