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Darth ..you are too hard on da Bucks ..they may still win this series..Da so called Kang is in trouble..As KS would say..Lance and especially Oladipko clowned da Kang and his worthless court....

Not hard on them at all. Boston has no talent left on the floor and they will still win this in 4 or 5 games. Bucks are soft as hell, they used to be considered a high effort, good defensive team but now they're the opposite. The team blows, need to blow some things up or they will continue to be 1st round roadkill.

As for Bron, he really had a terrible game no doubt. But if Indy doesn't win game 2 the Cavs probably my still win the series.
 

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What’s wrong with my homeboy Jabari Parker..he still looks to be recovering from his two recent ACL surgeries

They needed to trade his ass before the 2nd ACL when it became obvious he has no interest in even trying to play defense. Now they won't get anything for him.
 

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Not hard on them at all. Boston has no talent left on the floor and they will still win this in 4 or 5 games. Bucks are soft as hell, they used to be considered a high effort, good defensive team but now they're the opposite. The team blows, need to blow some things up or they will continue to be 1st round roadkill.

As for Bron, he really had a terrible game no doubt. But if Indy doesn't win game 2 the Cavs probably my still win the series.
If you think Tatum has “ no talent” please push me to the beginning of that line..JT has game.
 

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Not hard on them at all. Boston has no talent left on the floor and they will still win this in 4 or 5 games. Bucks are soft as hell, they used to be considered a high effort, good defensive team but now they're the opposite. The team blows, need to blow some things up or they will continue to be 1st round roadkill.

As for Bron, he really had a terrible game no doubt. But if Indy doesn't win game 2 the Cavs probably my still win the series.
Indy ain’t gonna win the series..I am not nuts..I don’t know why Tristen Kardashian isn’t playing,he was so overrated when he dominated the Dubs who didn’t have a reliable bigman in the middle when Draymond got baited by Lebron in game 4 of the 2016 finals
 

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If you think Tatum has “ no talent” please push me to the beginning of that line..JT has game.

I was exaggerating but overall with who they have hurt there is not a lot of talent left. Giannis himself is probably better than Horford, Tatum and Brown combined...
 

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Indy ain’t gonna win the series..I am not nuts..I don’t know why Tristen Kardashian isn’t playing,he was so overrated when he dominated the Dubs who didn’t have a reliable bigman in the middle when Draymond got baited by Lebron in game 4 of the 2016 finals

We will see, this year feels a little different for LeBron. He had to use a lot of energy just to make sure the Cavs got a top 4 seed and they were gunning hard for the 3 seed. I don't think LeBron will have another game as bad as yesterday but the Pacers can run circles around the rest of them.

TT got paid due to one good playoff run (2015). In 2016 he was OK but it was helped by Bogut going down. Now he is coming with too much baggage. It is the biggest example of how Bron is an awful GM. You know what I say of him; amazing coach, an even better player, and an atrocious GM.
 
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We will see, this year feels a little different for LeBron. He had to use a lot of energy just to make sure the Cavs got a top 4 seed and they were gunning hard for the 3 seed. I don't think LeBron will have another game as bad as yesterday but the Pacers can run circles around the rest of them.

TT got paid due to one good playoff run (2015). In 2016 he was OK but it was helped by Bogut going down. Now he is coming with too much baggage. It is the biggest example of how Bron is an awful GM. You know what I say of him; amazing coach, an even better player, and an atrocious GM.
just like Jordan's effort as a GM and team President ..awful
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I know you disagree DF, but the evidence just keeps on mounting. I'm not convinced KD is a better player than Curry. I know you say if you were starting a team from scratch you would pick Durant before Curry. I think the evidence suggests you should pick Curry before Durant. You say that Curry uniquely fits in with the Warriors system, but there's really no evidence to suggest that. It seems to me the spacing he creates would work on other teams as well. For KD to be an earlier pick than Curry he would at least have to have the leadership skills to carry a team. But he didn't do that at OKC, he's not doing it at Golden State. At what point does one just accept what your lying eyes tell you? Meanwhile would Curry be a lesser shooter on another team? I don't think so, he is what he is, and it's that innate ability not the system that would make him a monster threat and create the same spacing advantages he gives to Golden State. We need to accept the evidence it's right in front of us

What was Curry considered to be before Steve Kerr showed up? He was the best shooter in the league, widely recognized, even then. But he wasn't close to Durant's level as an overall player, and GSW's best achievement was an 8th seed or something. This isn't ancient history either, in the grand scheme of things.

Under Mark Jackson, the Warriors were dead last in the league in passes per possession. Under Kerr, with pretty much the same personnel (pre-Durant), they were first. Kerr revamped that team's offense in a way that brought the best out of Curry and Thompson. Of course, Steph improved, and hell, you can say he became an even better shooter, but this isn't purely in vacuum. This was the result of a system centered around ball movement and off the ball player movement that made it just impossible for teams guard the Warriors.

I'm fine with someone arguing Curry is better than Durant, but your insistence on "no evidence" for Curry being perfect for the Warriors system, and subsequently, influencing that narrative is pretty odd. What do you mean no evidence? The above is evidence. Further evidence is, you're arguing that based on how the team is performing without Curry. Don't you realize that a big reason is he's the engine that makes them tick, and without him, the whole offense isn't the same? Now, of course, that's a testament to how great he is, but simply stating he's a better player because his team is performing worse without him, while simultaneously stating that there's "no evidence" that he fits in the Warriors' system in a unique way is contradictory (and once again, further evidence is in what the Warriors were with Curry before Kerr. And I'd argue, further evidence lies in Durant clearly being their best player last season).

Also, and keep in mind, I'm not trying to be condescending here, but saying Curry would offer the same spacing to any system is an oversimplification of basketball. Yes, Curry is the best, most versatile shooter in the world. He'd clearly be the best shooter in the league on any team. But any team would not also have Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant and a bunch of role-playing shooters IN ADDITION to Curry, engineered by the Warriors' unique motion offense (and it surely is unique), further facilitated by a point-forward like Draymond. Put Curry on a stagnant offense like say, the Thunder's... you really think he'd hit as many threes and get the same types of looks when he has to constantly beat players off the dribble almost exclusively (which don't get me wrong, he's excellent at) and just run pick and rolls with Steven Adams all day?

Also, do you account for defense? Because in that case the scale clearly tips in Durant's favor. Curry is more important to the Warriors, that much, to me, is obvious. But a better player than Kevin Durant? Doubtful IMO. Also, while Curry's shooting is otherworldly, we've seen that if the offense as a whole isn't clicking, his style leaves very low margin for error and his production suffers. It happened in the 2015 playoffs, where the Warriors faced nothing but depleted teams and were very lucky Kyrie/Love went down, and especially, in the 2016 finals, where Curry was abysmal. Durant is a more versatile offensive players, who can get you buckets differently.

As far as Durant's leadership skills, I agree. Curry is clearly the leader of that team and by Durant's own admission, he's just not a leader (he literally said as much recently). But to say "for Durant to be a better player he needs to have the leadership skills to carry a team" basically means you're boiling down the debate to leadership. That's part of it. Not all of it. Draymond is more of a leader for that team than Durant ever will be. No one will argue he's a better player though. And I'm an OKC fan, meaning I'm sour on Durant as much as the next guy, but he's carried that team in the past, in key moments too. Didn't do it all the way, and that's definitely a knock on his legacy, and he was absolutely woeful in that crucial game 6 against GSW in 2016, but he's been a much better playoff performer than Curry ever was so far, unless you didn't watch Steph in 2015 and 2016. Last season was the best Steph played in the playoffs...except Durant played better.

PS: When has Steph carried the Warriors? Couldn't do it in the 2015 playoffs, failed miserably in 2016 despite an otherworldly MVP season, and nobody would seriously claim he "carried" them last season. Being instrumental to their success doesn't mean he's carrying the team. Carrying the team would be Westbrook in the regular season last year.
 
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Dwade came to play

Good to see him have perhaps one last throwback game. I do hope he calls it a career after this one because people might start forgetting how great a player he was. His injury problems came from his style of play, he washed up quicker than he should've due to injuries. And I worry about Giannis because of that, he plays a high-flying bruising game that is not kind on his knees and he is already having trouble.

I still remember Wade tearing up college kids at Marquette with his incredible athleticism. It was clear he'd be a big-game player and would have a good career but I didn't think he'd be one of the best shooting guards of all-time.
 
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Good to see him have perhaps one last throwback game. I do hope he calls it a career after this one because people might start forgetting how great a player he was. His injury problems came from his style of play, he washed up quicker than he should've due to injuries. And I worry about Giannis because of that, he plays a high-flying bruising game that is not kind on his knees and he is already having trouble.

I still remember Wade tearing up college kids at Marquette with his incredible athleticism. It was clear he'd be a big-game player and would have a good career but I didn't think he'd be one of the best shooting guards of all-time.
That’s why Lebron is a poor man’s Elgin Baylor..horrific GM..they should’ve kept Dwade
 

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That’s why Lebron is a poor man’s Elgin Baylor..horrific GM..they should’ve kept Dwade

Lol as a GM, LeBron has no peers in how bad he is. But I can't blame the Cavs for blowing up the team at the trade deadline. Their problem may be youth and the Pacers are no joke. Of all the teams in the East they've gotten blasted by LeBron the worst aside from maybe your Bulls. If Cleveland survives this series I think they win the East, you get the young pups some experience and you have the Bron Bot I don't see Team Canada, Boston, or Philly stopping him.
 

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When Klay and KD are shooting like this,da Dubs are gonna keep Step on the sidelines as a bench cheerleader.. President Obama said it best, when “ Klay is on, he has the prettiest jumper in the world including Step’s jumper.”
 

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Lol as a GM, LeBron has no peers in how bad he is. But I can't blame the Cavs for blowing up the team at the trade deadline. Their problem may be youth and the Pacers are no joke. Of all the teams in the East they've gotten blasted by LeBron the worst aside from maybe your Bulls. If Cleveland survives this series I think they win the East, you get the young pups some experience and you have the Bron Bot I don't see Team Canada, Boston, or Philly stopping him.
“My Bulls “ currently constructed is the dumbest organization in all sports..just look at the Timberwolves which I have dubbed da Minnesota Bulls ...they have the over 6 Bulls .besides overcoaching Tibs, Drose, Crawford, Butler, TGibson, Aaron Brooks, Jeff Teague was almost a Bull but his brother was.
 

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I knew the Spurs would be no challenge even without Curry. Pops is still the best and a year like this proves it as he is working with guys who have been around since the Civil War. But they were never going to beat anyone out West in a series.
 

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I knew the Spurs would be no challenge even without Curry. Pops is still the best and a year like this proves it as he is working with guys who have been around since the Civil War. But they were never going to beat anyone out West in a series.

Spurs have won one -- yes ONE -- road game since February. They made it to the playoffs by pretty much only beating the bad teams, but props to them, as they're really not good this season. The Kawhi fiasco is another story altogether.