2020 ATP General News

[MargaretMcAleer]

The ITF announces that it is furloughing about half its staff after having to postpone 900 tournaments,including the Fed Cup Finals.
20 percent reduction in salary for senior leadership.
30 percent reduction in salary for ITF president Dave Haggerty.

 

[Moxie]

That is an important point as well. If you include all of the factors, I personally think that this insurance is waste of money.

I don't think Wimbledon would be saying it's a waste of money, right now.

 

[Moxie]

Of course, not. Moreover, these being gig work, typically they will not even be compensated by any govt. hand offs.

Actually, it is being discussed that some of that insurance money will go to the workers furloughed by the fact that the tournament is cancelled. No reason to be cynical until we see what they do with it.

 

[Bonaca]

Happy Easter to all the christians out there!

 

[Mile]

Can you name the countries in Europe that are moving back to normal? because I just don't see it at all,Italy,Spain,France ,London are still in a very bad situation.I am in the medical profession by the way.It will take at least six months to see a Flattening of the Curve,people are still dying in high numbers all over Europe.Sport Will Survive People's Life's Will Not.

See north Europe, Denmark first, Scandinavia. Here in Balkan some markets will start to work from next week. Probably England, USA wont. France is getting into the game, Tour de France might not be canceled, but postponed to 25. july. Also RG is still in game so they dont give up. I think some states canceled sport to soon. Borders are getting open again at us, with 2 neighbours.

 

[Bonaca]

See north Europe, Denmark first, Scandinavia. Here in Balkan some markets will start to work from next week. Probably England, USA wont. France is getting into the game, Tour de France might not be canceled, but postponed to 25. july. Also RG is still in game so they dont give up. I think some states canceled sport to soon. Borders are getting open again at us, with 2 neighbours.

Also Austria is good example for normalization

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

See north Europe, Denmark first, Scandinavia. Here in Balkan some markets will start to work from next week. Probably England, USA wont. France is getting into the game, Tour de France might not be canceled, but postponed to 25. july. Also RG is still in game so they dont give up. I think some states canceled sport to soon. Borders are getting open again at us, with 2 neighbours.

Well countries like Singapore decided to lift bans and now they are having to go back to their restrictions? sorry this is a 'very bad transmitting virus.France still has high numbers,they wont be letting their restrictions alter at present.I totally disagree with you that some states canceled sport too soon.Social distancing is one way to combat this virus,full stop., also self isolation.,only going out for essential items.There is no vaccine for this virus,which takes about one year plus.Quite frankly it will not surprise me if tennis for example will be cancelled for 2020.Both the WTA and ATP are making their final decisions regarding the summer hard court season by June 1.I have seen first hand what this virus does.,as I work in the medical profession.
There is no point discussing this with you further as your on your own agenda,I strongly suggest you google what a Global Pandemic' is about and also google what are the effects of Coronavirus? seeing people struggling to breathe is not a pleasant sight I can assure you.

 

[Mile]

More people die because of vaccine than disease. Not to mention handicap of vaccines leading to cancer etc. This become just one more on virus list. We have flu, and vaccines. Why and how many died each year ? More than from covid, which already had 2 forms -19 and -2. Do you imagine to take all those vaccines ? Flu A, flu B, flu C, Covid-2, Covid-19 with all other thet get (measles, smallpox, tetanus, polio,...). Nonsense. Virus will become seasonal like others. In autumn/winter time. You wont get a rid of it. You can just pass it. I am sure more people in each state die for flu than Covid, not to mention cancer (results of all chemicals in blood - vaccine).

So start with sport, thats best "vaccine". One day we might realitze virus was made in lab, to get rid of pensioners.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

More people die because of vaccine than disease. Not to mention handicap of vaccines leading to cancer etc. This become just one more on virus list. We have flu, and vaccines. Why and how many died each year ? More than from covid, which already had 2 forms -19 and -2. Do you imagine to take all those vaccines ? Flu A, flu B, flu C, Covid-2, Covid-19 with all other thet get (measles, smallpox, tetanus, polio,...). Nonsense. Virus will become seasonal like others. In autumn/winter time. You wont get a rid of it. You can just pass it. I am sure more people in each state die for flu than Covid, not to mention cancer (results of all chemicals in blood - vaccine).

So start with sport, thats best "vaccine". One day we might realitze virus was made in lab, to get rid of pensioners.

This virus was started in a Wuhan Wet Market,this virus by the way Should Have Never Been Started In The First Place if the Chinese had stricter hygiene to begin with.We are dealing with a world wide global pandemic at present which is transmitted easily through people coming in close contact with one another. I am quite aware of what the flu can do? as in my country we are also coming into the flu season,also trying to flatten the curve of this virus.I am done discussing this with you as your only concern is you are missing out on sport.Dont bother to reply to this post as I have put you on my 'ignore list'.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

ATP and WTA launch new digital show 'Tennis United'.Tennis United will feature interviews and discussion with ATP and WTA players,and will air every Friday on both tour digital platforms.The show will bring the tennis world together during the hiatus on both the ATP and WTA Tours,as well as engaging athletes and fans from across the entire sporting world.Tennis United will broadcast on the ATP and WTA Facebook and You Tube channels,with sections of the show also available on Twitter and Instagram.

 

[Moxie]

This virus was started in a Wuhan Wet Market,this virus by the way Should Have Never Been Started In The First Place if the Chinese had stricter hygiene to begin with.We are dealing with a world wide global pandemic at present which is transmitted easily through people coming in close contact with one another. I am quite aware of what the flu can do? as in my country we are also coming into the flu season,also trying to flatten the curve of this virus.I am done discussing this with you as your only concern is you are missing out on sport.Dont bother to reply to this post as I have put you on my 'ignore list'.

I kind of can't believe you gave @Mile a pass on the notion that vaccines kill more people than disease. This is completely non-science. And that vaccines lead to cancer? Who ever said that? The nonsense that people believe and spread on the internet is incredible. Also, it's not confirmed how the virus entered the human strain. We should keep our eyes and ears open to the science before we draw conclusions. Someone here posted an article that the bat coronovirus was being studied in a lab near the Wuhan market. It could also have come from contamination of studied materials which were poorly disposed of. There is so much we don't know, and time will tell.

But to the point, vaccines save our lives. The flu vaccine doesn't contain every strain every year, but it is a best guess to protect us. Just because people die of flu should not be our reason for not getting the vaccine. It should absolutely be our reason for doing it. Just like social isolating against COVID-19, we take our flu shots to protect those around us. That's why COVID-19 is so much more dangerous than a regular flu: because none of us is immune. The risks in vaccine are low, but the dangers of not vaccinating are high. We'd nearly eliminated measles, via vaccine, but then a few stupid anti-Vaxxers stopped vaccinating their kids, and children started dying from it again. This is stupid.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I kind of can't believe you gave @Mile a pass on the notion that vaccines kill more people than disease. This is completely non-science. And that vaccines lead to cancer? Who ever said that? The nonsense that people believe and spread on the internet is incredible. Also, it's not confirmed how the virus entered the human strain. We should keep our eyes and ears open to the science before we draw conclusions. Someone here posted an article that the bat coronovirus was being studied in a lab near the Wuhan market. It could also have come from contamination of studied materials which were poorly disposed of. There is so much we don't know, and time will tell.

But to the point, vaccines save our lives. The flu vaccine doesn't contain every strain every year, but it is a best guess to protect us. Just because people die of flu should not be our reason for not getting the vaccine. It should absolutely be our reason for doing it. Just like social isolating against COVID-19, we take our flu shots to protect those around us. That's why COVID-19 is so much more dangerous than a regular flu: because none of us is immune. The risks in vaccine are low, but the dangers of not vaccinating are high. We'd nearly eliminated measles, via vaccine, but then a few stupid anti-Vaxxers stopped vaccinating their kids, and children started dying from it again. This is stupid.

I thought about it,though this poster just dosent listen to any proven medical advice full stop,I have met many people that don't believe in vaccinations full stop and believe it kills them.Even many people here were not having their babies vaccinated and children would you believe?until the government stepped in and stated that no children age 5 and were about to start school (kindergarten) must have all their vaccinations or they cannot start school.I have personally nursed a young child many years ago with 'Hooping Cough' she was lucky to live quite frankly,her parents did not believe in vaccinations.Thankfully now people are heeding the advice of medical people Who Actually Know What They Are Doing.Talking to this poster is like talking to a brick wall,the poster has nothing constructive to post for example the parting post regarding a virus made in the lab to get rid of pensioners? is this poster aware one day he/she will be a pensioner,just a ignorant and disgusting thought period.Just a waste of time anyone replying quite frankly.The poster is on my ignore list.

 

[Moxie]

I thought about it,though this poster just dosent listen to any proven medical advice full stop,I have met many people that don't believe in vaccinations full stop and believe it kills them.Even many people here were not having their babies vaccinated and children would you believe?until the government stepped in and stated that no children age 5 and were about to start school (kindergarten) must have all their vaccinations or they cannot start school.I have personally nursed a young child many years ago with 'Hooping Cough' she was lucky to live quite frankly,her parents did not believe in vaccinations.Thankfully now people are heeding the advice of medical people Who Actually Know What They Are Doing.Talking to this poster is like talking to a brick wall,the poster has nothing constructive to post for example the parting post regarding a virus made in the lab to get rid of pensioners? is this poster aware one day he/she will be a pensioner,just a ignorant and disgusting thought period.Just a waste of time anyone replying quite frankly.The poster is on my ignore list.

I wasn't talking to that poster @Mile who is clearly an idiot and a lost cause. I was talking to the rest of them. I just hope no one else is buying into baseless, voodoo claptrap.

 

[MargaretMcAleer]

I wasn't talking to that poster @Mile who is clearly an idiot and a lost cause. I was talking to the rest of them. I just hope no one else is buying into baseless, voodoo claptrap.

People need to get off the internet especially anything regarding science and medical,always use your own government medical internet,we have one here in Sydney and for the rest of the states.

It is baseless,hopefully sensible people will see reason,though there will always be a percentage of people that don't believe in any medical advice given,even when studies over many years have proven to be correct.

 

[10isfan]

I’ve been reading about mathematical models for the virus, and have come to the conclusion that most sporting events will be canceled until a vaccine or cure is found. I wouldn’t be surprised if no tennis tournaments are played unless it’s without spectators. As soon as countries lift the lockdown, the virus will spread like wildfire. Read the article yourself if interested by googling
A call to honesty in pandemic modeling

 

[Mile]

I’ve been reading about mathematical models for the virus, and have come to the conclusion that most sporting events will be canceled until a vaccine or cure is found. I wouldn’t be surprised if no tennis tournaments are played unless it’s without spectators. As soon as countries lift the lockdown, the virus will spread like wildfire. Read the article yourself if interested by googling
A call to honesty in pandemic modeling

We will see the result in 2-3 weeks. Around week ago i said Spain will be 1st on die rate, hygiene there is bellow average. When i was traveling around the World and met Hispanos, they were very dirty people. Washing their hands is big problem to them.

Check this list of Hygiene

Well we know Rafa hand-ass-nose-mouth ritual too. Italy is very near. Suppose MargaretMcAleer is from Australia, Zeland ? What she think - vaccine is so good, that's why Australia and Zeland are 1st on cancer die rate, with US almost near.

So wash hands more often and skip the panic. Read more about vaccines and why parents wont push their babies to it. Panic is almost endorsing that SARS or Swine flu bigmania, when farmaceutic companies earned billions. Keep calm and move on, sport will start soon.

 

[Bonaca]

We will see the result in 2-3 weeks. Around week ago i said Spain will be 1st on die rate, hygiene there is bellow average. When i was traveling around the World and met Hispanos, they were very dirty people. Washing their hands is big problem to them.

Check this list of Hygiene

Well we know Rafa hand-ass-nose-mouth ritual too. Italy is very near. Suppose MargaretMcAleer is from Australia, Zeland ? What she think - vaccine is so good, that's why Australia and Zeland are 1st on cancer die rate, with US almost near.

So wash hands more often and skip the panic. Read more about vaccines and why parents wont push their babies to it. Panic is almost endorsing that SARS or Swine flu bigmania, when farmaceutic companies earned billions. Keep calm and move on, sport will start soon.

The problem with this virus is not so much lubricating infection than aerosol inhalation. Most important to protect infection is distance and spitting protection, If someone wants to protect mass-infection and risk economic disaster. But that’s another question.

The vaccine theme is a well known and often discussed in the medical world. It is not easy to answer. Because of the available informations.
All studies that are cited were more or less influenced by Pharma industry, so are the fucking state leaders who want to rule the world. Pharma Lobby is very strong.
How much can we rely on that? I don’t know. Is every vaccine available really reasonable? I don’t know.
It is an monstrous business!
Which country wants to set the standard? And based on what?
Just a few thoughts to this discussion.

 

[britbox]

More people die because of vaccine than disease. Not to mention handicap of vaccines leading to cancer etc. This become just one more on virus list. We have flu, and vaccines. Why and how many died each year ? More than from covid, which already had 2 forms -19 and -2. Do you imagine to take all those vaccines ? Flu A, flu B, flu C, Covid-2, Covid-19 with all other thet get (measles, smallpox, tetanus, polio,...). Nonsense. Virus will become seasonal like others. In autumn/winter time. You wont get a rid of it. You can just pass it. I am sure more people in each state die for flu than Covid, not to mention cancer (results of all chemicals in blood - vaccine).

So start with sport, thats best "vaccine". One day we might realitze virus was made in lab, to get rid of pensioners.

More people die of vaccine than disease? Care to run me through some numbers to support that theory? I'm pretty open-minded and sceptical about a lot of Big Pharma, but some claims move into the realms of fantasy. Maybe start with measles... go ahead and make a case.

 

[Bonaca]

More people die of vaccine than disease? Care to run me through some numbers to support that theory? I'm pretty open-minded and sceptical about a lot of Big Pharma, but some claims move into the realms of fantasy. Maybe start with measles... go ahead and make a case.

The numbers to support or refute are the problem. Who can proof they are reliable?
For me I think it starts reasonable but now I am not sure in every case.
I am sceptical for at least Rotavirus, meningococcus, pneumococcus, and the whole flu-section. Let alone the HPV for girls.

 

[britbox]

The numbers to support or refute are the problem. Who can proof they are reliable?
For me I think it starts reasonable but now I am not sure in every case.
I am sceptical for at least Rotavirus, meningococcus, pneumococcus, and the whole flu-section. Let alone the HPV for girls.

OK, for Rotavirus (I'm no medical expert and haven't even heard of it)... how many people have died from a vaccine jab? I'm not trying to pull you up in particular, just looking for some arguments reasoned with data.