2021 Australian Open Final: Novak Djokovic vs. Daniil Medvedev

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Sampras is little more skilled than Federer on grass better serve volleys net game movement ECT. it's clear Federer is second on all surfaces now.
Better serve undoubtedly, back hand wasn't great and he played on fast grass. No one knows how good he'd be on the current pathetic excuse for grass so, no, Federer most definitely is not second on all surfaces. He won 5 straight US Opens which won't be beaten anytime soon and won more slams on grass than Sampras. As you seem to be all for the numbers, you can't have it both ways. 8 > 7 so Federer is better on grass than Sampras. Djokovic hasn't performed any better than Federer at RG either.
 

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Better serve undoubtedly, back hand wasn't great and he played on fast grass. No one knows how good he'd be on the current pathetic excuse for grass so, no, Federer most definitely is not second on all surfaces. He won 5 straight US Opens which won't be beaten anytime soon and won more slams on grass than Sampras. As you seem to be all for the numbers, you can't have it both ways. 8 > 7 so Federer is better on grass than Sampras. Djokovic hasn't performed any better than Federer at RG either.
Federer not even close to all time record at USO and has not won since 08. Second yes Federer just edge's Sampras on grass but I only said could make a case for Sampras which is true. 3rd Djokovic already has more masters on clay than Federer and only needs one more RG final to overtake there as well.
 

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A badly Injured Nadal was up 2 sets against world number 6 tsitsipas which was super epic by everybody hero Nadal.
 

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Well done luckily hard court specialist Djokovic winning 12 of 18 slams on 1 surface hard courts. Only 6 outside hard courts which is less than both Nadal 7 and Federer 12.
It is not over yet my friend.

He definitely keeps it rollin!
 
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A badly Injured Nadal was up 2 sets against world number 6 tsitsipas which was super epic by everybody hero Nadal.
He was not badly injured for the last time. You're such an embarrassment.
 

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Federer not even close to all time record at USO and has not won since 08. Second yes Federer just edge's Sampras on grass but I only said could make a case for Sampras which is true. 3rd Djokovic already has more masters on clay than Federer and only needs one more RG final to overtake there as well.
LOL at only needs one more RG. It's pretty damn hard for either of them to win another RG right now, don't you think?! I'm actually complimenting Nadal here because unless he loses they're both stuck on 1 RG. Yes, Djokovic has won more clay masters but he never got to MP in best of 5 against Nadal on clay and Federer did in Rome 2006 where he held 2 match points. Also, both Nadal and Federer have won multiple masters back when they were much tougher to win in best of 5 sets and Djokovic has 0 won at 5 set level. Numbers don't tell the whole story at all.
 

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Congrats to Novak!

Watched the entire match in encore presentation. Didn't expect the way the match unfolded although the result was expected.
Never thought Med will go away so easily. The first set was quite competitive and then Med vanished completely. You cannot do that.

It appears that Nole signed up for Dubai and we may see him play Fed there, assuming Fed doesn't get ousted earlier.
 
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Great win for the Serbian Slayer! He is the undisputed king Down Under and he seems quite healthy and hungry for more. Amazing his service was so effective this fortnight. That could be a harbinger of things to come later if he can keep that service going.
 
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Great win for the Serbian Slayer! He is the undisputed king Down Under and he seems quite healthy and hungry for more. Amazing his service was so effective this fortnight. That could be a harbinger of things to come later if he can keep that service going.
Yeah thx to Goran.
Hope he can keep this up, Wimbledon is calling.
 

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Nice words during the ceremony from both, no bullshit, honest respect. :clap:
 
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LOL at only needs one more RG. It's pretty damn hard for either of them to win another RG right now, don't you think?! I'm actually complimenting Nadal here because unless he loses they're both stuck on 1 RG. Yes, Djokovic has won more clay masters but he never got to MP in best of 5 against Nadal on clay and Federer did in Rome 2006 where he held 2 match points. Also, both Nadal and Federer have won multiple masters back when they were much tougher to win in best of 5 sets and Djokovic has 0 won at 5 set level. Numbers don't tell the whole story at all.
I dont know the context of this quote but a fact check here

Djokovic has beaten Nadal at Roland Garros in 2015. He not only had an MP but actually won it. Granted of course that this was the worst Nadal has ever been on the clay. Djokovic's first master's title was in Miami in 2007 which was a best of 5 final, so he did win one at the age of 19

Also, only 5 of Nadals 35 master's wins have been with a best of 5 final. He did accumulate a lot after the format changed to best of 3.
 

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I dont know the context of this quote but a fact check here

Djokovic has beaten Nadal at Roland Garros in 2015. He not only had an MP but actually won it. Granted of course that this was the worst Nadal has ever been on the clay. Djokovic's first master's title was in Miami in 2007 which was a best of 5 final, so he did win one at the age of 19

Also, only 5 of Nadals 35 master's wins have been with a best of 5 final. He did accumulate a lot after the format changed to best of 3.
Yes, as you said, widely recognized as the absolute worst version of Nadal not only on clay, he was losing to everyone and their dog that year on every surface. Hardly the same thing as 2006 Nadal on clay now is it?! Yes, that's still a lot more than Djokovic at best of 5 in the masters and apologies, I stand corrected for saying Djokovic had none, that was off the top of my head but I guess I can be forgiven as 1 and none are pretty close. For the record, given the field was much tougher back then and many masters finals were best of 5 up to 2007, and therefore the same level of difficulty as a slam final, Federer has won 8 of these. That's why simple numbers of masters alone do not tell the whole picture whatsoever. Djokovic has won more because they're easier to win now as best of 3, the field is weaker and one of his top contenders is ancient in tennis terms.
 
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We still need to see the next wave of players beat the big 3 in a Major finals. Medvedev is 0-2, Theim is 0-3, if they don’t do it this year, IMO all bragging rights are off permanently.

Besting them in Major finals in 2022 when the Big 3 will be 35, 36 and 40 , what’s the point in that?.
 

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We still need to see the next wave of players beat the big 3 in a Major finals. Medvedev is 0-2, Theim is 0-3, if they don’t do it this year, IMO all bragging rights are off permanently.

Besting them in Major finals in 2022 when the Big 3 will be 35, 36 and 40 , what’s the point in that?.
Well if you're a rabid Djokovic fan or one of the 2 Nadal clowns here continously slagging Federer (yes, those 2) apparently beating a near 40 year old is a massive achievement and counts as massive bragging rights in the yeah but my player is better than yours and it doesn't matter that he's nearly 40 department. It's all about the numbers, no context!
 
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On paper, Djokovic should dominate this match-up. Medvedev has a good serve but Djokovic can neutralize it just as does against bigger servers, like Raonic. Then off the baseline, Djokovic hits a cleaner ball, is steady and takes ball early. Medvedev has a lot of feel, is tricky, awkward and difficult to beat but this is not the match-up that can stand up to an in form Djokovic. Medvedev is very solid and good enough to beat Djokovic every now and then but i just don't think he can hang with an in form, top Djokovic on hardcourt.

18 and counting..... it's plausible Novak will end with record of slams and weeks at #1 (getting close here too) and Fed and Nadal fans will just hate it....
 

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We still need to see the next wave of players beat the big 3 in a Major finals. Medvedev is 0-2, Theim is 0-3, if they don’t do it this year, IMO all bragging rights are off permanently.

Besting them in Major finals in 2022 when the Big 3 will be 35, 36 and 40 , what’s the point in that?.
I think this is an interesting point, and I'm not sure what we do with it. You are right that, if the Next Gen, or whatever, don't beat the elite Big 3 in at least one Major this year, they've lost their opportunity to prove something. Medvedev may have just lost it for them. How much longer can they get a win that claims bragging rights? Certain partizans here are insisting that it was just too much Djokovic today, but it was a pathetic Medvedev, too. Djokovic handed him a few opportunities, and he couldn't seize them. I get if the rest of the field will never be equivalent to these 3 legends. But then they will always be lesser. Nadal and Djokovic stepped up to the challenge of Federer. There really isn't anyone younger that is meeting that same challenge.
 

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Well that was a complete let down from Med,Novak just too good he has made 'that court in Melbourne his own back yard'
Well done Novak!
yes especially as the russian had a 20 match winning run going into the final. He was totally outplayed but even so tennis fans everywhere had every right to expect a more competitive final. Very anti-climatic finish to the mens and women's singles this year competition.
 
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...but that really was a pathetic speech by the tennis australia CEO, don't know her name. She was rightly booed twice because she brought politics into the speech, how dare she ! Go back to america you dumb b..ch. How does some foreigner get to be CEO of australian tennis federation, anyhow?
 
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Djokovic proves once again what a mental giant he is, this slam is huge, the way he won it, the matches he played, the injury, the struggle, just special.
I don't want to seem like a hater, but Djokovic is not a mental giant. He went 2 years on a mental walkabout. He melts down regularly. He offered Medvedev gifts in this final, and the Russian was too weak to take them. After winning the first set, via crap play from Daniil, Novak got crabby for no reason at all and dropped serve. There was no reason for that, other than nerves. That's not mental fortitude. He was rather lucky that Daniil was so bent on self-destruction in this match. The first set and a half was about who wanted it less. Djokovic is not a mental giant. He's a great talent, and a temperamental one. Even he says that he's going to smash racquets and be who he is, and don't make him stop. This is not self-control. He's talented, but he's not mentally in control of himself all of the time, and sometimes he does beat himself. I think that's fair to say.