2019 Men's Wimbledon Championships

[brokenshoelace]

There is simply no comparison between Tsonga's FH and Kyrgios FH. No comparison. For one simple reason, and it really baffles me how people refuse to see it. Kyrgios can only hit hard when the ball is high enough -- he needs to hit a flat shot, facing forward or slightly downwards. Otherwise he loops the ball to the back of the court. Tsonga can play hard almost every single shot (actually, he goes for it too much), he has the talent/technique to do that. He is a completely different player than Kyrgios. It should be a good match.

I'm honestly thrilled there are other people who pick up on these things around here.

 

[DarthFed]

His backhand is legitimately bushleague and I'm utterly shocked people don't factor that in when talking about how supposedly talented he is.

I think movement was the main thing today. I'm not as bullish on his overall talent as some here but he usually moves pretty damn well which allows him to stay in rallies and gives him chances to break at least somewhat occasionally. And with an insane serve, good touch and pretty clutch play when he actually cares he is tough. Today he didn't really have that, it was just his serve that made it semi-interesting.

 

[Ricardo]

How the fuck is Nick more talented? Like seriously... Based on what? I'm very curious.

something needs to add up here, if a guy has a great serve and everything else is pretty mediocre according to you, then he goes out and teed up wins against the big 3, and doesn't train or isn't focused like other players, then he has got to be TOP TALENT...….there is simply no other way. after reading your self-entitled post, you clearly know so little that I don't even think it's worth responding to. But i'll simplify it for you, you haven't played the guy, not even hit with him, nor have studied him with any professional knowledge which his opponents obviously do, who the fuck are you to hand out verdict?

As if Nadal doesn't know better, or FAA who absolutely despise him? not only the big three but the former greats also acknowledged how talented and how much ability Nick has. Truth is, all you see is from the TV and you think you know better, because you are the one being biased.

In fact Nadal simply doesn't like him and has no reason to praise him but has said Nick should be out there winning slams and playing for top ranking, I don't see him ever talking about another player like that, certainly not one with a good serve with nothing else to show for. FAA specifically said he wants nothing to do with Nick, wouldn't even have a drink with him, but also acknowledged what a great game Nick has.

This is only from people who absolutely despise the guy.

Somehow, you think you know best

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

3hrs 4m of fun n giggles with nick n rafa..

 

[Ricardo]

I'm honestly thrilled there are other people who pick up on these things around here.

Yes all these self-appointed experts held in high esteem in the professional circuit, mrzz, herios and BS, what great company to be in, who offer such great tennis insights that real proven tennis greats have failed to provide.

I am sure with your super unique tennis knowledge, Federer, Novak, and Rafa himself would beg for you to be on their team and in return compensate you with millions for your world beating insight, and actually they would ditch their current team in a hurry as they absolutely pale in comparison.

 

[Moxie]

Actually it’s the opposite, most are not big match players as they can get nervous and let the occasion get to them. It’s a rare quality to be able to show high level stuff when you need it, which is a big part of champions quality.

And how is this "champion's quality" working out for him so far? Rosil also played out of his head (and league) to beat Rafa some years back, and where is he? Stakhovsky played above his pay grade to beat Roger early a few years back. Did that make him a world-beater? Sometimes a player steps up and has an amazing day. It happens. It has happened to Nick more times than the rest, and yet, he really has nothing to show for it. He's sort of a repeatable one-hit-wonder, but he does nothing to capitalize on it. Soderling, to his credit, turned a huge upset into a career-changer and got as high as #4, I think. Who else of the ones who've produced the upset (to the big 3) on the big stage can be said to have made anything of it? LMK if you think of someone, but I can't.

 

[brokenshoelace]

something needs to add up here, if a guy has a great serve and everything else is pretty mediocre according to you, then he goes out and teed up wins against the big 3, and doesn't train or isn't focused like other players, then he has got to be TOP TALENT...….there is simply no other way. after reading your self-entitled post, you clearly know so little that I don't even think it's worth responding to. But i'll simplify it for you, you haven't played the guy, not even hit with him, nor have studied him with any professional knowledge which his opponents obviously do, who the fuck are you to hand out verdict?

As if Nadal doesn't know better, or FAA who absolutely despise him? not only the big three but the former greats also acknowledged how talented and how much ability Nick has. Truth is, all you see is from the TV and you think you know better, because you are the one being biased.

In fact Nadal simply doesn't like him and has no reason to praise him but has said Nick should be out there winning slams and playing for top ranking, I don't see him ever talking about another player like that, certainly not one with a good serve with nothing else to show for. FAA specifically said he wants nothing to do with Nick, wouldn't even have a drink with him, but also acknowledged what a great game Nick has.

This is only from people who absolutely despise the guy.

Somehow, you think you know best

What a strawman... Again, I ask, what about Nick that makes him so talented? Other than the above abomination shit-post filled with logical fallacies, explain to me, concretely, what about Nick's game, specifically, makes him more talented than Nadal. Does he have a better forehand? Backhand? Slice? Volleys? Touch? Return? Point construction? Soooo he's got a better...serve? That's it? So speaking of something needing to add up, how on earth does that add up in your book?

Also, according to your ridiculous logic, explain him failing to get past the 4th round in his last 16 attempts with all that talent.

I usually don't bother arguing with you but this is a new level of stupid.

 

[Moxie]

3hrs 4m of fun n giggles with nick n rafa..

Well, that's one way of looking at it. I, for one, was so ill with anxiety I couldn't eat my lunch. How'd you like the match, JLLB?

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

rafa bouncing around and yelling when he won the 3rd set tb of a 2nd rd match..

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

big kev v pella is on cc tomorrow..yikes. just because he reached one final. big farts all round or whatever..

 

[Moxie]

rafa bouncing around and yelling when he won the 3rd set tb of a 2nd rd match..

If Nick weren't such an under-achiever, this could surely have been a QF, anyway.

 

[JesuslookslikeBorg]

Well, that's one way of looking at it. I, for one, was so ill with anxiety I couldn't eat my lunch. How'd you like the match, JLLB?

i was hoping for a 5th set..drama past 8pm in the slowly declining light would ve been groovy.

 

[Moxie]

i was hoping for a 5th set..drama past 8pm in the slowly declining light would ve been groovy.

Sadist.

 

[mrzz]

Rosil also played out of his head (and league) to beat Rafa some years back

It is ROSOL!

ROSOL

ROSOL

ar, o, ess, o, el

R for REAL
O for OUTSTANDING
S for SPANISH
O for OVERACHIEVER
L for LIQUIDATOR

 

[Moxie]

It is ROSOL!

ROSOL

ROSOL

ar, o, ess, o, el

R for REAL
O for OUTSTANDING
S for SPANISH
O for OVERACHIEVER
L for LIQUIDATOR

Thanks for noticing! That was a nod to our old friend, Kieran, who never failed to tweak the tail with his own mini-dig.

 

[Moxie]

It is ROSOL!


R for REAL
O for OUTSTANDING
S for SPANISH
O for OVERACHIEVER
L for LIQUIDATOR

R for Robbed one big player - that's it
O for outside of the Top 100...for the past 2.5 years
S for Sliding endlessly after a big upset
O for Only has one big thing on his resume
L for Likely never to do anything similar again

BOOM!

 

[mrzz]

R for Robbed one big player - that's it
O for outside of the Top 100...for the past 2.5 years
S for Sliding endlessly after a big upset
O for Only has one big thing on his resume
L for Likely never to do anything similar again

BOOM!

It is just his dramatic pause.

 

[Ricardo]

What a strawman... Again, I ask, what about Nick that makes him so talented? Other than the above abomination shit-post filled with logical fallacies, explain to me, concretely, what about Nick's game, specifically, makes him more talented than Nadal. Does he have a better forehand? Backhand? Slice? Volleys? Touch? Return? Point construction? Soooo he's got a better...serve? That's it? So speaking of something needing to add up, how on earth does that add up in your book?

Also, according to your ridiculous logic, explain him failing to get past the 4th round in his last 16 attempts with all that talent.

I usually don't bother arguing with you but this is a new level of stupid.

if you pull your head out of your arse you'd see I have explained enough, that a simpleton would get it by now. All these real players, they don't go into, oh the serve this, the fh that, bla bla bla, but they give you overall picture of what they think. You are a low level wannabe, so you get into these superficial shallow bs and you think you know what others don't. Ill say again, though, he fails to get past average players because he is mentally deficient, no way its coincidence that he mostly put up admirable performance against the best players yet played mediocre against average players, who in turn get run over by the best players.

 

[Moxie]

It is just his dramatic pause.

Awesome response. Forgive me, though, if I won't be waiting for his resurgence with baited breath. Ain't happening.

 

[mrzz]

Awesome response. Forgive me, though, if I won't be waiting for his resurgence with baited breath. Ain't happening.

(little sane pause) Are you aware that Rosol lost on the last round of qualif. to Sugita (Nadal's R1 opponent)?