2017 Wimbledon Final: Venus Williams vs. Garbine Muguruza

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Not really a fan of either, but hey...

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The match starts tomorrow at 2pm English Summer Time. We'll be opening the live chat a few minutes before.
 
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Generally, Garbage is taken out once a week. But, now it has accumulated for two weeks. Must do the job at least this weekend.

And garbage was talking to the other garbage, they love each other, nothing new around....pity
 

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And garbage was talking to the other garbage, they love each other, nothing new around....pity

Don't take these things personally. It is just some friendly garbage. :smooch:

Just to cheer you up, let me post an article by a respected analyst (craig O'Shannessy) who thinks Garbage will rule the day:

CRAIG O’SHANNESSY: The numbers favour Muguruza

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http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2017-07-14/wimblewars_venus_or_muguruza.html#
Garbiñe Muguruza is the favourite, for me, in the Wimbledon ladies’ final. She has a distinct advantage in three critical areas that will see her win her first title at the All England club on Saturday afternoon.

Backhand
Garbiñe may never have hit her backhand as well as she is now. She has struck 51 backhand winners leading up to the final, which is almost double her opponent's. It’s important to note that most baseline points are constructed initially backhand to backhand through the ad court. Muguruza will be sitting on her favourite shot, hovering around the baseline to attack anything hit just a little short.

When she made the final here in 2015 against Serena, she had committed 151 backhand errors leading into the final. This year that number is only 103. Her backhand will prove to be the most dominant shot in baseline exchanges.

Approach & volley
Muguruza’s deep, penetrating backhand is producing a lot of short balls to attack. She has gone to the net 129 times so far – a much higher figure than Venus’s 84. The Spaniard is winning a very high percentage (71) of her net points (92 of 129), which is significantly more than her 51 per cent figure from the baseline (215 of 423). Muguruza will own the back of the court with her backhand, and the front of the court with her decisive volleys.

Holding Serve
Muguruza is No.1 for the tournament in holding serve, at 93 per cent (54 of 58). Venus is not far away at 91 per cent (59 of 65) but, once again, the small advantage falls the way of the younger player. Muguruza is also ranked No.1 for the tournament in the critical area of break points saved, at 82 per cent (18 of 22). Venus is tied for sixth at 75 per cent (18 of 24). Muguruza was not broken in her quarter-final victory against Svetlana Kuznetsova, or her semi-final demolition of Magdalena Rybarikova.

A point here and a point there is all that separates these two ladies. Garbiñe is coming into the final with superior numbers: while serving; from the back of the court; and also at the net. She is the complete package this year, and is ticking all the boxes to become the Ladies’ Singles Champion for 2017.
 

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Don't take these things personally. It is just some friendly garbage. :smooch:

Just to cheer you up, let me post an article by a respected analyst (craig O'Shannessy) who thinks Garbage will rule the day:

CRAIG O’SHANNESSY: The numbers favour Muguruza

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Garbiñe Muguruza is the favourite, for me, in the Wimbledon ladies’ final. She has a distinct advantage in three critical areas that will see her win her first title at the All England club on Saturday afternoon.

Backhand
Garbiñe may never have hit her backhand as well as she is now. She has struck 51 backhand winners leading up to the final, which is almost double her opponent's. It’s important to note that most baseline points are constructed initially backhand to backhand through the ad court. Muguruza will be sitting on her favourite shot, hovering around the baseline to attack anything hit just a little short.

When she made the final here in 2015 against Serena, she had committed 151 backhand errors leading into the final. This year that number is only 103. Her backhand will prove to be the most dominant shot in baseline exchanges.

Approach & volley
Muguruza’s deep, penetrating backhand is producing a lot of short balls to attack. She has gone to the net 129 times so far – a much higher figure than Venus’s 84. The Spaniard is winning a very high percentage (71) of her net points (92 of 129), which is significantly more than her 51 per cent figure from the baseline (215 of 423). Muguruza will own the back of the court with her backhand, and the front of the court with her decisive volleys.

Holding Serve
Muguruza is No.1 for the tournament in holding serve, at 93 per cent (54 of 58). Venus is not far away at 91 per cent (59 of 65) but, once again, the small advantage falls the way of the younger player. Muguruza is also ranked No.1 for the tournament in the critical area of break points saved, at 82 per cent (18 of 22). Venus is tied for sixth at 75 per cent (18 of 24). Muguruza was not broken in her quarter-final victory against Svetlana Kuznetsova, or her semi-final demolition of Magdalena Rybarikova.

A point here and a point there is all that separates these two ladies. Garbiñe is coming into the final with superior numbers: while serving; from the back of the court; and also at the net. She is the complete package this year, and is ticking all the boxes to become the Ladies’ Singles Champion for 2017.

Even if you don't have any simphaty to a player and more if she is a woman I don't think it's correct to insult her using that dirty word not even 'friendly' . To your knowledge I know things about Venus and of course I'm not talking about that unfortunately accident but other things of his personal life which I've never say one word because I don't think is necessary to say it in a blog (I lived in Palm Beach for 10 years). Prudence is something very precious and even that I don't like her I never use any insult against her and not even jocking which it would be to have a very bad taste
Thanks anyway for that article
 

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Even if you don't have any simphaty to a player and more if she is a woman I don't think it's correct to insult her using that dirty word not even 'friendly' . To your knowledge I know things about Venus and of course I'm not talking about that unfortunately accident but other things of his personal life which I've never say one word because I don't think is necessary to say it in a blog (I lived in Palm Beach for 10 years). Prudence is something very precious and even that I don't like her I never use any insult against her and not even jocking which it would be to have a very bad taste
Thanks anyway for that article

Ooh, ya. You got dirt on Vee. Why don't you send an email to Trump Jr?

I did not even come up with that nick name for Mugu. Somebody else did (perhaps, "tossip"). I just latched on to it. We say lot of silly things like Dog for Dolgopolov and Bird for Berdych etc. It is one of those things. It does not mean I think Muguraza is Garbage either in tennis or in real life.

Anyway, I don't care too much for WTA and so I don't have Dolgopolov in this fight.
 

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Don't take these things personally. It is just some friendly garbage. :smooch:

Just to cheer you up, let me post an article by a respected analyst (craig O'Shannessy) who thinks Garbage will rule the day:

CRAIG O’SHANNESSY: The numbers favour Muguruza

LS601_SF_1499955847_1920x1080.jpg

Garbiñe Muguruza is the favourite, for me, in the Wimbledon ladies’ final. She has a distinct advantage in three critical areas that will see her win her first title at the All England club on Saturday afternoon.

Backhand
Garbiñe may never have hit her backhand as well as she is now. She has struck 51 backhand winners leading up to the final, which is almost double her opponent's. It’s important to note that most baseline points are constructed initially backhand to backhand through the ad court. Muguruza will be sitting on her favourite shot, hovering around the baseline to attack anything hit just a little short.

When she made the final here in 2015 against Serena, she had committed 151 backhand errors leading into the final. This year that number is only 103. Her backhand will prove to be the most dominant shot in baseline exchanges.

Approach & volley
Muguruza’s deep, penetrating backhand is producing a lot of short balls to attack. She has gone to the net 129 times so far – a much higher figure than Venus’s 84. The Spaniard is winning a very high percentage (71) of her net points (92 of 129), which is significantly more than her 51 per cent figure from the baseline (215 of 423). Muguruza will own the back of the court with her backhand, and the front of the court with her decisive volleys.

Holding Serve
Muguruza is No.1 for the tournament in holding serve, at 93 per cent (54 of 58). Venus is not far away at 91 per cent (59 of 65) but, once again, the small advantage falls the way of the younger player. Muguruza is also ranked No.1 for the tournament in the critical area of break points saved, at 82 per cent (18 of 22). Venus is tied for sixth at 75 per cent (18 of 24). Muguruza was not broken in her quarter-final victory against Svetlana Kuznetsova, or her semi-final demolition of Magdalena Rybarikova.

A point here and a point there is all that separates these two ladies. Garbiñe is coming into the final with superior numbers: while serving; from the back of the court; and also at the net. She is the complete package this year, and is ticking all the boxes to become the Ladies’ Singles Champion for 2017.
this guy has never given an accurate review about the sisters and is always wrong.I remember his review of Serena vs pova at this event...he really was off the mark.I think he has a bias against the sisters and at one time one of the commentators asked him about his wrong analysis.The match is not played on paper it will be played on that patch of grass and may the best win..
 

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It's raining right now in London. They will wait another 20 minutes before deciding whether to open the roof or not.
 

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Roof or no roof ?

Chris Evert, Sue Barker and Tracy Austin. Evert is doing all the talking.
 

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Closed roof can only favour Venus imo. No elements affecting play will make things easier for her as she has quite a high ball toss when serving.
 

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With the roof closed I will say it should be similar to the Konta match. Close, but Venus in 2 tight sets.
 

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Vamos Garbiñe, gime me a happiness of this 'decaf' tourmament!!!!!:clap:
 

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